Fitting Pioneer 77MP to Fabia vRS problem

simonlo · 25-03-2006, 17:07

Having a bit of trouble installing my head unit namely the fact that I cant get the tray back in after I've put the head unit in. So far I've pulled out old stereo, fitted the fascia plate on (the thin plate thing) and pulled out the tray (to make it easier to sort out the wires underneath.

Then I pushed the metal cage from the Pioneer into the top which has scraped up all the plastic inside. Now..

1) Am I doing the right thing?!?!
2) I cant get the tray back in after I installed the headunit (plus metal cage).

Can anyone help as its really getting on my nerves now..

Wardy · 25-03-2006, 18:04

I had a 77 in my vRS right at the start. Eventually converted back to the std HU as it was too bright at night. Anyway....

Everything WILL fit back in, but it's incredibly tight. I think what I evenutally ended up doing was getting the cage and HU in place, then placing the tray in underneath, and pushing everything back in at the one time. I think I might even have filed away some of the existing plastic on the inside of the dash, to help ease the cage in but I can't be sure, it's too long ago now.

Others have this model fitted, and might have worked out different ways of getting everything back in!

I know it's annoying but you'll get there eventually

Steve

helpmedisappear · 25-03-2006, 18:16

I dont have a 77MP but i do have a sony headunit in there and yes its very very tight. Personally i leave the tray in and fit the cage to it and the sides of the dash. I sort the wires out by pulling the air vents off (you have to unclip the hazard) as you can see behind the headunit and you can just about move the wires around with your fingers so the headunit pushes back fully. Its fiddly but not impossible!

Wardy · 25-03-2006, 18:22

Good tip about the air vents, had never occured to me that. Doing that will hopefully make it much easier to maneouvre the wiring so that everything can fit back into place.

I found on mine that if the tray was fully fitted before putting the cage/HU back, they wouldn't go that few extra mm to fit flush with the dash...

Steve

helpmedisappear · 25-03-2006, 18:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wardy

Good tip about the air vents, had never occured to me that. Doing that will hopefully make it much easier to maneouvre the wiring so that everything can fit back into place.

I found on mine that if the tray was fully fitted before putting the cage/HU back, they wouldn't go that few extra mm to fit flush with the dash...

Steve

Yeah, there is enough room above the headunit to put the ISO fittings and then push them back into a bit of a recess, the biggest recess is to the glovebox side where you can get quite a lot down there! Again its better to do this from the air vents or if youve got small hands take the glovebox out and you can get at it that way. I prefer the air vent way as you can actually see everything and my big sausage fingers fit!

simonlo · 25-03-2006, 23:10

Did you have to shave off the "fins" on the top of the tray in order for them to both fit in? When I was pushing both in they both seemed to bend to the pressure!! Is it just a case of holding your breath and pushing as hard as you can hoping nothing breaks?

The air vents trick sounds good - where do I start to remove it? Only my second head unit install and this one is much harder than the polo so gotta excuse me!

Lummox · 25-03-2006, 23:27

You shold have the tray in before fitting the headunit.

simonlo · 25-03-2006, 23:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lummox

You shold have the tray in before fitting the headunit.

Am I doing something wrong in that case cause I cant seem to push the metal cage in far enough when the tray is already in..

Lummox · 25-03-2006, 23:47

Then id say yes, I fitted mine with no hassles.

simonlo · 25-03-2006, 23:55

The metal cage that came with the pioneer seems to be scraping the inside of the plastic, is that normal? It's really really hard to push in properly..

Do I have to get another metal cage or something? The head unit fits inside it perfectly though.

Lummox · 26-03-2006, 00:05

Its normal, give it a tap in using a block of wood or similar.

helpmedisappear · 26-03-2006, 08:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by simonlo

The air vents trick sounds good - where do I start to remove it? Only my second head unit install and this one is much harder than the polo so gotta excuse me!

The whole unit just comes out of the dash (its just snuggly plugged in there), get a small screwdriver and carefully prize it out a bit and then get your nails behind and pull. You will just have to then unclip the hazard and then its out!

The cage will go in but again its very tight...which is a good thing as you dont want it rattling

simonlo · 26-03-2006, 21:15

Thanks everyone for the replies.. I just needed that bit of reassurance that I'm on the right track!

I'll give it another go tomorrow - it's time to get nasty with it!

25-03-2006, 17:07	#1
simonlo Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South UK Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Fitting Pioneer 77MP to Fabia vRS problem Having a bit of trouble installing my head unit namely the fact that I cant get the tray back in after I've put the head unit in. So far I've pulled out old stereo, fitted the fascia plate on (the thin plate thing) and pulled out the tray (to make it easier to sort out the wires underneath. Then I pushed the metal cage from the Pioneer into the top which has scraped up all the plastic inside. Now.. 1) Am I doing the right thing?!?! 2) I cant get the tray back in after I installed the headunit (plus metal cage). Can anyone help as its really getting on my nerves now..

25-03-2006, 18:04	#2
Wardy Re-FARB'd Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Around Manchester & Cheshire Posts: 10,427 Thanks: 349 Thanked 243 Times in 236 Posts	Re: Fitting Pioneer 77MP to Fabia vRS problem I had a 77 in my vRS right at the start. Eventually converted back to the std HU as it was too bright at night. Anyway.... Everything WILL fit back in, but it's incredibly tight. I think what I evenutally ended up doing was getting the cage and HU in place, then placing the tray in underneath, and pushing everything back in at the one time. I think I might even have filed away some of the existing plastic on the inside of the dash, to help ease the cage in but I can't be sure, it's too long ago now. Others have this model fitted, and might have worked out different ways of getting everything back in! I know it's annoying but you'll get there eventually Steve __________________ Wardy's Fabia vRS xenons : sunroof : cruise : OEM+ "Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen

25-03-2006, 18:16	#3
helpmedisappear Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bolton Posts: 1,764 Thanks: 37 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Fitting Pioneer 77MP to Fabia vRS problem I dont have a 77MP but i do have a sony headunit in there and yes its very very tight. Personally i leave the tray in and fit the cage to it and the sides of the dash. I sort the wires out by pulling the air vents off (you have to unclip the hazard) as you can see behind the headunit and you can just about move the wires around with your fingers so the headunit pushes back fully. Its fiddly but not impossible! __________________ Martin Black Magic Fabia vRS

25-03-2006, 18:22	#4
Wardy Re-FARB'd Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Around Manchester & Cheshire Posts: 10,427 Thanks: 349 Thanked 243 Times in 236 Posts	Re: Fitting Pioneer 77MP to Fabia vRS problem Good tip about the air vents, had never occured to me that. Doing that will hopefully make it much easier to maneouvre the wiring so that everything can fit back into place. I found on mine that if the tray was fully fitted before putting the cage/HU back, they wouldn't go that few extra mm to fit flush with the dash... Steve __________________ Wardy's Fabia vRS xenons : sunroof : cruise : OEM+ "Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen

25-03-2006, 23:10	#6
simonlo Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South UK Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Fitting Pioneer 77MP to Fabia vRS problem Did you have to shave off the "fins" on the top of the tray in order for them to both fit in? When I was pushing both in they both seemed to bend to the pressure!! Is it just a case of holding your breath and pushing as hard as you can hoping nothing breaks? The air vents trick sounds good - where do I start to remove it? Only my second head unit install and this one is much harder than the polo so gotta excuse me!

25-03-2006, 23:27	#7
Lummox Hairy Yeti Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,160 Thanks: 18 Thanked 538 Times in 470 Posts	Re: Fitting Pioneer 77MP to Fabia vRS problem You shold have the tray in before fitting the headunit. __________________ MK2 Golf GTi - APX 225bhp 1.8T - Emerald K3 - Quaife ATB - VR6 Widetrack - VR6 brakes front and rear - Neuspeed ARBs - Speedline alloys - H+R coilovers - Powerflex bushes - Helix clutch G60 flywheel - Adjustable solid top mounts - Custom engine bay - Tornado Motorsport MSA cage - and lots lots more.

25-03-2006, 23:47	#9
Lummox Hairy Yeti Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,160 Thanks: 18 Thanked 538 Times in 470 Posts	Re: Fitting Pioneer 77MP to Fabia vRS problem Then id say yes, I fitted mine with no hassles. __________________ MK2 Golf GTi - APX 225bhp 1.8T - Emerald K3 - Quaife ATB - VR6 Widetrack - VR6 brakes front and rear - Neuspeed ARBs - Speedline alloys - H+R coilovers - Powerflex bushes - Helix clutch G60 flywheel - Adjustable solid top mounts - Custom engine bay - Tornado Motorsport MSA cage - and lots lots more.

25-03-2006, 23:55	#10
simonlo Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South UK Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Fitting Pioneer 77MP to Fabia vRS problem The metal cage that came with the pioneer seems to be scraping the inside of the plastic, is that normal? It's really really hard to push in properly.. Do I have to get another metal cage or something? The head unit fits inside it perfectly though.

26-03-2006, 00:05	#11
Lummox Hairy Yeti Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,160 Thanks: 18 Thanked 538 Times in 470 Posts	Re: Fitting Pioneer 77MP to Fabia vRS problem Its normal, give it a tap in using a block of wood or similar. __________________ MK2 Golf GTi - APX 225bhp 1.8T - Emerald K3 - Quaife ATB - VR6 Widetrack - VR6 brakes front and rear - Neuspeed ARBs - Speedline alloys - H+R coilovers - Powerflex bushes - Helix clutch G60 flywheel - Adjustable solid top mounts - Custom engine bay - Tornado Motorsport MSA cage - and lots lots more.

26-03-2006, 21:15	#13
simonlo Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South UK Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Fitting Pioneer 77MP to Fabia vRS problem Thanks everyone for the replies.. I just needed that bit of reassurance that I'm on the right track! I'll give it another go tomorrow - it's time to get nasty with it!

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