Remaps in Ireland

[Dr. Octavia]

Well I had mine done at LogicAutomotive, an upsolute dealer. I figured as everyone has been raving about Impossible Performance and they are an upsolute dealer that this would be a good option, plus it was only €400 and I could go back to standard if not happy.

Had a few problems with my DV though as it can't handle that much boost, it's a Forge DV007p with the green spring, have ordered a yellow one to try that. Was also getting fault code 17705 on Vag Com. However, I pulled the DV apart last night and put it back together and it seemed fine!

The map when my DV holds the boost is brilliant, low end torque is great and it pulls right up to the redline. I'm very pleased with the actual map, it is very smooth. Just haven't been able to enjoy it properly with my dodgy DV.

[booth]

Hi,
I have found more information about Dave Wishart in Kells. His place is called Torquetronix, telephone number (028)25898458. He also has a website:- www.torquetronix.com

[techi]

I might be able to help guyz, bought the gear and have modded my own, and works very well.

[techi]

I'm based in meath but commute to dublin mon-fri

[kildarers]

i have had my rs remapped by westward in enfield for the last 6 months and it still puts a smile on my face every time i drive it . approx 215 - 220 bhp with k&n filters ,still to get it on a rolling road , highly recommended but a heavy right foot will mean big fuel bills.

[kildarers]

just to let you know that my car was out of warrenty when i got it remaped !

[bpm]

Originally Posted by kildarers

i have had my rs remapped by westward in enfield for the last 6 months and it still puts a smile on my face every time i drive it . approx 215 - 220 bhp with k&n filters ,still to get it on a rolling road , highly recommended but a heavy right foot will mean big fuel bills.

I presume it was a revo remap on it then? Do you get worse fuel consumption after the remap? Mine seemed to be better after it.

I'd avoid the rolling road in Westward, as mine gave 190bhp from standard, and 5 months later got it done again in Jabba and it was 169bhp. (Both were rolled just after a service and were on the same set of tires)

[Smithy vRS]

Originally Posted by kildarers

i have had my rs remapped by westward in enfield for the last 6 months and it still puts a smile on my face every time i drive it . approx 215 - 220 bhp with k&n filters ,still to get it on a rolling road , highly recommended but a heavy right foot will mean big fuel bills.

To be honest you may get to see 215 on a good day! I think Revo used to say you would get 212 for their stage 1 remap on a standard car but have changed this to 207! http://www.revotechnik.com/products/....aspx?pvID=236

[Smithy vRS]

@ BPM Martins RR is spot on there are many things you have to take into account when on a RR, When you had your car in Jabba had you just driven from Ireland? If so there would of been a lot of heat soakage killing power like when we had are RR in Westward and my car got low reading mainly cause i was first on the rollers!

[bpm]

Originally Posted by Smithy vRS

@ BPM Martins RR is spot on there are many things you have to take into account when on a RR, When you had your car in Jabba had you just driven from Ireland? If so there would of been a lot of heat soakage killing power like when we had are RR in Westward and my car got low reading mainly cause i was first on the rollers!

Nah the car was cold as I had stayed nearby the night before. I'd like to get mine done again in Martins , just to compare the readings..

I've nothing against the man, but I've heard the stories going around and have heard from people directly involved in work being done on their cars and they've had troubles after they came back to him. I do know that he is very good on the old 80s-90s cars for tuning and would recommend him for that.

Have you had your car rolled on anyone else road Smithy? If so how did it compare?

[fivepint@work]

I had mine recently RR'd at Martins, ambient temps around 16oc, car was run approx 15 mins after arriving on a 50min approx run from Dublin, she put out 177bhp and 190 lbft torque, now the torque is up on factory and the bhp is within tolernances which i was happy with but the main reason i wanted RR'd was to see how she ran, fueling afr etc... martin was able to inform me the she was overfueling high up which may account for the drop in the torque higher in the rev range, I put this down to the adaption in VAG ecus which I have found more notciable than in most cars, my trundle to work is mainly single lane backroads with is a majority 2/3 gear max 4-5k revs... no red lining IYSWIM

i wouldnt be swayed by one set of RR figures over another as they will always vary, its inevitable...

and as any business will tell you there a good custoners and bad and ALL tuners will have some stories both negative and positive about them, all I can say is from my personal experience with Martin he has always instilled confidence in me with his advice on tuning on various motors from Subaru to Peugeot to VAG, he also remaps all the ECUs in the punto race series (probably irelands most contested championship)

the only other RR i have experienced in Ireland is the one at Triple7 up norf, that was a whole other story and was quickly abandoned when the operator pointed an excuse for a hairdryer at the car (not the skud) in order to simulate airflow!


And as an aside, be wary of informing the BBS public if you're car has been RR'd (within warranty) when my gearbox failed completely at 35K one question that kept coming up was if it had been on a RR, at that time it hadnt thankfully still doesnt explain why it happend though!!


just my 2ps worth

[fivepint@work]

oh yeah on another point about what bhp to expect from remaps etc, i have couple of points to discuss

1) Skoda quote 180 bhp on premium fuel, ie: not 95 ron (dunno bout the rest of ye but mine is run on this and it will lower figures and thats that)

2) German tuners are prob the most honest due to requiring TUV approval for mods, I'll point ye to the MTM site where a basic remap will see 195bhp, remap and exhaust will break 200bhp etc...

http://www.mtm-online.de/en/index.php?nav=3&marke=SK

Im not knocking revo, jabba or any UK tuners I'm not even disputing the various RRs but all these figures need to be taken with a pinch of salt untill there is an independent form of authentication IMHO

as long as you can feel an improvement in your car then be happy

[Smithy vRS]

Originally Posted by fivepint@work

Martin he has always instilled confidence in me with his advice on tuning on various motors from Subaru to Peugeot to VAG, he also remaps all the ECUs in the punto race series (probably irelands most contested championship)

I was stud there when he did the punto's as i worked for Steve then who built the first prototype car!

@BPM haven’t had the car done since the last run have been meaning to cause I have a few more bits fitted! Would like to see 230+bhp & 260+ lbft torque

RR Day coming up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Standard 178.5bhp 220 lbft torque 95RON

REVO and KnN 198.6bhp 245 lbft torque 95RON and octane booster

[bpm]

Originally Posted by Smithy vRS

I was stud there when he did the punto's as i worked for Steve then who built the first prototype car!

@BPM haven’t had the car done since the last run have been meaning to cause I have a few more bits fitted! Would like to see 230+bhp & 260+ lbft torque

RR Day coming up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds like an excuse for the next meet! I'd like to see that...Your yoke was an animal on the rollers last time, I was surprised that mine was almost as good! Ever think of bringing it on track?

I know there's a Charity track day coming up on June 25th in Kirkstown..

[GAFF]

I'm no expert but I'd have to take some of the figures with a pinch of salt. After seeing a certain diesel one done, with a Westward tuning box then a different manufacturers map, there was a big difference on the same rollers. I kinda get the impression you could get the rollers to tell you whatever you want to hear.

Martin has a good name over here but in fairness theres been no real competition to compare rollers. I'm not knocking it but how do you really know. Just my 2cents worth

[fivepint@work]

agree, thats the point you never will know, even tyre pressures can vary the result...

its an age old argument in that whose RR is better or more accurate on car forums across the globe

look at the differences EVO mag got on a purely fuel related change, even the same fuel (Optimax) from the same station at different times seemed to give different power outputs

RRs are only good for mapping and for measuring afr etc under load they are great for reproducing problems only felt on the road under load....

agree also on the pinch of salt hence the MTM link at least they have a goverment body to satisfy unlike any of the tuners here or the UK and their figures look more reasonable too

[kit]

hi all

Having read a few of your posts i just thought id share with you what martin at westward told me: that is that none of the major remappers even the Revo that he does will top 200bhp!!! he says all the figures that are quoted by remappers are just way out!!! they all give big bhp figures and smaller torque figures,he says this is a fall back to when everybody thought that the only figure worth bragging about was bhp!!! Mine only made 198bhp but made 256lbs torque!!! the remapper quoted figures of 212bhp and 220lbs torque!!! martin also showed me how the rollers can give different figures each time: he just turned down the temp down by 1 degree on the fan and the bhp fell by 5.

kit

[Smithy vRS]

Originally Posted by bpm

I know there's a Charity track day coming up on June 25th in Kirkstown..

Yeah wonna get it out at some stage, never been up there what’s the track like? Car is ready for it now with everything done! Am planning to head to the ring at the end of the summer!

With RR figures thats why i prefer martin he doesn't bull**** you with big bhp just the real facts!



Rolling Road Day 2006

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/irish...06/#post618784

[fivepint@work]

Kirkistown is a nice track, the times I've been its alot quieter than Mondello so more track time too... much flatter as well, wind can be a factor as its quite exposed but its a nice combo of turns with two longish straights

have a gander at http://www.trackskills.com/

[bpm]

Originally Posted by Smithy vRS

Yeah wonna get it out at some stage, never been up there what’s the track like? Car is ready for it now with everything done! Am planning to head to the ring at the end of the summer!

With RR figures thats why i prefer martin he doesn't bull**** you with big bhp just the real facts!



Rolling Road Day 2006

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/irish...06/#post618784

I'm heading up to Kirko on June 25th with some of the boys.... The first Irish tracktime for the hearse