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Old 01-07-2008, 18:09   #1
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Heres one for you all to ponder.

having a chat with my mate at work, and im telling him about the nigh on supersonic ability of my VRS - anyway, we get on to the subject of weight in a car

i think its totally possible, for my VRS (bog standard, 1.9tdi on an 07 plate) to do 200MPH (wait dont laugh) IF you were to get a giant crane, lift the car up and the wheels werent touching the ground. (ie no weight on the wheels)

now OK, the car wouldnt be doing 200mph, it would be doing 0mph (or youde hope) but would the wheels be doing 200mph? anyone think thats possible? i think it may well be, but my mate seems to think that the gearing of the car wouldnt take it much above the TOP speed of 130mph (he suggests maybe 135-140)

anyone got anything to add to this clearly bizzare question/debate? (apart from WHY!)
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Old 01-07-2008, 18:16   #2
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The gearing of the car will still clearly come into play, so whatever hitting the limiter in 6th gives you, and whether the car is remapped or not.

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Old 01-07-2008, 19:54   #3
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think you could proberly squeeze 150 mph if you done that but there will be someone on here will know the answer
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It would only do 200mph if you used the crane to gently hold it on a conveyor belt doing 70mph in the opposite direction.
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Weight saving will only affect acceleration. The Fabia has the aerodynamics of a thrown brick, so 130mph is it's limit there, make it more slippery and you may get to 150, when the gearing tops out.. After that you will need a hell of a lot more power and longer gearing, to overcome aero resistance and get to 200mph.

Or, reading the OP properly this time, you would get the wheels going about 150mph.
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If you got the crane to lift it high enough then dropped it, it might get to 200 mph before it hit the ground !!!!!!!
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What are you lads in Hereford on,? Effin hell
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If you got the crane to lift it high enough then dropped it, it might get to 200 mph before it hit the ground !!!!!!!
I suspect it wouldn't go much past 120mph due to the aerodynamics. I expect you could work it out though by comparing the thrust of the engine in 6th gear on the car and compare that thrust to the weight of the car. . . . if you could be bothered.
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Isn't around 120mph the maximum velocity an object can reach in free fall?

Obviously unless it's a really aerodynamic shape.
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like a rain drop the best shape ever to cut through air.
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Generally, I think the limiter on a vRS equates to a real 160 to 165mph. The limiter I think is around 5200rpm (redline at 4700 obviously) and roughly the vRS is geared for 30mph every 1000rpm in 6th gear.
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If you got the crane to lift it high enough then dropped it, it might get to 200 mph before it hit the ground !!!!!!!
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like a rain drop the best shape ever to cut through air.
I love this theory - if a raindrop is so frickin aerodynamic, why was the X-15 shaped like a dart?

Idea for Skudmissile - shape front of Fabia like X-15 *jedi hand wave*
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Was there any alcohol or recreational drugs involved during this conversation?
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Old 03-07-2008, 17:22   #15
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I love this theory - if a raindrop is so frickin aerodynamic, why was the X-15 shaped like a dart?

Idea for Skudmissile - shape front of Fabia like X-15 *jedi hand wave*
I thought the shape of a rain drop was more to do with the surface tension and the air flow making it a particular shape shape rather than the other way arround.

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Falling raindrops are often depicted in popular culture as "teardrop-shaped" — round at the bottom and narrowing towards the top — but this is incorrect. Only drops of water dripping from some sources are tear-shaped at the moment of formation. Small raindrops are nearly spherical. Larger ones become increasingly flattened on the bottom, like hamburger buns; very large ones are shaped like parachutes.[3] The shape of raindrops was studied by Philipp Lenard in 1898. He found that small raindrops (less than about 2 mm diameter) are approximately spherical. As they get larger (to about 5 mm diameter) they become more doughnut shaped. Beyond about 5 mm they become unstable and fragment. On average, raindrops are 1 to 2 mm in diameter. The biggest raindrops on Earth were recorded over Brazil and the Marshall Islands in 2004 — some of them were as large as 10 mm. The large size is explained by condensation on large smoke particles or by collisions between drops in small regions with particularly high content of liquid water.


Distant rainRaindrops impact at their terminal velocity, which is greater for larger drops. At sea level and without wind, 0.5 mm drizzle impacts at about 2 m/s, while large 5 mm drops impact at around 9 m/s.[4] The sound of raindrops hitting water is caused by bubbles of air oscillating underwater. See droplet's sound.
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I suspect it wouldn't go much past 120mph due to the aerodynamics. I expect you could work it out though by comparing the thrust of the engine in 6th gear on the car and compare that thrust to the weight of the car. . . . if you could be bothered.
well the top speed is 129 and i can say thats achieveable (on a private road of course)

in answer to the above, no recreational drugs were used in this conversation, but lots of animals were harmed. so thats fine

and in final conclusion - yes most herefordians are just weird - but i come from east anglia and my collegue from germany - noone from germany can be a bad person
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