Cat1 Alarm Question

Turbo_Boss · 24-07-2003, 01:14

Many times when I read post here about alarms in Skodas I read the term CAT 1

Is this a specification that your insurance require when you install a alarm??

How you activate this aftermarket Alarm??? Do you have a keychain remote for this alarm???

So you have to be with your Skoda remote key and also the alarm remote???

Can you explain me.

I want to install a alarm in my L&K and wants to know all the options.

Isaac

KentStu · 24-07-2003, 11:35

Isaac - you are right that it is a British thing. The Motor Insurance Repair Research Centre (MIRRC), known as Thatcham, tests and approves 'aftermarket' security systems. CAT 1 is Thatcham's top level approval and means a combined alarm and immobiliser. The Alarm has to have (1) full perimeter and passenger compartment sensing and battery backed-up siren (2)
Passively armed immobiliser isolating a minimum of two operating systems (3) Anti-scan, anti-grab key-code system (4) Coded fuel valve for diesels.

Yes - Insurance companies will sometimes reduce their rates depending on the specification of the alarm.

The one fitted to most RS's in this country I understand was fitted by Skoda UK and is a Skorpion alarm - it has a separate alarm key fob - des has given a picture of this at this link: http://www.briskoda.net/forums/attac...=&postid=11390

You do end up with both key fobs. Have fun

**TaviaRS** · 24-07-2003, 11:39

I have a Sigma M32 cat2 to cat1 upgrade (the RS is Cat2 as standard). Integrates into the standard keyfob

ZootyRS · 24-07-2003, 11:46

The reason given for the Skoda/Scorpion cat1 upgrade having a separate fob is that the standard fob can't handle enough code combinations to qualify for cat1.

Does your Sigma upgrade replace the electronics in the fob? And if so, why can't the Skoda/Scorpion upgrade do this?

Having said that, I quite like having the two fobs as it means I can easily lock it without the alarm armed.

KentStu · 24-07-2003, 12:14

Zooty - agree I quite like having the option whether to arm the alarm or not ..... although its not much use when the alarm decides its going to go off no matter what

It took the Skoda dealer three days in the end to find what was wrong with my alarm last month - it wouldn't turn off even when you used the deactivating key

They eventually said they had found a wiring problem but they looked mighty pleased to see the back of my car - receptionist said it had been sitting in the service bay wailing away on & off for the whole period

Quinten · 24-07-2003, 13:11

Quote:

Originally posted by TaviaRS in this post
I have a Sigma M32 cat2 to cat1 upgrade (the RS is Cat2 as standard). Integrates into the standard keyfob

Jon, have you got any links/installers/tips for this? And costs?

Q.

**TaviaRS** · 24-07-2003, 13:15

It was cheaper than the Scorpion one in the accessories brochure. Most alarm places will do them, think it was £249 fitted.

MonkeyHanger · 24-07-2003, 21:01

If you want my personal opinion, when it comes to decent security theres only 1 name

Clifford

Expensive, but i would never cut corners on security.

Turbo_Boss · 24-07-2003, 22:23

But do in Your country the thief steal the Skoda cars??? What I mean is that our key has a built in chip that do not alow the car to start without the onwer key.

Do the thief there knows how to disasemble that chip to steal the car itself.

Or the alarm is more to protect the radio and other things inside the car.????

Here in Panama nobody steal european car.............

They only brake the glass to get the radio, etc

The HOT car that thief steal here are Diesel 4x4 like landcruiser, Fourruneer etc..................

24-07-2003, 01:14	#1
Turbo_Boss Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Panama Republic of Panama Posts: 307 Thanks: 1 Thanked 9 Times in 3 Posts	Cat1 Alarm Question Many times when I read post here about alarms in Skodas I read the term CAT 1 Is this a specification that your insurance require when you install a alarm?? How you activate this aftermarket Alarm??? Do you have a keychain remote for this alarm??? So you have to be with your Skoda remote key and also the alarm remote??? Can you explain me. I want to install a alarm in my L&K and wants to know all the options. Isaac

24-07-2003, 11:35	#2
KentStu Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canterbury, Kent Posts: 1,896 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Isaac - you are right that it is a British thing. The Motor Insurance Repair Research Centre (MIRRC), known as Thatcham, tests and approves 'aftermarket' security systems. CAT 1 is Thatcham's top level approval and means a combined alarm and immobiliser. The Alarm has to have (1) full perimeter and passenger compartment sensing and battery backed-up siren (2) Passively armed immobiliser isolating a minimum of two operating systems (3) Anti-scan, anti-grab key-code system (4) Coded fuel valve for diesels. Yes - Insurance companies will sometimes reduce their rates depending on the specification of the alarm. The one fitted to most RS's in this country I understand was fitted by Skoda UK and is a Skorpion alarm - it has a separate alarm key fob - des has given a picture of this at this link: http://www.briskoda.net/forums/attac...=&postid=11390 You do end up with both key fobs. Have fun __________________ Stu Yellow Octy RS & '58 Morris Minor Tourer Owner .......... not a hairdresser

24-07-2003, 11:39	#3
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,931 Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	I have a Sigma M32 cat2 to cat1 upgrade (the RS is Cat2 as standard). Integrates into the standard keyfob __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

24-07-2003, 11:46	#4
ZootyRS Frustrated Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: It's grim Posts: 1,920 Thanks: 18 Thanked 18 Times in 15 Posts	The reason given for the Skoda/Scorpion cat1 upgrade having a separate fob is that the standard fob can't handle enough code combinations to qualify for cat1. Does your Sigma upgrade replace the electronics in the fob? And if so, why can't the Skoda/Scorpion upgrade do this? Having said that, I quite like having the two fobs as it means I can easily lock it without the alarm armed. __________________ My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal

24-07-2003, 12:14	#5
KentStu Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canterbury, Kent Posts: 1,896 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Zooty - agree I quite like having the option whether to arm the alarm or not ..... although its not much use when the alarm decides its going to go off no matter what It took the Skoda dealer three days in the end to find what was wrong with my alarm last month - it wouldn't turn off even when you used the deactivating key They eventually said they had found a wiring problem but they looked mighty pleased to see the back of my car - receptionist said it had been sitting in the service bay wailing away on & off for the whole period __________________ Stu Yellow Octy RS & '58 Morris Minor Tourer Owner .......... not a hairdresser

24-07-2003, 13:15	#7
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,931 Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	It was cheaper than the Scorpion one in the accessories brochure. Most alarm places will do them, think it was £249 fitted. __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

24-07-2003, 21:01	#8
MonkeyHanger BANNED Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Anywhere but here Posts: 8,781 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If you want my personal opinion, when it comes to decent security theres only 1 name Clifford Expensive, but i would never cut corners on security.

24-07-2003, 22:23	#9
Turbo_Boss Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Panama Republic of Panama Posts: 307 Thanks: 1 Thanked 9 Times in 3 Posts	But do in Your country the thief steal the Skoda cars??? What I mean is that our key has a built in chip that do not alow the car to start without the onwer key. Do the thief there knows how to disasemble that chip to steal the car itself. Or the alarm is more to protect the radio and other things inside the car.???? Here in Panama nobody steal european car............. They only brake the glass to get the radio, etc The HOT car that thief steal here are Diesel 4x4 like landcruiser, Fourruneer etc.................. Last edited by Turbo_Boss; 27-07-2003 at 01:53.

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