Will these speakers fit?

[888]

Hi

Ive done some research, and ive come up with these for replacement speakers.

Front

17cm Pioneer TS-G1748 or TS-G1749

Rear

13cm Pioneer TS-G1348 or TS-G1349

I think the 49's replace the 48's?

They are 'shallow basket design' so im presuming they will fit ok with no mods???, has anyone got these or know if they will fit my car?

Cheers

Gav

[humsk]

Fronts should be OK without mods - not sure about the rears as I had an estate. According to Pioneer website, the 48's are their recommended replacements for the OEM stuff.

[spidervrs]

I have just had 1749 & 1349 fitted to my Octavia - the fit itself was no problem and the sound is better than the poor original speakers.Now have great clarity - however still in search of extra bass

[888]

have you cut the plastic behind the door trim? this is supposed to improve it alot.

Re the 48's, the pioneer site recommends those, but i read somewhere that the 49's replaced them, but didnt really want to go for the 48's as they are a horrible colour and didnt want to see them in car!!!!

[spidervrs]

In ordered the 48's from mcs-direct and they sent me the 49's so I assume that they have replaced the 48's - I agree re colour,the 49's look better.It could be that Pioneer have not yet updated their fitment guide to include the 49's.

When I got the speakers fitted I didn't know re cutting the plastic...doh!!

[humsk]

Yeap, cutting a hole in the plastic behind the speaker significantly improves the sound - speaker cone movement is not being restricted hence more bass
I made a deflector/hood out of a plastic bag taped to the door plastic to prevent water running down onto the speaker magnet.

[888]

how? ive been thinking of ways to shape the plastic so its doesnt run down into the car!!

did you take all the trim off to do that, or is there enough room with just the speakers out?

[888]

just ordered the speakers fitting next weekend then

[humsk]

I did remove the door cards but it is possible to cut the plastic without – first remove speaker cover and old speaker.
Make an upside down ‘T‘ shaped cut in the plastic with the horizontal cut above a quarter of the way up from the bottom of the hole.
The next bit is were it helps if you’ve got small hands – using wide waterproof adhesive tape (eg duck tape), stick a length of tape vertically to hold the two flaps apart so you form a canopy. The air gap doesn’t need to be massive – as long as the speakers can “breathe”.
The new speakers will have different connectors so unless you intend to rewire back to the HU, the best bet is to cut the original connectors off and either solder new ones on or use screw terminal connectors to joint a short length of the lead supplied with the speakers.
Have fun next weekend

[888]

nah, when i sell the car i will put the std ones back in, so will 'bodge' the wiring, not 100% sure how i will yet, will have a look when i get it all out!!!

cheers for the info, will have fun

[cmcm789]

Originally Posted by 888

nah, when i sell the car i will put the std ones back in, so will 'bodge' the wiring, not 100% sure how i will yet, will have a look when i get it all out!!!

cheers for the info, will have fun

Is it not possible to purchase some sort of universal connectors/ adapters for the speaker connections which could be reverted back to original when selling on??

Or could these be made with small pieces of wire, DIY job??

Maybe i could experiment and flog them on Ebay

[888]

havent a clue what im doing, just got some info from some old posts, so will be fun!! hehe

[cheezemonkhai]

Maplin or similar sell crimp connectors which will slide over the new speaker terminals and will almost certainly sell the correct spades to push into the old connector. So about 3" of decent ofc cable and a couple of crimped plugs and bobs your uncle

[888]

cool, will ave a look, speakers arrived today, look good i dont think there is a maplin local? what sort of place is that? would halfords sell something like this?

[cheezemonkhai]

yes halfords should do the bits, however maplin will sell online too, www.maplin.com.

Aren't the speakers you orders 2ways as opposed to componenets? If so that means you're putting the treble down at floor level or are you leaving the crossover and speakers in place.

[888]

sorry not sure what you are on about mate, they are 2 way, and i was gonna replace the std ones in the front doors with the 1749's and the rears with the 1349's, and leave the tweeters in place? why will this cause a problem?

Also, just found out that there is a maplin in town!!!! so will go there tomorrow with the speaker and try and get it to fit using something, checked the speakers out last night, and i have to plugs on the speaker, and a lead to plug onto those, and nothing on the other end, but from memory there are 4 on a std skoda speaker? so not sure what to do next

[humsk]

What cheezemonkhai is getting at is that you will effectively have two tweeters per channel - the existing tweeter in the door mirror cover trim and the one in the new speaker. This would make the sound overly bright but as the 1749's will be low down, it shouldn't be too bad - just need to tweek the audio settings.

As for the rears, as long as you disconnect the rear door tweeters, it should be fine.

You are unlikely to find a connector the same type as on the existing speakers, so I think the best bet if you're going to refit the existing speakers when you sell the car is cut the existing connector off leaving about 1" of cable on it (keep in a safe place). Then connect a short length of the suuplied speaker cable to the existing harness using a screw terminal block - no crimping or soldering required. When you come to sell the car, just reconnect the old connector again using the screw terminal block.

[cheezemonkhai]

come on don't be tight to the next owner. Chock block will fail in no time in the wet door.

At least if you are going to cut it when you put it back crimp the cables together with heatshrinking butt connectors.:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...plice&doy=27m4

Also I would have thought you would have been better off with these speakers personally:

http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/product_...nomy_id=25-132

http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/product_...nomy_id=25-132

EDIT:If you can pop a pic of the back of the speaker showing the terminals in a bit of detail i should be able to help there. Eg what you have and what you are replacing them with.

[bk1]

I recently fitted the TS-1785's and they sound much better than the standard ones. Easy to fit, although I get some buzzing from passenger door with bass turned up, but distortion happens at higher volumes than with old speakers.

I used very small spade connectors (male) to connect the new speakers to the old connectors, and taped them up tight so they don't come out. You need the very small (1/4 inch?) male spades though.

I also tried disconnecting the rear tweeters but thought it sounded worse, so joined them up again.

[888]

I went for those speakers as they where the recommended ones on the pioneer site, i looked at a few other makes of speakers but they where too deep, and these come recommended by someone that has them fitted, so thought i would get them, good enough price too at £60. Those ones you advised have components with them, im struggling to fit the std ones, let alone ones with them aswell

I thought about those heat shrink ones, but dont have a heat gun, or even a hair dryer, so they would be no good.

Lunch time today i went to halfords and had a chat, wanted to see if there was something i could buy that would just let me plug in and go, or something like that, but this is not available, so after some chatting, i will use the speaker cable i have with the speakers (plugs attached for the speaker) and add some spade connectors to that, and then cut off the std ones in the car, and combine the 4 calbes to 2 cables, then add the other connectors onto that, and fingers crossed it will work. Im getting a crimping tool from a mate to do it properly-ish.

Will also try disconnecting the rear tweeter, but would like to leave the fronts, will just have a play with the stereo......

Will let ya know how i get on!!! wish me luck............that sounds daft actually!!

Ive never been one for doing stuff to a car, i was lazy and got the garage to do it, but i want to be more hands on with this one