Ice Advice (i'm A Poet, And I Don't Know It!)

devonutopia · 07-07-2003, 15:58

Hellooo

Currently in the progress of rummaging through Des's ICE bits and pieces to see what might be a good ICE mod for my Fabia. (see ice ice baby thread in ICE forum for list)

I currently have a semi-decent Kenwood single disc CD player. I'm generally happy with the sound as its quite crisp and generates decent "noise". However, there is a point at which distortion occurs and the volume must be turned down.

I'm not sure without a major investigation on my part what would easily help me with this. I had something like a sub-woofer in the boot in my mind. TBH I don't really know jack **** about ICE apart from the ON button, and the volume

Cheers

FabiaTDi · 07-07-2003, 16:54

Must admit mine speakers do break uo a little at really high volumes (about 50 on the dial) but its a bit too loud anyway at that volume!

Its the tweeters that seem to go first.
Was thinking of an under the seat sub woofer though, unless the tints get the money instead!

devonutopia · 07-07-2003, 16:59

under seat, mmmmm... Probably better than the boot...? Wonder if Des' kit includes better door speakers?

FabiaTDi · 07-07-2003, 17:05

Something like this at around £100. Probably not the best value for money, but might have a good effect being mounted under your backside!

On second thoughts maybe a boot mounted one would give better effect for "cruising". Unless you value the boot space!

**robmawer** · 07-07-2003, 17:26

Depends much on where the weakness lies - if it's the tweeter's distorting, then getting a sub
won't be much use. In this case, it's probably an idea to pluck them out and do one of three things:
1. Just replace the tweeter, though there aren't that many out there at a "good" price.
2. Get a composite set and replace both the door speaker and tweeter units.
3. Get coaxial speakers to replace the door speakers - surprisingly good treble from these actually.

If the problems with the sub, the cheapest option might be to filter out the frequencies from the head
unit which the speakers can't handle well - I'm told these will be <80Hz. So the speakers wouldn't
distort so much so would sound crisper, but you wouldn't get any attempt at low down bass.

If the problem is the head unit not being powerful enough to drive the speakers at high volume (causing
the distortion), then you'd be looking at an amp as a cure. If you've got RCA outputs on the back of
your head unit (and I'd be inclined to think you have, but do check) then it's dead easy.

If all this still isn't enough, then get a sub...

Rob.

Stimps · 07-07-2003, 18:43

Jason,

Apart from the sub, I'm running the standard fabia speakers in mine - no problems at all with them handling the output from my kenwood HU, unless the volume is *seriously* cranked up. Only thing I'd like to do is put some sort of crossover or low-frequency blocker on to them to stop the bass going through - no point when the sub does such a good job!

Best place for a sub is the boot IMHO, but with the fabia, you can kiss goodbye to any boot space once you've finished!

I'm still planning on doing a custom parcel shelf, and then maybe look at the front speakers. But maybe I'll get alloys first. Or be sensible and think of my bank balance!

07-07-2003, 15:58	#1
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ooo-ar, Oi be from Devonshire Posts: 29,096 Thanks: 60 Thanked 280 Times in 226 Posts	Ice Advice (i'm A Poet, And I Don't Know It!) Hellooo Currently in the progress of rummaging through Des's ICE bits and pieces to see what might be a good ICE mod for my Fabia. (see ice ice baby thread in ICE forum for list) I currently have a semi-decent Kenwood single disc CD player. I'm generally happy with the sound as its quite crisp and generates decent "noise". However, there is a point at which distortion occurs and the volume must be turned down. I'm not sure without a major investigation on my part what would easily help me with this. I had something like a sub-woofer in the boot in my mind. TBH I don't really know jack ** about ICE apart from the ON button, and the volume Cheers __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me.** See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

07-07-2003, 16:54	#2
FabiaTDi VT5 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 2,016 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Must admit mine speakers do break uo a little at really high volumes (about 50 on the dial) but its a bit too loud anyway at that volume! Its the tweeters that seem to go first. Was thinking of an under the seat sub woofer though, unless the tints get the money instead! __________________ Was: Allard Tuned Fabia vRS VT5 Turbo Conversion Now: '06 BMW 320i Auto On Order: New Audi A3 Sportback TDI

07-07-2003, 16:59	#3
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ooo-ar, Oi be from Devonshire Posts: 29,096 Thanks: 60 Thanked 280 Times in 226 Posts	under seat, mmmmm... Probably better than the boot...? Wonder if Des' kit includes better door speakers? __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

07-07-2003, 17:05	#4
FabiaTDi VT5 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 2,016 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Something like this at around £100. Probably not the best value for money, but might have a good effect being mounted under your backside! On second thoughts maybe a boot mounted one would give better effect for "cruising". Unless you value the boot space! __________________ Was: Allard Tuned Fabia vRS VT5 Turbo Conversion Now: '06 BMW 320i Auto On Order: New Audi A3 Sportback TDI

07-07-2003, 17:26	#5
robmawer Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Rochdale Posts: 12,365 Thanks: 2 Thanked 62 Times in 55 Posts	Depends much on where the weakness lies - if it's the tweeter's distorting, then getting a sub won't be much use. In this case, it's probably an idea to pluck them out and do one of three things: 1. Just replace the tweeter, though there aren't that many out there at a "good" price. 2. Get a composite set and replace both the door speaker and tweeter units. 3. Get coaxial speakers to replace the door speakers - surprisingly good treble from these actually. If the problems with the sub, the cheapest option might be to filter out the frequencies from the head unit which the speakers can't handle well - I'm told these will be <80Hz. So the speakers wouldn't distort so much so would sound crisper, but you wouldn't get any attempt at low down bass. If the problem is the head unit not being powerful enough to drive the speakers at high volume (causing the distortion), then you'd be looking at an amp as a cure. If you've got RCA outputs on the back of your head unit (and I'd be inclined to think you have, but do check) then it's dead easy. If all this still isn't enough, then get a sub... Rob. __________________

07-07-2003, 18:43	#6
Stimps Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Colchester Posts: 5,091 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Jason, Apart from the sub, I'm running the standard fabia speakers in mine - no problems at all with them handling the output from my kenwood HU, unless the volume is seriously cranked up. Only thing I'd like to do is put some sort of crossover or low-frequency blocker on to them to stop the bass going through - no point when the sub does such a good job! Best place for a sub is the boot IMHO, but with the fabia, you can kiss goodbye to any boot space once you've finished! I'm still planning on doing a custom parcel shelf, and then maybe look at the front speakers. But maybe I'll get alloys first. Or be sensible and think of my bank balance! __________________ Steve « Nature Green 1.4 16v Fabia Comfort »

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode