What next???

stuno1 · 17-06-2007, 18:27

Have a VRS re-mapped with revo and love the result of this but was skinned by a Focus ST the other day and felt a little small.

I know i cant expect to generate that kind of performance from my VRS but wandered what other engine mods i could do to improve BHP?

Looked in to changing car for a Mazda 3 MPS with Aero kit but fuel, insurance bla bla...

Cheers

Nemeliza · 17-06-2007, 18:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuno1

Have a VRS re-mapped with revo and love the result of this but was skinned by a Focus ST the other day and felt a little small.

LOL ... What did you learn?

Suppose you got to try.

ScoobyChris · 17-06-2007, 19:04

You'll be looking at bigger turbo, bigger injectors, FMIC to get closer, but it might just be cheaper to buy the ST

Chris

stuno1 · 17-06-2007, 19:13

I learnt that i can smoke a lot, get a pretty decent top speed, and i learnt how to blush

St makes a good sound though!

Chris GB · 17-06-2007, 19:41

Focus ST has around 150bhp / tonne, Remapped Fabia vRS has about 140bhp / tonne. The difference is not huge in real world driving, but significant higher up the speed range where aerodynamic drag favours the more powerful car. However, not all Focus STs are standard. There are cars out there on remaps up to around 280bhp and a few hotter than that.

Chris

adamC · 17-06-2007, 20:11

well at least you gave it a go lol brave but you were never gonna win that one.

ultra_joel88 · 17-06-2007, 21:00

what sort of cars can the vRS take in standard guise?

zetec s, saxo vtr, astra 1.8, corsa 1.8 etc?

Decron · 17-06-2007, 21:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultra_joel88

what sort of cars can the vRS take in standard guise?

zetec s, saxo vtr, astra 1.8, corsa 1.8 etc?

Have a search for all the other threads like this, they are all the same follwing a pattern similar to this;

1. There will be Fabia owners that have tales of trouncing Ferraris, Porsches

2. This will be closely followed by a load of Octavia owners who will try to make the Fabia sound like a toy and pour scorn on it.

3. Welshy will then come along and tell you how much the depreciation has increase, how the bubble has burst and how you should have bought a BMW

4. This whole mix up will be interlaced with a few sensible posts but nothing really interesting to answer the question.

You want some advice? Dont talk about it, do it. Buy one, do a track day and find out for yourself because then it doesn't matter about any of the above

**VRStu** · 17-06-2007, 21:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decron

Have a search for all the other threads like this, they are all the same follwing a pattern similar to this;

1. There will be Fabia owners that have tales of trouncing Ferraris, Porsches

2. This will be closely followed by a load of Octavia owners who will try to make the Fabia sound like a toy and pour scorn on it.

3. Welshy will then come along and tell you how much the depreciation has increase, how the bubble has burst and how you should have bought a BMW

4. This whole mix up will be interlaced with a few sensible posts but nothing really interesting to answer the question.

You want some advice? Dont talk about it, do it. Buy one, do a track day and find out for yourself because then it doesn't matter about any of the above

Classic!!

ScoobyChris · 17-06-2007, 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decron

3. Welshy will then come along and tell you how much the depreciation has increase, how the bubble has burst and how you should have bought a BMW

You couldn't make this stuff up!

Chris

ultra_joel88 · 17-06-2007, 21:57

LOL I understand we get the same rubbish over on the Corsa forum but 10x worse people telling of how they have beaten CTR's in 1.4 SRi's and Saxo VTR's in 1.0 beasts.

Decron · 17-06-2007, 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultra_joel88

LOL I understand we get the same rubbish over on the Corsa forum but 10x worse people telling of how they have beaten CTR's in 1.4 SRi's and Saxo VTR's in 1.0 beasts.

A 2.0 Fabia would take them all

oilburninnut · 17-06-2007, 22:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultra_joel88

what sort of cars can the vRS take in standard guise?

zetec s, saxo vtr, astra 1.8, corsa 1.8 etc?

in all honesty the best mod you can do is learn to drive it properly and understand its limitations,this will stand you in good stead as you can

1. choose your moments to suit you

2.transfer what you learn to any other vehicle you go on to drive

3. have a lot of fun learning

4. take them all like a king.

Chrispy · 17-06-2007, 22:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScoobyChris

You couldn't make this stuff up!

Chris

That part from Decron just had me pi55ing myself laughing.

Chrispy · 17-06-2007, 22:37

Back on topic, I've not really known many cars that have properly had a go and that I've had to annihilate, but 2 that I know for certain that I have beaten on the very same motorway slip road were a Ford Puma (non racing) with an insane woman behind the wheel that was thrashing the thing trying to undertake me where there was no room to do so (I was overtaking at the time), and also a Mini Cooper (not S) that tried the exact same thing on the exact same stretch of road with some lad behind the wheel and was also beaten.

The Puma was not far behind at all (and it was a warm day so I was down on boost) but I had to push it hard to keep ahead.
The mini was a different story.....I left him quite easily shortly before he overtook me as I sat at 70 on the m'way with a grin on my face.

Other cars that have had a pop were an Audi A3 2.0 TDi, and there was sod all in it.....I think I had the edge but so marginally that it didn't inspire confidence that I could have won by a decent margin.

skudmissile · 17-06-2007, 23:57

was it a mk2 focus st or a mk1, the mk1 shouldnt be a problem but i think you wouldnt have chance against the volvo engined mk2.

Chrispy · 18-06-2007, 07:23

Agreed. The MKII's are awesome things with a T5 engine.
I'm still undecided about the styling though. The 3 door looks better than the 5 but still.....hmmm.....

PEMBO · 18-06-2007, 11:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decron

Have a search for all the other threads like this, they are all the same follwing a pattern similar to this;

1. There will be Fabia owners that have tales of trouncing Ferraris, Porsches

2. This will be closely followed by a load of Octavia owners who will try to make the Fabia sound like a toy and pour scorn on it.

3. Welshy will then come along and tell you how much the depreciation has increase, how the bubble has burst and how you should have bought a BMW

4. This whole mix up will be interlaced with a few sensible posts but nothing really interesting to answer the question.

You want some advice? Dont talk about it, do it. Buy one, do a track day and find out for yourself because then it doesn't matter about any of the above

Classic

skudmissile · 18-06-2007, 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrispy

Agreed. The MKII's are awesome things with a T5 engine.
I'm still undecided about the styling though. The 3 door looks better than the 5 but still.....hmmm.....

3 dr focus st in orange

very cool car!

kebaros · 18-06-2007, 12:35

Get a motorbike then you can take pretty much everything although the rozzers round here have added a ZZR1400 (good for 200mph) to their fleet of R1's Octi VRS (Undercover and Livered) and Mitsubishi Lancers.

So a copper will always take you no matter what you drive.

17-06-2007, 18:27	#1
stuno1 MPStu Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Uxbridge, Middlesex Posts: 444 Thanks: 0 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	What next??? Have a VRS re-mapped with revo and love the result of this but was skinned by a Focus ST the other day and felt a little small. I know i cant expect to generate that kind of performance from my VRS but wandered what other engine mods i could do to improve BHP? Looked in to changing car for a Mazda 3 MPS with Aero kit but fuel, insurance bla bla... Cheers __________________ Mazda 3 MPS Aero with 18" Kie force ten wheels (Gunmetal grey), body coloured badges, red calipers, custom long life exhaust (Catback with high flow sports cat), smoked side repeators.

17-06-2007, 19:04	#3
ScoobyChris Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Andover Posts: 18,099 Thanks: 15 Thanked 323 Times in 281 Posts	Re: What next??? You'll be looking at bigger turbo, bigger injectors, FMIC to get closer, but it might just be cheaper to buy the ST Chris __________________ Holding up the traffic in a little Italian..........

17-06-2007, 19:13	#4
stuno1 MPStu Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Uxbridge, Middlesex Posts: 444 Thanks: 0 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: What next??? I learnt that i can smoke a lot, get a pretty decent top speed, and i learnt how to blush St makes a good sound though! __________________ Mazda 3 MPS Aero with 18" Kie force ten wheels (Gunmetal grey), body coloured badges, red calipers, custom long life exhaust (Catback with high flow sports cat), smoked side repeators.

17-06-2007, 19:41	#5
Chris GB Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: East UK Posts: 2,506 Thanks: 16 Thanked 36 Times in 20 Posts	Re: What next??? Focus ST has around 150bhp / tonne, Remapped Fabia vRS has about 140bhp / tonne. The difference is not huge in real world driving, but significant higher up the speed range where aerodynamic drag favours the more powerful car. However, not all Focus STs are standard. There are cars out there on remaps up to around 280bhp and a few hotter than that. Chris __________________ Red Fabia vRS. Now without dual controls. Chilli Red / white Mini Cooper Diesel with dual controls. Silver 53 MR2. Mods: PPE 4>1 manifold \| PPE Mangnaflow high flow cat \| Blueflame catback exhaust \| Pikey inlet mod \| 3.0 Racing Chassis stiffening brace kit \| BC Racing fully adjustable coilovers Details here My MR2 Page

17-06-2007, 20:11	#6
adamC Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: close but not close enough Posts: 194 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: What next??? well at least you gave it a go lol brave but you were never gonna win that one. __________________ 08 Reg BMW 120d se Dynamic 177 hp 350 nm trqe Second car (I gave the wife so i could keep it) Black magic VRS, 17 inch octy mk1 spiders, pd160 + K&N filter.

17-06-2007, 21:00	#7
ultra_joel88 Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brecon/ Cardiff Posts: 2,037 Thanks: 19 Thanked 70 Times in 68 Posts	Re: What next??? what sort of cars can the vRS take in standard guise? zetec s, saxo vtr, astra 1.8, corsa 1.8 etc?

17-06-2007, 21:57	#11
ultra_joel88 Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brecon/ Cardiff Posts: 2,037 Thanks: 19 Thanked 70 Times in 68 Posts	Re: What next??? LOL I understand we get the same rubbish over on the Corsa forum but 10x worse people telling of how they have beaten CTR's in 1.4 SRi's and Saxo VTR's in 1.0 beasts.

17-06-2007, 22:37	#15
Chrispy I said HOT DAMN Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Normanton, West Yorks Posts: 1,712 Thanks: 28 Thanked 65 Times in 54 Posts	Re: What next??? Back on topic, I've not really known many cars that have properly had a go and that I've had to annihilate, but 2 that I know for certain that I have beaten on the very same motorway slip road were a Ford Puma (non racing) with an insane woman behind the wheel that was thrashing the thing trying to undertake me where there was no room to do so (I was overtaking at the time), and also a Mini Cooper (not S) that tried the exact same thing on the exact same stretch of road with some lad behind the wheel and was also beaten. The Puma was not far behind at all (and it was a warm day so I was down on boost) but I had to push it hard to keep ahead. The mini was a different story.....I left him quite easily shortly before he overtook me as I sat at 70 on the m'way with a grin on my face. Other cars that have had a pop were an Audi A3 2.0 TDi, and there was sod all in it.....I think I had the edge but so marginally that it didn't inspire confidence that I could have won by a decent margin. __________________ Silver '04 Fabia vRS. Jabba Custom Remap, Seat Surgeons Leather interior, Whiteline RARB, Cupra Console Bushes

17-06-2007, 23:57	#16
skudmissile Moving Stables Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,112 Thanks: 401 Thanked 178 Times in 160 Posts	Re: What next??? was it a mk2 focus st or a mk1, the mk1 shouldnt be a problem but i think you wouldnt have chance against the volvo engined mk2. __________________ New ??????? haha I need slippers and a pipe with this one. but it might be a real sleeper Gone..... 226bhp + 382lbft Fabia vRS + Stage 2 hybrid now on lowered suspension goes like a missile

18-06-2007, 07:23	#17
Chrispy I said HOT DAMN Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Normanton, West Yorks Posts: 1,712 Thanks: 28 Thanked 65 Times in 54 Posts	Re: What next??? Agreed. The MKII's are awesome things with a T5 engine. I'm still undecided about the styling though. The 3 door looks better than the 5 but still.....hmmm..... __________________ Silver '04 Fabia vRS. Jabba Custom Remap, Seat Surgeons Leather interior, Whiteline RARB, Cupra Console Bushes

18-06-2007, 12:35	#20
kebaros Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nr Cockermouth, Cumbria Posts: 146 Thanks: 3 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Re: What next??? Get a motorbike then you can take pretty much everything although the rozzers round here have added a ZZR1400 (good for 200mph) to their fleet of R1's Octi VRS (Undercover and Livered) and Mitsubishi Lancers. So a copper will always take you no matter what you drive.

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