1.4 16v Help

Turbo_Boss · 15-07-2003, 22:30

Hey guys, I want to help a co-worker that have a 2003 VW Polo with 1.4 16 valve engines. The car has automatic transmision.

So you people outhere with Fabias that have this same engine what can be done so this car has a better start up power.

When he is in a stop light an push the throttle pedal to the floor the car take and eternity to develop velocity............He wants to have a better start up.

Is there is a chip o something else for this engine?

THX,

Isaac

big k · 15-07-2003, 22:40

afriad that will be the 2004 eu emmisions thingy delay between putting foot to floor and engine responding

***DGW*** · 15-07-2003, 22:40

The UK spec Fabia 1.4 16v Auto has a 75bhp engine which gives a 0-62mph (0-100kph) time of 17 seconds. There is also a 100bhp version of the same engine fitted to the Fabia with manual transmission, giving a 0-62mph time of 11.5 seconds. I wonder if the difference in power output is due to a different ECU, or whether there are mechanical differences between the two engines. Perhaps big k can advise.

big k · 15-07-2003, 22:54

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Originally posted by DGW in this post
The UK spec Fabia 1.4 16v Auto has a 75bhp engine which gives a 0-62mph (0-100kph) time of 17 seconds. There is also a 100bhp version of the same engine fitted to the Fabia with manual transmission, giving a 0-62mph time of 11.5 seconds. I wonder if the difference in power output is due to a different ECU, or whether there are mechanical differences between the two engines. Perhaps big k can advise.

afaik the two engines are the same but have different strokes (me awaits lots of jokes about that one).

big k · 15-07-2003, 23:02

btw the fabia saloon auto and manual have the 75bhp engines fitted to them.

flyingscot · 15-07-2003, 23:51

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Originally posted by big k in this post
afriad that will be the 2004 eu emmisions thingy delay between putting foot to floor and engine responding

Do you remember that was the exuse for the poor throttle response of the test Skodas! They accused the EU rules saying that was why it was a bit mushy and had people questioning whetehr BMW throttles would be like that inthe future! That one only really affected V-reg cars, and was so silly!

Turbo_Boss · 16-07-2003, 02:30

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Originally posted by DGW in this post
The UK spec Fabia 1.4 16v Auto has a 75bhp engine which gives a 0-62mph (0-100kph) time of 17 seconds. There is also a 100bhp version of the same engine fitted to the Fabia with manual transmission, giving a 0-62mph time of 11.5 seconds. I wonder if the difference in power output is due to a different ECU, or whether there are mechanical differences between the two engines. Perhaps big k can advise.

My friend says his Polo 1.4 16V has 100HP.............

So is there any possible MOD for this turttle?

Isaac

Stimps · 16-07-2003, 11:15

I suppose you could go down the route of induction kit and sports exhaust, etc.

You might be able to get it chipped, but TBH the increase in power would probably be very tiny, and cost £100s!

**robmawer** · 16-07-2003, 11:21

Well...if the lag is a computer-induced delay between pressing the accelerator and fuel being delivered
to the engine, I'd imagine some ECU-based remap could overcome this. Would cost a lot and would
have small gains in terms of power, but could well improve throttle response.

Unless the lag is induced some other way...

Rob.

Stimps · 16-07-2003, 11:31

My manual fabia (1.4 16v petrol) has a slight lag between pressing the accelerator and anything happening - very easy to stall it until you get used to it

Would love to reduce that lag, but not if it meant paying for a remap/chip.

Big K - is this 'lag' dealer adjustable in any way?

devonutopia · 16-07-2003, 11:39

I've always been quite impressed with the 1000RPM to 5000RPM speed whilst not in gear. By the time my foot hits the floor it's pretty much past 3000RPM. I'll have to time the tickover to redline speed sometime, but I would hazard a guess at less than one second?

Does the 1.4 16V automatic polo have the 75bhp engine too? That may explain the restriction compared to the 100bhp 16V engine, which I assume must be quicker to the redline to gain the extra 25bhp. I'll leave it to bigK to say "Jason, you're wrong, and you're a fool!"

***DGW*** · 16-07-2003, 12:07

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Originally posted by big k in this post
btw the fabia saloon auto and manual have the 75bhp engines fitted to them.

Trust me to believe what it says in the the 2003 Fabia brochure....

big k · 16-07-2003, 20:36

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Originally posted by Stimps in this post
My manual fabia (1.4 16v petrol) has a slight lag between pressing the accelerator and anything happening - very easy to stall it until you get used to it

Would love to reduce that lag, but not if it meant paying for a remap/chip.

Big K - is this 'lag' dealer adjustable in any way?

not to my knowledge they are a bit of a pain in the back side you either stall of slip the clutch funny really because the 8v doesn't seem to suffer from this.

Stimps · 16-07-2003, 20:39

Took a while to get used to, that's for sure

Dmac1969vRS · 16-07-2003, 20:44

Wont any gains simply be gobbled up by the auto box?

Stimps · 16-07-2003, 20:52

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Originally posted by Dmac1969vRS in this post
Wont any gains simply be gobbled up by the auto box?

Probably!

My original reply was going to be along the lines of "trade it in for an RS"

15-07-2003, 22:30	#1
Turbo_Boss Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Panama Republic of Panama Posts: 307 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 3 Posts	1.4 16v Help Hey guys, I want to help a co-worker that have a 2003 VW Polo with 1.4 16 valve engines. The car has automatic transmision. So you people outhere with Fabias that have this same engine what can be done so this car has a better start up power. When he is in a stop light an push the throttle pedal to the floor the car take and eternity to develop velocity............He wants to have a better start up. Is there is a chip o something else for this engine? THX, Isaac

15-07-2003, 22:40	#2
big k Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: u.k Posts: 1,215 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	afriad that will be the 2004 eu emmisions thingy delay between putting foot to floor and engine responding __________________ how can me find a jet engine for me rapid ?

15-07-2003, 22:40	#3
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,035 Thanks: 45 Thanked 153 Times in 115 Posts	The UK spec Fabia 1.4 16v Auto has a 75bhp engine which gives a 0-62mph (0-100kph) time of 17 seconds. There is also a 100bhp version of the same engine fitted to the Fabia with manual transmission, giving a 0-62mph time of 11.5 seconds. I wonder if the difference in power output is due to a different ECU, or whether there are mechanical differences between the two engines. Perhaps big k can advise. __________________ Denis 2002 Octavia 1.8T 4X4 turbo Estate - rebreathed on by Jabba ... 31.93mpg 2007 Fabia vRS - CC, ESP, Jabba rear ARB, and full leather trim by Seat Surgeons ...48.01 mpg...

15-07-2003, 23:02	#5
big k Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: u.k Posts: 1,215 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	btw the fabia saloon auto and manual have the 75bhp engines fitted to them. __________________ how can me find a jet engine for me rapid ?

16-07-2003, 11:15	#8
Stimps Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Colchester Posts: 5,091 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I suppose you could go down the route of induction kit and sports exhaust, etc. You might be able to get it chipped, but TBH the increase in power would probably be very tiny, and cost £100s! __________________ Steve « Nature Green 1.4 16v Fabia Comfort »

16-07-2003, 11:21	#9
robmawer Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Rochdale Posts: 12,389 Thanks: 2 Thanked 65 Times in 58 Posts	Well...if the lag is a computer-induced delay between pressing the accelerator and fuel being delivered to the engine, I'd imagine some ECU-based remap could overcome this. Would cost a lot and would have small gains in terms of power, but could well improve throttle response. Unless the lag is induced some other way... Rob. __________________

16-07-2003, 11:31	#10
Stimps Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Colchester Posts: 5,091 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My manual fabia (1.4 16v petrol) has a slight lag between pressing the accelerator and anything happening - very easy to stall it until you get used to it Would love to reduce that lag, but not if it meant paying for a remap/chip. Big K - is this 'lag' dealer adjustable in any way? __________________ Steve « Nature Green 1.4 16v Fabia Comfort »

16-07-2003, 11:39	#11
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ooo-ar, Oi be from Devonshire Posts: 29,200 Thanks: 60 Thanked 288 Times in 234 Posts	I've always been quite impressed with the 1000RPM to 5000RPM speed whilst not in gear. By the time my foot hits the floor it's pretty much past 3000RPM. I'll have to time the tickover to redline speed sometime, but I would hazard a guess at less than one second? Does the 1.4 16V automatic polo have the 75bhp engine too? That may explain the restriction compared to the 100bhp 16V engine, which I assume must be quicker to the redline to gain the extra 25bhp. I'll leave it to bigK to say "Jason, you're wrong, and you're a fool!" __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

16-07-2003, 20:39	#14
Stimps Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Colchester Posts: 5,091 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Took a while to get used to, that's for sure __________________ Steve « Nature Green 1.4 16v Fabia Comfort »

16-07-2003, 20:44	#15
Dmac1969vRS Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,160 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Wont any gains simply be gobbled up by the auto box?

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