Lo all :)

Alan M · 24-05-2005, 22:33

Well, i'm off to the local Skoda dealership tomorrow to talk about a nice black Fabia VRS that's sitting on the forecourt. I registered on the forum a day or two ago, but i've spent a little time lurking and reading to get a feel for the place.

I've currently got an old Megane Coupe 2.0 16v. It's been a fantastic car (100% reliable Renault!

), but it's starting show it's age now (9 years old, and i've had it for 6). The Skoda dealers have offered me a bit more than i was expecting for it, so i'll see what i can knock off the sticker price on the Fabia. It's pre-registered, on an 05 plate. If they don't bite, i've got the chance of a nearly new Fabia VRS on a private sale from a friend. Either way, by this time next week i should be running around in a Fabia...

**JaneC** · 24-05-2005, 22:42

Welcome

Good luck on your negotiations with the dealer !

Sonic1980 · 24-05-2005, 22:52

Yeah, good luck... whatever you pay its worth a whole lot more - enjoy it!

**VRStu** · 24-05-2005, 22:52

Good luck with the deal mate. There'll be no looking back.

Bear in mind that you may not get a fantastic deal on the new car if he is giving you good cash for yours. Think long and hard before you try the private sale route on your Renault, you could get your fingers burnt trying to get rid of it!!

Alan M · 24-05-2005, 22:56

Yeah, i know that my Renault is now worth very little. However, there's always a little 'haggling room' built into the sticker price, and i'd be a fool not to at least try.

Alan M · 25-05-2005, 10:53

Well, the dealer has blown it. They wanted £11995 for a pre-registered VRS, or £10995 for a 1 year old 21,000 miler. They offered me £1200 for the Renault (i was expecting a grand, so that was a bit over), so that left £10795 to pay. I offered him £10500 (this is what my mate is asking for his VRS of the same age on a private sale), so he disappeared for 10 minutes, 'talked' to his manager, and then said he couldn't give me anymore off the price, but he would knock £100 off the used one. I asked him if he would put 12 months tax on it, he refused. Onto the used one then... With the £100 off and my car in part-ex i was looking at £9695. I'd already had a look around the car, and noticed that it needed 2 new front tyres and tax. 21,000 miles is above average for the age too. I asked him about new tyres, and he said he'd have to get the car looked at by his service department and see what they had to say about it. I told him that they were well below the wear-bars, and i'd be risking a £2000 fine if i drove it away like that. He wasn't interested. He wouldn't even put 6 months tax on it. Time to walk away...

Jon TDI · 25-05-2005, 11:54

Sounds like they were being very stubborn.

MikeF · 25-05-2005, 13:35

have you checked out the prices mentioned in various forums on this site, between 11k for pre reg and 11,400 for new (not pre reg)

lozgti · 25-05-2005, 13:41

Yes,plenty of good deals out there.Best of luck.Welcome too!

Alan M · 25-05-2005, 15:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon TDI

Sounds like they were being very stubborn.

Stubborn doesn't quite cover it...

I think he had the impression that i was buying a car no matter what. I am, just not his...

**VRStu** · 25-05-2005, 16:28

The year old one is a non starter - too expensive.

Did the pre reg have any options?

Basic list is £12380 plus the Black paint at £280 making it £12660 if it's a basic car.

Saving of £661 plus your extra £200 you weren't expecting is a £881 saving.

I'm not saying buy the new one but you are talking about paying your mate £10500 and being stuck with a 9 year old renault.

He was asking an extra £295 (A couple of weeks in Auto Trader is gonna cost you best part of £80 and someone will want to knock you down on it too) for a new car with little or no mileage or road wear. Based on those numbers and assuming all have the same options I think you'd be silly to buy your mates one too!!

There is an age old addage to bear in mind here - Never buy a car from friends or family. It will bite you in the ****.

Jimmy · 25-05-2005, 16:37

Hmmm....

Assuming the year old one is out of the equation.

Pre-reg = delivery miles (I assume) so effectively a brand new car and you get rid of the Renault.... all for £10,795

Your mates car (what's the mileage?) for £10,500

I think it's a no brainer really.

**VRStu** · 25-05-2005, 16:40

I think thats the point I, rather long windedly, was trying to make Jimmy.

Thank you

Jimmy · 25-05-2005, 16:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRStu

I think thats the point I, rather long windedly, was trying to make Jimmy.

Thank you

Didn't see your other thread Stu before I started tapping away. Great minds think alike

Forgot to say. Welcome to the forum aswell Alan.

carefree · 25-05-2005, 18:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon TDI

Sounds like they were being very stubborn.

Because they know they can sell it....sad but true

Alan M · 25-05-2005, 23:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRStu

Did the pre reg have any options?

Aside from the black paint, it had no options.

I understand what you guys are saying about part-ex'ing the Megane just to get rid of it. However, my mate's car is only 5 months old and 6000 miles. If i part-ex mine at the dealers, i'm effectively giving it away. If i buy my mate's car, i've saved £295 straight off, plus whatever i get for the Megane, even if it is less than what the dealer offered. At the end of the day, that money's better off in my pocket than the dealer's...

I've heard that old addage before, and i don't believe a word of it. My first car was a Mini 850 that i bought from a friend for £50 around 1993. I still miss it today...

MikeF · 27-05-2005, 14:09

ebay is the way

dont part ex just stick it on ebay, garages are easier to deal with anyway when you arent part x'ing. Anything more than 11600 for a brand new not pre reg black fabia no options and you didnt try hard enough

Dont be put off by salesmen there all pushy and just want the cash. Print off a price from one of the internet firms and go in to your dealer and ask what he can do, no part x and 500 quid deposit and i'm sure he wont turn you away

24-05-2005, 22:33	#1
Alan M Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: North East UK, Gateshead Posts: 350 Members Car: Red 2005 Fabia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Lo all :) Well, i'm off to the local Skoda dealership tomorrow to talk about a nice black Fabia VRS that's sitting on the forecourt. I registered on the forum a day or two ago, but i've spent a little time lurking and reading to get a feel for the place. I've currently got an old Megane Coupe 2.0 16v. It's been a fantastic car (100% reliable Renault! ), but it's starting show it's age now (9 years old, and i've had it for 6). The Skoda dealers have offered me a bit more than i was expecting for it, so i'll see what i can knock off the sticker price on the Fabia. It's pre-registered, on an 05 plate. If they don't bite, i've got the chance of a nearly new Fabia VRS on a private sale from a friend. Either way, by this time next week i should be running around in a Fabia...

24-05-2005, 22:42	#2
JaneC Beeming Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: North Essex Posts: 3,294 Members Car: Blue Z3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 23 Times in 17 Posts	Welcome Good luck on your negotiations with the dealer ! __________________ Jane.

24-05-2005, 22:52	#3
Sonic1980 Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: A hop and a skip from nowhere Posts: 1,610 Members Car: Fabia vRS - Black Thanks: 3 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts	Yeah, good luck... whatever you pay its worth a whole lot more - enjoy it! __________________ Fabia v/RS http://www.whf.org.uk Wildlife Heritage Foundation - The Big Cat Sanctuary in Kent. Part of the European Endangered Species Programme (EEP) Big Cat Encounter - Want an idea for a great present??

24-05-2005, 22:52	#4
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 21,118 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 195 Thanked 1,046 Times in 928 Posts	Good luck with the deal mate. There'll be no looking back. Bear in mind that you may not get a fantastic deal on the new car if he is giving you good cash for yours. Think long and hard before you try the private sale route on your Renault, you could get your fingers burnt trying to get rid of it!! __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

25-05-2005, 11:54	#7
Jon TDI Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 3,229 Members Car: SEAT Leon TDI Sport Thanks: 34 Thanked 36 Times in 34 Posts	Sounds like they were being very stubborn. __________________ Black Magic SEAT Leon 2.0 TDI Sport - Green panel thingy, Upsolute jiggery pokery, Koni FSD/Eibach Pro Kit bouncy stuff, 18" Audi A8 Parabol rims, '08 Cupra black/honeycombe grille. Also driving around in a Mini ONE that thinks it's a Cooper! John Cooper Works airbox, Superchips Bluefin remap, Sprint Booster, 17" Cooper S Spokes

24-05-2005, 22:56	#5
Alan M Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: North East UK, Gateshead Posts: 350 Members Car: Red 2005 Fabia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeah, i know that my Renault is now worth very little. However, there's always a little 'haggling room' built into the sticker price, and i'd be a fool not to at least try.

25-05-2005, 10:53	#6
Alan M Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: North East UK, Gateshead Posts: 350 Members Car: Red 2005 Fabia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well, the dealer has blown it. They wanted £11995 for a pre-registered VRS, or £10995 for a 1 year old 21,000 miler. They offered me £1200 for the Renault (i was expecting a grand, so that was a bit over), so that left £10795 to pay. I offered him £10500 (this is what my mate is asking for his VRS of the same age on a private sale), so he disappeared for 10 minutes, 'talked' to his manager, and then said he couldn't give me anymore off the price, but he would knock £100 off the used one. I asked him if he would put 12 months tax on it, he refused. Onto the used one then... With the £100 off and my car in part-ex i was looking at £9695. I'd already had a look around the car, and noticed that it needed 2 new front tyres and tax. 21,000 miles is above average for the age too. I asked him about new tyres, and he said he'd have to get the car looked at by his service department and see what they had to say about it. I told him that they were well below the wear-bars, and i'd be risking a £2000 fine if i drove it away like that. He wasn't interested. He wouldn't even put 6 months tax on it. Time to walk away...

25-05-2005, 13:35	#8
MikeF Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: north west uk (bury) Posts: 1,336 Members Car: Thanks: 69 Thanked 38 Times in 29 Posts	have you checked out the prices mentioned in various forums on this site, between 11k for pre reg and 11,400 for new (not pre reg)

25-05-2005, 13:41	#9
lozgti Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: midlands Posts: 5,743 Members Car: Thanks: 10 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Yes,plenty of good deals out there.Best of luck.Welcome too!

25-05-2005, 16:28	#11
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 21,118 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 195 Thanked 1,046 Times in 928 Posts	The year old one is a non starter - too expensive. Did the pre reg have any options? Basic list is £12380 plus the Black paint at £280 making it £12660 if it's a basic car. Saving of £661 plus your extra £200 you weren't expecting is a £881 saving. I'm not saying buy the new one but you are talking about paying your mate £10500 and being stuck with a 9 year old renault. He was asking an extra £295 (A couple of weeks in Auto Trader is gonna cost you best part of £80 and someone will want to knock you down on it too) for a new car with little or no mileage or road wear. Based on those numbers and assuming all have the same options I think you'd be silly to buy your mates one too!! There is an age old addage to bear in mind here - Never buy a car from friends or family. It will bite you in the **. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend -** A Patio Last edited by VRStu; 25-05-2005 at 16:29.

25-05-2005, 16:37	#12
Jimmy Briskodian Join Date: May 2003 Location: North East Posts: 2,446 Members Car: Octavia ahem Hearse Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hmmm.... Assuming the year old one is out of the equation. Pre-reg = delivery miles (I assume) so effectively a brand new car and you get rid of the Renault.... all for £10,795 Your mates car (what's the mileage?) for £10,500 I think it's a no brainer really.

25-05-2005, 16:40	#13
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 21,118 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 195 Thanked 1,046 Times in 928 Posts	I think thats the point I, rather long windedly, was trying to make Jimmy. Thank you __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

27-05-2005, 14:09	#17
MikeF Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: north west uk (bury) Posts: 1,336 Members Car: Thanks: 69 Thanked 38 Times in 29 Posts	ebay is the way dont part ex just stick it on ebay, garages are easier to deal with anyway when you arent part x'ing. Anything more than 11600 for a brand new not pre reg black fabia no options and you didnt try hard enough Dont be put off by salesmen there all pushy and just want the cash. Print off a price from one of the internet firms and go in to your dealer and ask what he can do, no part x and 500 quid deposit and i'm sure he wont turn you away

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