nice one for ya.

pinkskud · 25-09-2007, 17:36

New Page 1

and on that note, i'm guna make a rear strut brace (cuz i can) but need some design help.
should i link the two strut housing turrets, or the tops of the suspension struts them selfs???

http://www.strutbracer.co.uk/images/big/036AL74.jpg

or

http://www.strutbracer.co.uk/images/big/ompma1612.jpg

pinkskud · 28-09-2007, 18:35

any ideas then?????.

rigsby · 28-09-2007, 21:09

have seen one done before to a fav on another forum. a bloke called ken made one for his . i think he mounted it to the strut housing

pinkskud · 28-09-2007, 21:45

nice one mate. think i might weld one in.

TeflonTom · 29-09-2007, 01:24

ed, dont join the tops of the dampers together mate....

i'm not trying to sound picky, but unless the area it's mounted on if reinforced it will be purely cosmetic

pinkskud · 29-09-2007, 09:20

thanks tom. working on a removable brace at the mow. so i can take it out, leaving the mounting in plates there. so i can put me bikes in, and then bolt it back in.

that way no tw@ **** a$$ hole can nick me bikes.

anewman · 29-09-2007, 14:30

Sounds like a great anti-theft measure even if it doesn't imrove handling much.

bobob · 29-09-2007, 18:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkskud

thanks tom. working on a removable brace at the mow. so i can take it out, leaving the mounting in plates there. so i can put me bikes in, and then bolt it back in.

that way no tw@ **** a$$ hole can nick me bikes.

Can't the tw@ **** a$$ holes also remove your brace and nick your bikes

pinkskud · 29-09-2007, 19:34

only of they have a tourqus set to hand.
its the only use i can think of for the dam things.

harryhill · 30-09-2007, 20:03

don't wanna pour water onto the fire but looking at the rear suspension set up underneath and that whacking great trailing arm bar would joining the top make a difference?

I am thinking this out in my head and to my knowledge the trailing arm is linked to the suspension of both rear wheels therefore if one wheel hits a huge pothole this will to some degree affect the other which will explain its rear wobble on cornering.

Unless each wheel was made more independant on what the other is doing then i cannot see what a strut brace would achieve if you know what i mean!!

You may know something i don't though and if there is a benefit let me know!!

TeflonTom · 30-09-2007, 20:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by harryhill

would joining the top make a difference?

nope hth

KenONeill · 01-10-2007, 13:00

Unless it's a genuinely rigid bar between the turret tops, no strut brace will make any difference. With bolts both ends, it's totally cosmetic.

pinkskud · 01-10-2007, 22:36

this i have thought about. i wasnt planning to have one bolt per end like most, but was thinking more like three, so as the bar cant pivot.

jeffers · 02-10-2007, 01:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkskud

only of they have a tourqus set to hand.
its the only use i can think of for the dam things.

couldnt you use a sort of like alloy's locking nut sort of thing to secure it in?

KenONeill · 02-10-2007, 08:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkskud

this i have thought about. i wasnt planning to have one bolt per end like most, but was thinking more like three, so as the bar cant pivot.

Well, that makes sense regarding hinging effects, but I still think that the brace is probably cosmetic. The alternative is that the bolts have to handle a significant sheer loading after all.

pinkskud · 02-10-2007, 17:27

the idea is just to see what effect it has. there is flex in the body, im just trying to find the best place and way to counter it.

KenONeill · 03-10-2007, 08:45

How do you fancy a full FIA roll-cage, or welding up the rear passenger doors? I'm being serious here; most shell flex comes from the passenger area and those big holes called door gaps, not from the suspension. That's why most race and rally classes use a 2 or 3 door shell if available; the much shorter door gaps give an intrinsically stiffer shell.

pinkskud · 03-10-2007, 17:44

your right the holes in the back are the main twist points.
but the aim of this project is to make a felicia VRS, a factory sport if you will.
so i'm trying to keep the car looking as close to something that could have come out the factory as possible. the car must function as normal!

so, i'm trying to hide anything that looks like an after market bolt on.

i do have some plans for bracing to go under the car, but haven't had time to draw them up yet.

thanks for your input mind, is always good to bounce ideas about.

anewman · 09-10-2007, 07:07

Is this any good?

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pinkskud · 09-10-2007, 22:51

nice one, theres a point to start from. now to make it look a bit more "factory"

i'm on that forum somewhere by the way. but briskys better.

25-09-2007, 17:36	#1
pinkskud not a bird!!! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: pixi said not to fill my box Posts: 2,134 Thanks: 1 Thanked 77 Times in 73 Posts	nice one for ya. New Page 1 and on that note, i'm guna make a rear strut brace (cuz i can) but need some design help. should i link the two strut housing turrets, or the tops of the suspension struts them selfs??? http://www.strutbracer.co.uk/images/big/036AL74.jpg or http://www.strutbracer.co.uk/images/big/ompma1612.jpg __________________ also found on http://skodafelicia.freeforums.org/index.php Last edited by pinkskud; 25-09-2007 at 17:43.

28-09-2007, 18:35	#2
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28-09-2007, 21:45	#4
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TeflonTom Briskodiodion Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hayling Island, Hampshire Posts: 7,992 Thanks: 43 Thanked 211 Times in 183 Posts	Re: nice one for ya. ed, dont join the tops of the dampers together mate.... i'm not trying to sound picky, but unless the area it's mounted on if reinforced it will be purely cosmetic __________________ vorsprung durch czechnik

29-09-2007, 09:20	#6
pinkskud not a bird!!! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: pixi said not to fill my box Posts: 2,134 Thanks: 1 Thanked 77 Times in 73 Posts	Re: nice one for ya. thanks tom. working on a removable brace at the mow. so i can take it out, leaving the mounting in plates there. so i can put me bikes in, and then bolt it back in. that way no tw@ **** a$$ hole can nick me bikes. __________________ also found on http://skodafelicia.freeforums.org/index.php

29-09-2007, 14:30	#7
anewman Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Leeds Posts: 2,514 Thanks: 987 Thanked 222 Times in 205 Posts	Re: nice one for ya. Sounds like a great anti-theft measure even if it doesn't imrove handling much. __________________ 94 Favorit GLXIe Estate

29-09-2007, 19:34	#9
pinkskud not a bird!!! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: pixi said not to fill my box Posts: 2,134 Thanks: 1 Thanked 77 Times in 73 Posts	Re: nice one for ya. only of they have a tourqus set to hand. its the only use i can think of for the dam things. __________________ also found on http://skodafelicia.freeforums.org/index.php

30-09-2007, 20:03	#10
harryhill Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Newcastle upon tyne Posts: 370 Thanks: 13 Thanked 50 Times in 44 Posts	Re: nice one for ya. don't wanna pour water onto the fire but looking at the rear suspension set up underneath and that whacking great trailing arm bar would joining the top make a difference? I am thinking this out in my head and to my knowledge the trailing arm is linked to the suspension of both rear wheels therefore if one wheel hits a huge pothole this will to some degree affect the other which will explain its rear wobble on cornering. Unless each wheel was made more independant on what the other is doing then i cannot see what a strut brace would achieve if you know what i mean!! You may know something i don't though and if there is a benefit let me know!!

01-10-2007, 13:00	#12
KenONeill Briskodian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Normally somewhere in Scotland! Posts: 10,381 Thanks: 56 Thanked 491 Times in 482 Posts	Re: nice one for ya. Unless it's a genuinely rigid bar between the turret tops, no strut brace will make any difference. With bolts both ends, it's totally cosmetic.

01-10-2007, 22:36	#13
pinkskud not a bird!!! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: pixi said not to fill my box Posts: 2,134 Thanks: 1 Thanked 77 Times in 73 Posts	Re: nice one for ya. this i have thought about. i wasnt planning to have one bolt per end like most, but was thinking more like three, so as the bar cant pivot. __________________ also found on http://skodafelicia.freeforums.org/index.php

02-10-2007, 17:27	#16
pinkskud not a bird!!! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: pixi said not to fill my box Posts: 2,134 Thanks: 1 Thanked 77 Times in 73 Posts	Re: nice one for ya. the idea is just to see what effect it has. there is flex in the body, im just trying to find the best place and way to counter it. __________________ also found on http://skodafelicia.freeforums.org/index.php

03-10-2007, 08:45	#17
KenONeill Briskodian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Normally somewhere in Scotland! Posts: 10,381 Thanks: 56 Thanked 491 Times in 482 Posts	Re: nice one for ya. How do you fancy a full FIA roll-cage, or welding up the rear passenger doors? I'm being serious here; most shell flex comes from the passenger area and those big holes called door gaps, not from the suspension. That's why most race and rally classes use a 2 or 3 door shell if available; the much shorter door gaps give an intrinsically stiffer shell.

03-10-2007, 17:44	#18
pinkskud not a bird!!! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: pixi said not to fill my box Posts: 2,134 Thanks: 1 Thanked 77 Times in 73 Posts	Re: nice one for ya. your right the holes in the back are the main twist points. but the aim of this project is to make a felicia VRS, a factory sport if you will. so i'm trying to keep the car looking as close to something that could have come out the factory as possible. the car must function as normal! so, i'm trying to hide anything that looks like an after market bolt on. i do have some plans for bracing to go under the car, but haven't had time to draw them up yet. thanks for your input mind, is always good to bounce ideas about. __________________ also found on http://skodafelicia.freeforums.org/index.php

09-10-2007, 07:07	#19
anewman Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Leeds Posts: 2,514 Thanks: 987 Thanked 222 Times in 205 Posts	Re: nice one for ya. Is this any good? Board Message __________________ 94 Favorit GLXIe Estate

09-10-2007, 22:51	#20
pinkskud not a bird!!! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: pixi said not to fill my box Posts: 2,134 Thanks: 1 Thanked 77 Times in 73 Posts	Re: nice one for ya. nice one, theres a point to start from. now to make it look a bit more "factory" i'm on that forum somewhere by the way. but briskys better. __________________ also found on http://skodafelicia.freeforums.org/index.php

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