Felicia 1.6 MPi keeps cutting out

conner2jaeger · 19-04-2008, 12:13

An owner of 2 well used and appreciated cars, but one has been in hospital for a number of days and the Doctor is scrathing his head.
Problem being that my 1987 Felicia Est (102,000 miles) which was running sweetly has now started to cut out and stop for some unknown reason. The engine will run for a short legth of time, then just cuts out. The car has now had a full diagnostic check at the garage but the ECU readout shows no error codes at all. It has been suggested that the stopping is caused by a blocked fuel filter, repalced - no difference and a blocked catalytic converter - checked, no problem there.
Has anybody experienced such and knows solution/solutions, any suggestions it would be much appreciated to enable to me to get the old girl back.

Bigw2069 · 19-04-2008, 13:00

Moved from Vagcom section as you have ruled diagnostics out, hopefully you'll get more exposure in here.

youngsyd · 19-04-2008, 13:17

Is that 97 you mean?
What engine size also?

conner2jaeger · 19-04-2008, 13:24

Steve,
R reg and 16. MPi

youngsyd · 19-04-2008, 13:32

Throttle Body possibly....

250quid new...!

If not then Lambda probes are common on the AEE engine

TeflonTom · 19-04-2008, 14:16

how long does it run for before it cuts out?? a few seconds??? if so i would suggest an immobilizer fault...

failing that, try changing the fuel pump relay

youngsyd · 19-04-2008, 14:26

Could be a whole host of things especially if it hasnt brought anything up on the diagnostic system.

conner2jaeger · 19-04-2008, 15:38

Tom & Steve,
Thanks for your replies,
The car runs sweetly for possibly a couple of miles and then just cuts out as if no fuel or spark, but there is (checked RAC) or when running stationary it may go for several minutes before cutting out but will start shortly after.

TeflonTom · 19-04-2008, 16:12

yeah, i would change the fuel pump relay then

harryhill · 19-04-2008, 20:35

rigsby · 19-04-2008, 22:18

My prognosis is a failing coil pack

KenONeill · 21-04-2008, 12:55

Fuel relay or coil pack; which is cheaper?

TeflonTom · 21-04-2008, 19:04

1.6 doesn't have a coilpack, it has a distributor with a single ended coil like the good old days

daverapid · 21-04-2008, 21:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeflonTom

1.6 doesn't have a coilpack, it has a distributor with a single ended coil like the good old days

Quite common for the hall sender in the dizzy to fail intermittently IIRC.

Lummox · 21-04-2008, 21:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by daverapid

Quite common for the hall sender in the dizzy to fail intermittently IIRC.

That would be my guess also.

TeflonTom · 21-04-2008, 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by daverapid

Quite common for the hall sender in the dizzy to fail intermittently IIRC.

yeah, the o ring goes funny and allows oil to seep out from the end of the camshaft

rigsby · 21-04-2008, 22:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeflonTom

1.6 doesn't have a coilpack, it has a distributor with a single ended coil like the good old days

oh yes it does ----part number 6NO905104
All petrol skodas since the favorit have coil packs, wether the spark is distributed by a distributor or a multipoint unit like the 1.3 mpi. Old coils went out with the estelles

TeflonTom · 21-04-2008, 23:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by rigsby

oh yes it does ----part number 6NO905104
All petrol skodas since the favorit have coil packs, wether the spark is distributed by a distributor or a multipoint unit like the 1.3 mpi. Old coils went out with the estelles

erm yeah

KenONeill · 22-04-2008, 08:50

I wasn't thinking in terms of Octy style 1 coil per cylinder coil packs; I was thinking in terms of an arangement like my ZX, which used 2 double ended coils, firing the plugs for TDC on compression to power and exhaust to intake strokes, so plucs firing once per rev, rather than each other rev. Does that make more sense now?

conner2jaeger · 26-04-2008, 11:20

Thanks to all of you, you who have been so helpful with your suggestions
I have informed the 'Doctor' of your lines of thoughts and he hopefully has already ordered a new Hall sensor to try first. I will keep you informed of progress.

19-04-2008, 12:13	#1
conner2jaeger Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5	Felicia 1.6 MPi keeps cutting out An owner of 2 well used and appreciated cars, but one has been in hospital for a number of days and the Doctor is scrathing his head. Problem being that my 1987 Felicia Est (102,000 miles) which was running sweetly has now started to cut out and stop for some unknown reason. The engine will run for a short legth of time, then just cuts out. The car has now had a full diagnostic check at the garage but the ECU readout shows no error codes at all. It has been suggested that the stopping is caused by a blocked fuel filter, repalced - no difference and a blocked catalytic converter - checked, no problem there. Has anybody experienced such and knows solution/solutions, any suggestions it would be much appreciated to enable to me to get the old girl back. Last edited by conner2jaeger; 20-04-2008 at 09:19. Reason: wrong title

19-04-2008, 13:00	#2
Bigw2069 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Rosyth,Scotland Posts: 4,755	Re: conner2jaeger Moved from Vagcom section as you have ruled diagnostics out, hopefully you'll get more exposure in here. __________________

19-04-2008, 13:17	#3
youngsyd Revo'd up!! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lincolnshire Yellow Belly Posts: 2,061	Re: conner2jaeger Is that 97 you mean? What engine size also? __________________ PD160, Pipercross Flat Panel, MOMO Strut Brace, 17" Spiders, REVO, LCR Splitter, S2000 Whip....etc etc!

19-04-2008, 13:24	#4
conner2jaeger Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5	Re: conner2jaeger Steve, R reg and 16. MPi

19-04-2008, 13:32	#5
youngsyd Revo'd up!! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lincolnshire Yellow Belly Posts: 2,061	Re: conner2jaeger Throttle Body possibly.... 250quid new...! If not then Lambda probes are common on the AEE engine __________________ PD160, Pipercross Flat Panel, MOMO Strut Brace, 17" Spiders, REVO, LCR Splitter, S2000 Whip....etc etc!

19-04-2008, 14:26	#7
youngsyd Revo'd up!! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lincolnshire Yellow Belly Posts: 2,061	Re: conner2jaeger Could be a whole host of things especially if it hasnt brought anything up on the diagnostic system. __________________ PD160, Pipercross Flat Panel, MOMO Strut Brace, 17" Spiders, REVO, LCR Splitter, S2000 Whip....etc etc!

19-04-2008, 15:38	#8
conner2jaeger Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5	Re: conner2jaeger Tom & Steve, Thanks for your replies, The car runs sweetly for possibly a couple of miles and then just cuts out as if no fuel or spark, but there is (checked RAC) or when running stationary it may go for several minutes before cutting out but will start shortly after.

19-04-2008, 20:35	#10
harryhill Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Newcastle upon tyne Posts: 358	Re: conner2jaeger __________________ Skoda 1.3GLi 1998 now reading LXi on the back due to tailgate swop. Bought for £30 and still going strong

19-04-2008, 22:18	#11
rigsby Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: DONCASTER Posts: 952	Re: conner2jaeger My prognosis is a failing coil pack __________________ I DONT WANT TO DIE A GROWN UP!!!

21-04-2008, 12:55	#12
KenONeill Briskodian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Normally somewhere in Scotland! Posts: 8,610	Re: Felicia 1.6 MPi keeps cutting out Fuel relay or coil pack; which is cheaper?

22-04-2008, 08:50	#19
KenONeill Briskodian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Normally somewhere in Scotland! Posts: 8,610	Re: Felicia 1.6 MPi keeps cutting out I wasn't thinking in terms of Octy style 1 coil per cylinder coil packs; I was thinking in terms of an arangement like my ZX, which used 2 double ended coils, firing the plugs for TDC on compression to power and exhaust to intake strokes, so plucs firing once per rev, rather than each other rev. Does that make more sense now?

26-04-2008, 11:20	#20
conner2jaeger Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5	Re: Felicia 1.6 MPi keeps cutting out Thanks to all of you, you who have been so helpful with your suggestions I have informed the 'Doctor' of your lines of thoughts and he hopefully has already ordered a new Hall sensor to try first. I will keep you informed of progress.

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