Sneak Forge Fabia FMIC pics

WW_VRS · 17-06-2005, 11:00

I'm guessing a hybrid turbo would help get rid of the lag a little more if you find there is lag

***Neo_VR*** · 17-06-2005, 11:08

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Originally Posted by WW_VRS

I'm guessing a hybrid turbo would help get rid of the lag a little more if you find there is lag

Oh yes.. lol

I found out that the std sidemount on the fabia is actually smaller than one on the octi RS.. i didnt expect that, the surface area is the same, but the octy one is about an inch deeper, which increases its capacity over the Fabia one.. also the octavia has bigger pipework.

I quite like the mounting brackets... a Little bling never harmed anyone... plus ColinD summed it up nicely.. it looks like a cop car thru the rear-veiw mirror

Jon TDI · 17-06-2005, 11:28

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Originally Posted by Neo_VR

Oh yes.. lol

I found out that the std sidemount on the fabia is actually smaller than one on the octi RS.. i didnt expect that, the surface area is the same, but the octy one is about an inch deeper, which increases its capacity over the Fabia one.. also the octavia has bigger pipework.

I quite like the mounting brackets... a Little bling never harmed anyone... plus ColinD summed it up nicely.. it looks like a cop car thru the rear-veiw mirror

I bet people will slow if they see you behind them!

I like the stealth approach. Wolf in sheeps clothing!

***Neo_VR*** · 17-06-2005, 11:33

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Originally Posted by Jon TDI

I bet people will slow if they see you behind them!

I like the stealth approach. Wolf in sheeps clothing!

Me too..

but i also want people to know "ok maybe i shouldnt mess"
it should give a nice differentiation between people in the know with cars.. and bmw owners

flatfourburble · 17-06-2005, 11:54

Colin when will we see any figure/results.

The "heatwave" this weekend should be a good test for it?

***Neo_VR*** · 17-06-2005, 12:02

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Originally Posted by flatfourburble

Colin when will we see any figure/results.

The "heatwave" this weekend should be a good test for it?

Yep.. just charging the laptop up now to go get some logging done.. but as mentioned above, i can already feel the difference.

Glider · 17-06-2005, 12:14

Did you get a chance to Rolling road it before and after. The Seat one I saw gave 12bhp, twin TT gives around 9bhp just wondered if the new Forge one does any better.

***Neo_VR*** · 17-06-2005, 12:17

we didnt get a chance to RR due to time constraints.
but it will be done by Forge in the future, to get some good, repeatable results

flatfourburble · 17-06-2005, 12:33

Sounds good colin I look foward to seeing the results

faboka vrs · 17-06-2005, 13:22

Colin what blocks do you use on Vagcom to log the temps?

***Neo_VR*** · 17-06-2005, 13:44

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Originally Posted by faboka vrs

Colin what blocks do you use on Vagcom to log the temps?

I use group 11 - charge control (boost pressure requested/delivered etc)
group 10 -air system, maf readings and throttle position
and group 7 - temperatures for intake, coolant etc.

i usually log all 3 blocks, so i can see in a not so scientific way when the engine is on full boost and full throttle.

RichardBW · 17-06-2005, 21:30

Colin has answered most questions here for us so not much for me to add. It lloks like we can go to 50mm depth with same surface area, we will also test a 60mm but this may start to effect flow through to the cooling components behind the IC? Ideally the next fit and performance test will be on dyno to see the difference between the 3 core depths. Hopefully get this complete in the next 2 weeks.
I also thought the mounts were a bit obvious. They will be a bit shorter on the production ones.
Also just an aside. The welding on Colins FMIC is a bit OTT. We altered this one several times so quite a bit of it was welded and then cut back off. It had four different end tank designs in 2 days so please dont be too fussy on this one when you see it on Saturday at Bruntingthorpe. Actually the particular guy at Forge who welded this one is called Colin and he too owns a Skoda.......spooky?

WW_VRS · 18-06-2005, 09:28

It's a prototype and for a prototype / test model it looks VERY clean. I think most of us would be pretty impressed with that rapid turnaround time you guys mentioned anyway

Very interested to see what those different depths will do though, I must admit. Still not sure if I can ever afford to get this, but fun nevertheless

Cheekymonkey · 25-06-2005, 19:51

What's the latest on the FMIC then chaps???

***Neo_VR*** · 25-06-2005, 20:41

Going down to stealth in a couple of weeks for more official testing on a RR, will also be finalising core design... not long to go now chaps

subvertbeats · 19-08-2005, 16:16

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Originally Posted by Neo_VR

Going down to stealth in a couple of weeks for more official testing on a RR, will also be finalising core design... not long to go now chaps

hmmmmm...any news ?

RichardBW · 22-08-2005, 11:15

Tests proved no benefit of going to 50mm deep core so it will stay at 40mm. We do still have a little bit of pipework rectification to do and then the whole kit will be fully available for order. Colins car is due back with us for a day very soon for this last bit of work.
We are also getting enquiries now for the 100pd kit. This will be different due to the standard pipes having a different coupling fitment.
Full details and test figures will be released when kit is fully available.
Thanks.

WW_VRS · 22-08-2005, 11:59

Thanks for the update

***Neo_VR*** · 30-08-2005, 16:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardBW

Tests proved no benefit of going to 50mm deep core so it will stay at 40mm. We do still have a little bit of pipework rectification to do and then the whole kit will be fully available for order. Colins car is due back with us for a day very soon for this last bit of work.
We are also getting enquiries now for the 100pd kit. This will be different due to the standard pipes having a different coupling fitment.
Full details and test figures will be released when kit is fully available.
Thanks.

Well.. im back from (very) sunny Gloucester..
the kit is *almost* ready now.. a few changes were made to the pipework:

so now theres NO cutting of the bumper AT ALL (previously had to cut a little section out of the inside of the bumper - wasnt visible to the outside anyway)

also the MAP sensor was moved slighty, as on the development system, oil was collecting in the map sensor and weeping out the seals..

and the pipework is no-longer in the way of the towing eye (not that ill ever need it lol)

I think it looks like the pipe-run flows better too

WW_VRS · 30-08-2005, 21:02

Nice to see this kind of attention to detail

17-06-2005, 11:00	#41
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,736 Thanks: 44 Thanked 70 Times in 61 Posts	I'm guessing a hybrid turbo would help get rid of the lag a little more if you find there is lag __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here

17-06-2005, 11:54	#45
flatfourburble "Bones" Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Heathrow/Crewe Posts: 5,449 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Colin when will we see any figure/results. The "heatwave" this weekend should be a good test for it? __________________ Oh to have the internet back..................oh have I missed it

17-06-2005, 12:17	#48
*Neo_VR* UberMod™ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 12,064 Thanks: 66 Thanked 161 Times in 112 Posts	we didnt get a chance to RR due to time constraints. but it will be done by Forge in the future, to get some good, repeatable results __________________ ColGod the UberMod VXR, Gti, ST, Type-R, vRS, Cupra, Shifty... An MPS fears not these things...

17-06-2005, 12:33	#49
flatfourburble "Bones" Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Heathrow/Crewe Posts: 5,449 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sounds good colin I look foward to seeing the results __________________ Oh to have the internet back..................oh have I missed it

17-06-2005, 13:22	#50
faboka vrs Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Merseyside Posts: 5,943 Thanks: 11 Thanked 35 Times in 35 Posts	Colin what blocks do you use on Vagcom to log the temps? __________________ John Take away the poor damping, inadequate bushes, heavy diesel lump and spongy brakes its not a bad warm hatch

17-06-2005, 12:14	#47
Glider Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 2,409 Thanks: 5 Thanked 50 Times in 31 Posts	Did you get a chance to Rolling road it before and after. The Seat one I saw gave 12bhp, twin TT gives around 9bhp just wondered if the new Forge one does any better.

17-06-2005, 21:30	#52
RichardBW Site Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Midlands Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Colin has answered most questions here for us so not much for me to add. It lloks like we can go to 50mm depth with same surface area, we will also test a 60mm but this may start to effect flow through to the cooling components behind the IC? Ideally the next fit and performance test will be on dyno to see the difference between the 3 core depths. Hopefully get this complete in the next 2 weeks. I also thought the mounts were a bit obvious. They will be a bit shorter on the production ones. Also just an aside. The welding on Colins FMIC is a bit OTT. We altered this one several times so quite a bit of it was welded and then cut back off. It had four different end tank designs in 2 days so please dont be too fussy on this one when you see it on Saturday at Bruntingthorpe. Actually the particular guy at Forge who welded this one is called Colin and he too owns a Skoda.......spooky?

18-06-2005, 09:28	#53
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,736 Thanks: 44 Thanked 70 Times in 61 Posts	It's a prototype and for a prototype / test model it looks VERY clean. I think most of us would be pretty impressed with that rapid turnaround time you guys mentioned anyway Very interested to see what those different depths will do though, I must admit. Still not sure if I can ever afford to get this, but fun nevertheless __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here

25-06-2005, 19:51	#54
Cheekymonkey Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Warwick Posts: 425 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	What's the latest on the FMIC then chaps??? __________________ Dave Ex - Fabia VRS Owner Now Z4 Coupe

25-06-2005, 20:41	#55
*Neo_VR* UberMod™ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 12,064 Thanks: 66 Thanked 161 Times in 112 Posts	Going down to stealth in a couple of weeks for more official testing on a RR, will also be finalising core design... not long to go now chaps __________________ ColGod the UberMod VXR, Gti, ST, Type-R, vRS, Cupra, Shifty... An MPS fears not these things...

22-08-2005, 11:15	#57
RichardBW Site Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Midlands Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Tests proved no benefit of going to 50mm deep core so it will stay at 40mm. We do still have a little bit of pipework rectification to do and then the whole kit will be fully available for order. Colins car is due back with us for a day very soon for this last bit of work. We are also getting enquiries now for the 100pd kit. This will be different due to the standard pipes having a different coupling fitment. Full details and test figures will be released when kit is fully available. Thanks.

22-08-2005, 11:59	#58
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,736 Thanks: 44 Thanked 70 Times in 61 Posts	Thanks for the update __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here

30-08-2005, 21:02	#60
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,736 Thanks: 44 Thanked 70 Times in 61 Posts	Nice to see this kind of attention to detail __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here

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