Alientech Switchable Map device - group buy?

[faboka vrs]

Originally Posted by devonutopia

No - It was just for the unit itself.

I am currently in the position of having taken my current remap off my car, and stuck it on my PC. And now have 2 spare slots on the powergate to upload to the car.

So who's doing your mapping? Still Allard or do you have to use AlienTech?

[devonutopia]

I can use whoever I like in theory, but I want it to be Allard who provide the files, even if it means i upload them to my car whilst down in Devon to try them out, rather than the usual thing which involves me leaving the car with them in Gloucester for a week....

[thewez]

do they reset the flash counter after each use.

[dervdoctor]

Originally Posted by thewez

do they reset the flash counter after each use.

the flash counter is not re-set.

I think I could sell one with one map for £395 all in. We do most the phase 1 maps in house (TDi's) and some are developed with some of our contacts (1.8 20v's etc) .

[mathepac]

Is this thread dead?

I had a chat with a Skoda Tech recently (unnamed but a "normally relaible source", in PR-speak) who told me that the ECUs shipped with the cars have storage for 3 maps built in and these are switchable via VAG-COM. The factory uses them to switch maps depending on the destination market for the car. It seems it is possible to store custom maps in these locations. Possible is not the same as advisable.

Anyone else know about this?

[devonutopia]

Its dead in terms of a group buy, but I welcome any banter / chit-chat regarding the alientech device and anything similar. I believe forge use the ecu's own 3 slot thingy, but I do prefer the idea of having a device to flash your own ECU - mainly because you could have infinite maps (stored on PC, and uploaded to alientech thingy via USB ) (then onto car via obd2)

[mathepac]

Right. My conversation was about having maps for a variety of fuelling / performance options readily switchable (diesel, diesel+water, diesel+water/methanol) from the cabin, but the ECU storage option woul mean investing in VAG-COM (as well as paying for all the bits of hardware, maps and so on) - not cheap!!

[devonutopia]

Well, the alientech device cost me £135 - but is a blank canvas. It's going to take some time and experimenting, but all being well, Allard can load 3 maps on it - one high tune daily driver for water/meth, one all-out smokey NOS use one, and a de-tuned one that I will probably never ever use.

[mathepac]

Originally Posted by devonutopia

... and a de-tuned one that I will probably never ever use.

Surprise, surprise!

[devonmikeyboy]

Price has gone up quite a lot since you bought one Jason. I paid 230 euro = £182 for mine this week, would have been £150 if i had bought one from his last batch but by the time my monthly pay cheque had cleared the last one had gone.

[devonutopia]

Originally Posted by devonmikeyboy

Price has gone up quite a lot since you bought one Jason. I paid 230 euro = £182 for mine this week, would have been £150 if i had bought one from his last batch but by the time my monthly pay cheque had cleared the last one had gone.

Whats your plans with it then?

I'm not sure exactly how mine will help me. I think I need to give it, my car, and some cash to Allard and let them play for a week. In the long run it might allow them to map cars remotely, which is probably a good market. Someone has this device - sends stock map by email, map is tweaked and emailed back, loaded up to ECU by the owner.

[mathepac]

Originally Posted by devonutopia

... In the long run it might allow them to map cars remotely, which is probably a good market. Someone has this device - sends stock map by email, map is tweaked and emailed back, loaded up to ECU by the owner.

But will this not negate the value in having a custom map done? Aren't we back into the realm of what I call the "door-step" tuners who show up at the house, bang in a map and disappear, no rolling road, no diagnostics beforehand, and no idea what the map does until you get her up on rollers again?

[devonutopia]

Well, the idea will be (where possible) to send vagcom logs with the original map. I would still personally prefer to leave my car there for a week, and let them actually test the maps with the butt dyno.

[devonmikeyboy]

[quote=devonutopia;1362809]Whats your plans with it then?

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I want to try some different maps as i am still on my first safe map that was put on the car when i first had the VT5 fitted. At the moment peak boost is only 2.3 bar and constant 1.7 bar, new map which will be 2.9 bar peak and 1.95 bar constant plus a few other bits changed.