Welcome to the BRISKODA.net

, the world's largest Skoda owners and enthusiasts community. We focus on offering friendly advice, support and a dash of social activty.

We invite you to particpate too! By registering today you can participate in our active and growing community. Registration on the forum is free and simple, it enables you to post new messages, search and much more.

  • Membership of Skoda owners from over 75 countries.
  • Experienced advice from the community.
  • Local and national social events

Go Back   BRISKODA - The Skoda Forum and Community > General Motoring Discussions > Maintenance & Performance
Maintenance & Performance This section is for all technical, tuning and modification questions by model as appropriate. Ask a Tech is available for Freedom members to seek advice from a Skoda expert.


Find out about Freedom to remove these ads.

Reply

 

LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes

2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear
Old 14-04-2008, 20:12   #1
BRISKODA Staff
 
Makefish's Avatar
 
Makefish is offline
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 7,666
Thanks: 142
Thanked 217 Times in 164 Posts
Car: Black Octavia (200+)
Default 2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear

For those of you running modified MkII Octavia vRS's you will no doubt be aware there is a modified high pressure fuel pump or fuel pump internals available to eliminate a common issue known as 'fuel cut'. There have been some reports, mainly from USA that as a result of installing this revised pump excessive wear on the cam follower (a small 'bucket' which sits between fuel pump piston and cam) resulting in catastrophic failure of both cam and pump and therefore an expensive repair bill!

Today we removed and replaced mine to see what the effects have been running the new fuel pump for the past three months and approximately 6,000 miles with the uprated pump (24,000miles in total ie. 18,000miles with OEM fuel pump internals). The following pictures show that wear has thankfully been minimal to the point of being almost perfect which is very good news for those of you who have installed this upgrade, the only noticable wear is on the inside where the piston touches but this could be seen as normal although atm we do not have anything to compare it with (if you are considering this modification it would be helpful to see pics of the cam follower from a stanadard car before replacement).

The conclusion mainly drawn from this would be to regularly inspect the cam follower for signs of excessive wear and keep a replacement 'just in case' as these are a lot cheaper to replace than the consequences of possible failure!



__________________
Next Briskoda National Event: TRAX 2008 - 7th September at Silverstone
Black magic Octy II vRS MY2008 with Maxidot ~ Xenons ~ Cruise ~ Light Assist ~ Dual Zone Climate Control ~ Rain Sensing Wipers ~ MFD2 Satellite Navigation ~ VAG Bluetooth Phone Kit ~ Milltek Exhaust with 2.75" Downpipe ~ EVOM Ram Air Intake ~ Nuespeed Shortshifter ~ Eibach Rear ARB ~ Koni FSD Dampers ~ Eibach Springs ~ Forge Front Mounted Twintercooler ~ Nuespeed Hi-Flo Intercooler Pipe ~ Nuespeed Hi-Flo Turbo Outlet Pipe ~ Eurojet PCV Valve ~ Forge DV ~Autotech Hi Volume Fuel Pump ~ Nuespeed Torque Arm Insert ~ NGK Iridium Spark plugs ~ REVO Stage II+ Software ~ Matt Black Viper Stripes!

Last edited by Makefish : 14-04-2008 at 20:20.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote

Re: 2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear
Old 14-04-2008, 20:18   #2
Briskodaholic
 
Tom_vRS's Avatar
 
Tom_vRS is online now
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire
Posts: 10,394
Thanks: 527
Thanked 339 Times in 232 Posts
Car: Silver Mondeo (170bhp)
Default Re: 2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear

This is certainly a relief Steve, but I'm reluctant to say that we can no be complacent!!

I think 5k inspections would be prudent, and at under £20 each, maybe replace every 15k or so to be safe!

Have to say though, I'm pleased to see such little wear, very encouraging!!
__________________
99/S Ford Mondeo Ghia-X 2.5 V6 in silver. 112k miles

 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote

Re: 2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear
Old 14-04-2008, 20:21   #3
Briskoda Staff
 
VRStu's Avatar
 
VRStu is online now
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 18,754
Thanks: 66
Thanked 762 Times in 690 Posts
Car: Race Blue Octavia (Approximately 200bhp)
Default Re: 2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear

Inspection is a 15 minute job on the later cars with 1 rubber and 1 steel pipe, slightly longer for the 2 steel pipe models.
__________________
Stu - Freedom Pimp

Why not take a look in the Member Services Section

Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com

Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Skoda MFD3 Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote

Re: 2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear
Old 14-04-2008, 20:27   #4
Briskodian
 
Superted's Avatar
 
Superted is offline
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: South
Posts: 402
Thanks: 0
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Car: Black Octavia ()
Default Re: 2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear

Quote:
Originally Posted by VRStu View Post
Inspection is a 15 minute job on the later cars with 1 rubber and 1 steel pipe, slightly longer for the 2 steel pipe models.
Tis true..........Slightly longer for older versions...
__________________
cheeRS:
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote

Re: 2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear
Old 14-04-2008, 20:32   #5
Briskodian
 
Harry_vRS's Avatar
 
Harry_vRS is offline
Join Date: May 2005
Location: North
Posts: 1,897
Thanks: 13
Thanked 37 Times in 29 Posts
Car: Silver Octavia (200)
Default Re: 2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear

I've done a good 3k since having installed my HPFP and have had no issues so far.

The lack of wear is encouraging though Steve.
__________________

| Silver Octavia v/RS Mk2 | 18" Alloys | Dual Zone Climatronic | Xenons |
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote

Re: 2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear
Old 14-04-2008, 20:43   #6
Mongreller
 
devonutopia's Avatar
 
devonutopia is online now
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Ooo-ar, Oi be from Devonshire
Posts: 28,304
Thanks: 46
Thanked 246 Times in 198 Posts
Car: SILVER Fabia (260bhp 370 lb/ft)
Default Re: 2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear

You should have seen my tappets....
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote

Re: 2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear
Old 14-04-2008, 21:11   #7
Briskodian
 
Harry_vRS's Avatar
 
Harry_vRS is offline
Join Date: May 2005
Location: North
Posts: 1,897
Thanks: 13
Thanked 37 Times in 29 Posts
Car: Silver Octavia (200)
Default Re: 2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear

Did you also check the actual cam whilst you were at it? How was that fairing up?
__________________

| Silver Octavia v/RS Mk2 | 18" Alloys | Dual Zone Climatronic | Xenons |
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote

Re: 2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear
Old 15-04-2008, 07:45   #8
K04 Equipped
 
sibart's Avatar
 
sibart is offline
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: gloucestershire
Posts: 205
Thanks: 19
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Car: Silver Octavia (200 +? BHP)
Default Re: 2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear

Good to see Steve, Jkm i see, did you manage to keep your wallet in your pocket
__________________
Car: Factory freebies, JKM Performance K04 Turbo Upgrade, JKM Performance BIG Brake Upgrade, Koni / Eibach Suspension, Eibach ARB's, Revo Map, KMD fuel pump, Columbus toy+ BT Kit(cheers Stu) ,light assist, maxidot,rear park sensors,cruise control.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote

Re: 2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear
Old 15-04-2008, 08:32   #9
Briskodian
 
FocusZtec's Avatar
 
FocusZtec is offline
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: North London
Posts: 666
Thanks: 10
Thanked 20 Times in 19 Posts
Default Re: 2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear

Great report Steve - as its on my 'post warranty to do list' its a very interesting read for me.

Most of the US based forums also seem to be saying it should be inspected every 5-6k miles.

Lee
__________________
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/FocusZtec/neiloctypipersignature.jpg
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote

Re: 2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear
Old 15-04-2008, 09:14   #10
Briskoda Staff
 
VRStu's Avatar
 
VRStu is online now
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 18,754
Thanks: 66
Thanked 762 Times in 690 Posts
Car: Race Blue Octavia (Approximately 200bhp)
Default Re: 2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear

An routine replacement at circa 7k - 10K miles is perfectly acceptable IMHO. If you play with these things then you have to be prepared to pay the price and at around £20 it shouldn't break the bank.
__________________
Stu - Freedom Pimp

Why not take a look in the Member Services Section

Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com

Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Skoda MFD3 Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote

Re: 2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear
Old 15-04-2008, 13:41   #11
Briskodian
 
Micky 32 is offline
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Longford, Ireland
Posts: 306
Thanks: 7
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default Re: 2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear

Thought it might only effect the earlier engines. Haven't the newer engines a revised camshaft? Using the longlife oil might help too as it has an additive for the PD engines for higher stresses on their cams.
__________________
2008 Race blue 2.0 TFSI vRS, xenons, jumbo box, dual zone, rear electric windows, maxidot, rain sensing wipers and dimming mirror, light assist, rear parking sensors, cruise control, ESP and anti wet ars!e feature....
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote

Re: 2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear
Old 15-04-2008, 14:01   #12
Briskoda Staff
 
VRStu's Avatar
 
VRStu is online now
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 18,754
Thanks: 66
Thanked 762 Times in 690 Posts
Car: Race Blue Octavia (Approximately 200bhp)
Default Re: 2.0TFSI Uprated Fuel Pump & Cam Follower Wear

The initial problem was that the cam shaft lobe was too soft, this was 'fixed' with the introduction of a revised 2 part cam. Something else that has now started to fail, both in stock fuel pump equipped and High Flow pump equipped cars is the cam follower pictured above.
__________________
Stu - Freedom Pimp

Why not take a look in the Member Services Section

Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com

Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Skoda MFD3 Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 16:36.

vBulletin skin developed by: eXtremepixels
| Home | Register | FAQ | Members List | Calendar | Today's Posts | Search | New Posts |
Website © 2003-2007 BRISKODA.net
Disclaimer: This is not an official SKODA site and is not affiliated to SKODA in any way. Visit the Official SKODA Website.
Views and opinions are given by the poster and do not reflect the views of BRISKODA.net nor SKODA.
All trademarks and copyrights remain property of their respective owners.

PLEASE NOTE - PERSONAL ABUSE, ABUSE AGAINST THIS OR ANY OTHER WEBSITE OR ANY COMPANY WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. OFFENDERS WILL BE MODERATED OR EVEN BANNED.

BRISKODA.net is operated by Summit 360 Ltd


Ad Management by RedTyger

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.1.0

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99