Amd, Apr, Revo, Superchips Etc

***DGW*** · 27-09-2003, 14:02

Members who have had their cars Jabba'd will know their cars' before and after figures from the dyno runs. But how about those members who have had their cars chipped or programmed with off the shelf programmes? Did any of you have your cars checked on a dyno before and/or after tuning and, if so, do the power/torque figures achieved match those claimed by the manufacturers? Or are some of you just hoping that your cars achieve the figures, eg 210bhp, claimed for whatever tuning package was installed? This question is directed at those who have had standard engines tuned, ie standard air filter, exhaust, N75 etc (but not necessarily DV).

Huck · 27-09-2003, 15:38

didn't ever get my RS RR'ed after it was chipped by APR. Driving with other cars, in optimax mode (98RON), it *easily* felt 220+bhp on the butt dyno.

don't intend to get the next RS dynoed unless something doesn't feel right. (or until such time that i convince myself to get a jabba IHI conversion)

**delcac** · 27-09-2003, 16:24

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Originally posted by Huck in this post
or until such time that i convince myself to get a jabba IHI conversion)

You know it makes sense.

Des

rich1068 · 27-09-2003, 17:21

I agree with Huck, it just 'feels' right but I intend to get some definitive numbers off David when he's back off his jollies.

For some reason I feel I ought to have that piece of paper. Mainly because the Jabbabunnies have all got one.

MonkeyHanger · 27-09-2003, 17:29

Rich,

Get it on a Dyno, and don't be scared to post the results, unlike some people we know

I think the general consensus is something like..

Jabbasport: Tried, Tested, Trusted and Proven.

APR: Pretty much as per Jabba (I'm sure there's 1 or 2 members who can vouch for them)

Revo: Look on SeatCupra.net, they all rave about it.

Superchips....hmmm personally i dont know much about them, but i have heard allegations of exaggerated performance claims.

rich1068 · 27-09-2003, 22:15

My RS is more responsive, more flexible, fuel economy is better and mid/top end torque continues to push it along like a steam train.

David never made any exaggerated claims ie for a technical moron like me he explained it thus, 'Your car will be better'. Fair enough I thought

I've said before that it would have been nice to go with everyone else's recommendation, Jabba, but it's David's car so he calls the shots. I'm tempted to ask if I could have a go in someones Jabbalicious RS but...

***DGW*** · 28-09-2003, 12:34

Quote:

Originally posted by MonkeyHanger in this post
Get it on a Dyno, and don't be scared to post the results, unlike some people we know

Who are???

Quote:

Originally posted by DGW in this post
Apparently the standard 4X4 is more tuneable than the standard vRS. Something to do with the exhaust being more free-flowing... PS And I think that applies to the 4X4 Estate rather than the Hatch...

The Power Report Test figures for my car are as follows:

Engine Power:......169.6 kW (230.4 Cv) a 6326 RPM (181.3 Km/h)
Engine Power ref:...121.1 kW (164.6 Cv) a 6028 RPM (172.7 Km/h)
Wheel Power:........135.2 kW (183.7 Cv)
Dissipate Power:......34.4 kW (46.7 Cv)
Rule Power:...........173.5 kW (235.7 Cv) [DIN 70020 Rule]

Max Couple:.........338.9 Nm a 3370 g/m (96.6 Km/h)
Max Couple ref:......231.0 Nm a 2695 RPM (77.2 Km/h)

Max Speed:..........6842 RPM (196.1 Km/h)
Max Speed ref:.......6615 RPM (189.6 Km/h)

Atmospheric Pressure: 997 mbar
Air Temperature: 24°C
Wheel Diameter: 631.0 mm
Transmission ratio: 1.0 : 1
Final reduction: 4.2
Tire size: 205/55-16

These figures are for a standard unmodified car with the original exhaust, N75, DV and air filter, ie all the powers gains have come from the Jabba remap. Fuel used was 97RON not Optimax. QED.

MonkeyHanger · 28-09-2003, 15:31

The fish are biting today...

**delcac** · 28-09-2003, 16:28

Still can't see a gragh can you Geoff, must be my eye sight.

Des

MonkeyHanger · 28-09-2003, 17:16

Indeed Des,

I see no plot whatsoever, maybe we should have gone to SpecSavers ?

***DGW*** · 28-09-2003, 17:50

So far we apparently have no members with off the shelf remaps/chips who actually know the power/torque increase from having their cars tuned? Can this be true? (Those with non-standard exhausts, FMICs etc need not reply).

**delcac** · 28-09-2003, 19:45

Quote:

Originally posted by MonkeyHanger in this post
Indeed Des,

I see no plot whatsoever, maybe we should have gone to SpecSavers ?

Still can't see a graph m8, course I could just ignore everyone but then modded cars are not allowed to post are they.

Des

rich1068 · 28-09-2003, 20:05

Give me a chance Denis! He's not back at work until Monday.

Get him with his 'off the shelf'! It wasn't too long ago you poo poo'd the whole topic.

Now he's got a dynamic blue Bailey DV you can't shut him up!

MonkeyHanger · 28-09-2003, 20:18

Rich has requested that i post his Dyno plot (Superchips re-map) for him as he isnt familiar with resizing & attachments etc

So, here it is...

**delcac** · 28-09-2003, 20:27

The Torquester will be after you.

Des

MonkeyHanger · 28-09-2003, 20:29

Quote:

Originally posted by delcac in this post

The Torquester will be after you.

Des

He won't catch me, 4 wheel drive saps too much of his power ya know

Huck · 28-09-2003, 21:04

Quote:

Originally posted by rich1068 in this post

Get him with his 'off the shelf'! It wasn't too long ago you poo poo'd the whole topic.

Now he's got a dynamic blue Bailey DV you can't shut him up!

rich1068 · 28-09-2003, 21:12

Cheers Geoff.

So now you all know. Beware the power of the Superchip! Strangely, power and speed seem to be in direct correlation to stereo volume as you poor Jabbachappies are now aware.

Back on topic, this is an interesting thread and I will do my utmost to get 'numbers'. Like Denis I'd be interested to hear from anyone who's had Revo etc.

Huck · 28-09-2003, 21:20

imho not too bothered if it does the business on the road and compares favourably with known quantities.

however........(!),

if someone knows a reputable place with an accurate RR around manchester/stockport, then i may get it done when the car's got a few thousand miles on it, or i've done something like an IHI conversion.

rich1068 · 28-09-2003, 21:25

At the risk of agreeing with you again Huck...!

27-09-2003, 14:02	#1
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,119 Thanks: 48 Thanked 166 Times in 123 Posts	AMD, APR, REVO, Superchips Etc Members who have had their cars Jabba'd will know their cars' before and after figures from the dyno runs. But how about those members who have had their cars chipped or programmed with off the shelf programmes? Did any of you have your cars checked on a dyno before and/or after tuning and, if so, do the power/torque figures achieved match those claimed by the manufacturers? Or are some of you just hoping that your cars achieve the figures, eg 210bhp, claimed for whatever tuning package was installed? This question is directed at those who have had standard engines tuned, ie standard air filter, exhaust, N75 etc (but not necessarily DV). __________________ Denis 2002 Octavia 1.8T 4X4 turbo Estate - rebreathed on by Jabba ... 31.93mpg 2007 Fabia vRS - CC, ESP and full leather trim by Seat Surgeons ...48.09 mpg...

27-09-2003, 15:38	#2
Huck Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NW England Posts: 2,277 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	didn't ever get my RS RR'ed after it was chipped by APR. Driving with other cars, in optimax mode (98RON), it easily felt 220+bhp on the butt dyno. don't intend to get the next RS dynoed unless something doesn't feel right. (or until such time that i convince myself to get a jabba IHI conversion) __________________ Huck B.

27-09-2003, 17:21	#4
rich1068 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: North Posts: 2,709 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I agree with Huck, it just 'feels' right but I intend to get some definitive numbers off David when he's back off his jollies. For some reason I feel I ought to have that piece of paper. Mainly because the Jabbabunnies have all got one. __________________ Rich. Skoda Octavia RS

27-09-2003, 22:15	#6
rich1068 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: North Posts: 2,709 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My RS is more responsive, more flexible, fuel economy is better and mid/top end torque continues to push it along like a steam train. David never made any exaggerated claims ie for a technical moron like me he explained it thus, 'Your car will be better'. Fair enough I thought I've said before that it would have been nice to go with everyone else's recommendation, Jabba, but it's David's car so he calls the shots. I'm tempted to ask if I could have a go in someones Jabbalicious RS but... __________________ Rich. Skoda Octavia RS

28-09-2003, 16:28	#9
delcac Still a **** Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Chatham, Kent Posts: 7,260 Thanks: 16 Thanked 69 Times in 54 Posts	Still can't see a gragh can you Geoff, must be my eye sight. Des __________________ The Red Devil

27-09-2003, 17:29	#5
MonkeyHanger BANNED Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Anywhere but here Posts: 8,781 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Rich, Get it on a Dyno, and don't be scared to post the results, unlike some people we know I think the general consensus is something like.. Jabbasport: Tried, Tested, Trusted and Proven. APR: Pretty much as per Jabba (I'm sure there's 1 or 2 members who can vouch for them) Revo: Look on SeatCupra.net, they all rave about it. Superchips....hmmm personally i dont know much about them, but i have heard allegations of exaggerated performance claims.

28-09-2003, 15:31	#8
MonkeyHanger BANNED Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Anywhere but here Posts: 8,781 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The fish are biting today...

28-09-2003, 17:16	#10
MonkeyHanger BANNED Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Anywhere but here Posts: 8,781 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Indeed Des, I see no plot whatsoever, maybe we should have gone to SpecSavers ?

28-09-2003, 17:50	#11
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,119 Thanks: 48 Thanked 166 Times in 123 Posts	So far we apparently have no members with off the shelf remaps/chips who actually know the power/torque increase from having their cars tuned? Can this be true? (Those with non-standard exhausts, FMICs etc need not reply). __________________ Denis 2002 Octavia 1.8T 4X4 turbo Estate - rebreathed on by Jabba ... 31.93mpg 2007 Fabia vRS - CC, ESP and full leather trim by Seat Surgeons ...48.09 mpg...

28-09-2003, 20:05	#13
rich1068 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: North Posts: 2,709 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Give me a chance Denis! He's not back at work until Monday. Get him with his 'off the shelf'! It wasn't too long ago you poo poo'd the whole topic. Now he's got a dynamic blue Bailey DV you can't shut him up! __________________ Rich. Skoda Octavia RS

28-09-2003, 20:18	#14
MonkeyHanger BANNED Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Anywhere but here Posts: 8,781 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Rich has requested that i post his Dyno plot (Superchips re-map) for him as he isnt familiar with resizing & attachments etc So, here it is...

28-09-2003, 20:27	#15
delcac Still a **** Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Chatham, Kent Posts: 7,260 Thanks: 16 Thanked 69 Times in 54 Posts	The Torquester will be after you. Des __________________ The Red Devil

28-09-2003, 21:12	#18
rich1068 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: North Posts: 2,709 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Cheers Geoff. So now you all know. Beware the power of the Superchip! Strangely, power and speed seem to be in direct correlation to stereo volume as you poor Jabbachappies are now aware. Back on topic, this is an interesting thread and I will do my utmost to get 'numbers'. Like Denis I'd be interested to hear from anyone who's had Revo etc. __________________ Rich. Skoda Octavia RS

28-09-2003, 21:20	#19
Huck Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NW England Posts: 2,277 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	imho not too bothered if it does the business on the road and compares favourably with known quantities. however........(!), if someone knows a reputable place with an accurate RR around manchester/stockport, then i may get it done when the car's got a few thousand miles on it, or i've done something like an IHI conversion. __________________ Huck B.

28-09-2003, 21:25	#20
rich1068 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: North Posts: 2,709 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	At the risk of agreeing with you again Huck...! __________________ Rich. Skoda Octavia RS

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