Difference between 1.9Tdi 105PD VS 130PD

sbfx · 12-02-2008, 18:03

Hi,

I'm trying to understand whats the difference between a 1.9Tdi PD 105Bhp vs 1.9tdi PD 130BHP? I want to know this as I would like to remap my new 1.9tdi PD 105BHP and wanted to achieve the same figures of the 130BHP engine!

Regards,

Satyam.

inexeng · 12-02-2008, 18:29

25 Bhp

jasc1988 · 12-02-2008, 18:40

As above more torque and HP

The VRS will have a 6th gear also - does your 105 tdi??

If you remap a 105 tdi you will get vRS performance

Thats about it

Dr Zoidberg · 12-02-2008, 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbfx

Hi,

I'm trying to understand whats the difference between a 1.9Tdi PD 105Bhp vs 1.9tdi PD 130BHP? I want to know this as I would like to remap my new 1.9tdi PD 105BHP and wanted to achieve the same figures of the 130BHP engine!

Regards,

Satyam.

The PD105 is a slightly newer version of the 1.9 TDI engine than the PD130.
I believe it has a different turbo and injectors as well as some other more minor changes , but if you have it remapped you should get very similar power to a standard PD130.

It obviously won't get you a six speed gearbox as the PD130 came paired with in the Mk1 VRS , but it should be a big improvement to drive.

sbfx · 12-02-2008, 18:49

Thanks for the replies guys, well mine doesn't have a 6th gear, the reason I want to know this is because when I was seeing info about a remap I noticed that the 130PD could be tuned to 160+Bhp whereas the regular 105PD upto 130HP.

I want to know what would I have to do to achieve the same figures as the 130PD! i.e. 160+Bhp.

Regards,

Satyam.

postmanpat · 12-02-2008, 18:56

bigger turbo, uprated injectors?

Dr Zoidberg · 12-02-2008, 18:56

Changing the turbo would be the best place to start , but if you are going to go to that expense and trouble you might want to think about going for a significantly bigger turbo which wouldn't be that much more expensive.

I don't know for certain if the turbo from a PD130 would bolt straight on , but it's quite likely that it would. I'm sure someone will be along soon who knows for sure.

jasc1988 · 12-02-2008, 18:58

Theres a PD130 turbo for sale in the for sale section if it fits

175 notes

bigal rallyred · 12-02-2008, 19:09

Remapping companies claim that you get just above 140bhp from the 105pd so will be better than a standard vrs book figures anyway as I know lots of standard Fabia vrs' have shown more on rollers.

Youcould also change the air filter and exhaust to get closer to the 160bhp you're after.

cheezemonkhai · 13-02-2008, 13:03

WW_VRS has a turbo going and at that price it's a bargain. Would just be a case of sourcing some PD130 injectors then (speak to devonutopia).

Once all of these are fitted it would then be time for a custom remap.

VeeKar · 13-02-2008, 17:07

Shifty had some up for sale not long back too, might be worth a PM?

dervdoctor · 20-02-2008, 23:57

the turbo and injectors are different, also the 105 has the later EDC16 ecu fitted.

our standard re-map gives 35 bhp, but we can get 155 bhp if we do a special file

but the stock clutch will not last long term.

anonymouse · 21-02-2008, 00:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by dervdoctor

but the stock clutch will not last long term.

...and damn decent of you to be honest about this

Good for you.

martzweb · 09-03-2008, 09:40

guys - i have a 105 PD that i just got with 14000 miles on the clock and i live in northern ireland - is the ecu re-map something i can do myself (after paying dervdoctor for files obviously) or does the car need hooked up to diagnostic kit and rolling road ? problem is i dont have a clue who does this sort of thing in NI.

Decron · 09-03-2008, 09:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by martzweb

guys - i have a 105 PD that i just got with 14000 miles on the clock and i live in northern ireland - is the ecu re-map something i can do myself (after paying dervdoctor for files obviously) or does the car need hooked up to diagnostic kit and rolling road ? problem is i dont have a clue who does this sort of thing in NI.

It's not a complicated process however it is best to have someone who knows what they are doing just incase even with a generic remp which is just an upload. There are a few out of the box options such as a Superchips Bluefin (Compatible with the PD 105) and then there is always This

monkey023 · 09-03-2008, 12:51

Heard many good things about the Superchips Bluefin device! Will be getting one soon myself. Provides a good upgrade for the PD105. Also consider a panel filter and pd160 air intake.
Are we sure that the pd130 has different injectors to the pd105? I was led to believe that they are the same! As the injectors would be pretty much ok in terms of handling anything from 90bhp to about 200bhp! Anyone know for sure??

Regards,

Mark

encephalopathy · 09-03-2008, 14:01

@martzweb - whereabouts are you in NI? there are lots of different places in NI that can do remaps, some good, some not so good.

i would use torquetronix in kells if i were to remap mine....very good reputation

Torque Tronix - Welcome to Torque Tronix

robb06210 · 09-03-2008, 14:01

If you're doing it on a budget... PD130 Turbo would do it, and take it one better and get the handling sorted

Of course, if you have money to burn... look up a member named Devonutopia...

monkey023 · 11-03-2008, 16:56

I am now under the impression that the PD105 on the mkII octavia and mkII fabia has the same turbo as some of the Fabia vRS PD130s did. That being the KKK KP39 turbo!
Any confirmation on this?

Mark

sbfx · 26-04-2008, 14:50

Hello Guys,

I have had my car chipped with the Custom Codes remap (Stage One), its been great so far! but would like to know more as to how to achieve 180odd BHP I'm ready to upgrade injectors, turbo, brakes, intercooler and clutch. I would like to know wheres the best place to source and the right part no for my car. I'm from India so I would have to import all the parts.

Hoping you guys can help me on this one.

Best Regards,

Satyam Bachani.

12-02-2008, 18:03	#1
sbfx Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Difference between 1.9Tdi 105PD VS 130PD Hi, I'm trying to understand whats the difference between a 1.9Tdi PD 105Bhp vs 1.9tdi PD 130BHP? I want to know this as I would like to remap my new 1.9tdi PD 105BHP and wanted to achieve the same figures of the 130BHP engine! Regards, Satyam.

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12-02-2008, 18:40	#3
jasc1988 Big Jas Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,668 Thanks: 85 Thanked 102 Times in 99 Posts	Re: Difference between 1.9Tdi 105PD VS 130PD As above more torque and HP The VRS will have a 6th gear also - does your 105 tdi?? If you remap a 105 tdi you will get vRS performance Thats about it __________________

12-02-2008, 18:49	#5
sbfx Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Difference between 1.9Tdi 105PD VS 130PD Thanks for the replies guys, well mine doesn't have a 6th gear, the reason I want to know this is because when I was seeing info about a remap I noticed that the 130PD could be tuned to 160+Bhp whereas the regular 105PD upto 130HP. I want to know what would I have to do to achieve the same figures as the 130PD! i.e. 160+Bhp. Regards, Satyam.

12-02-2008, 18:56	#7
Dr Zoidberg Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: On the back of an AA truck with a failed turbo Posts: 10,551 Thanks: 24 Thanked 186 Times in 137 Posts	Re: Difference between 1.9Tdi 105PD VS 130PD Changing the turbo would be the best place to start , but if you are going to go to that expense and trouble you might want to think about going for a significantly bigger turbo which wouldn't be that much more expensive. I don't know for certain if the turbo from a PD130 would bolt straight on , but it's quite likely that it would. I'm sure someone will be along soon who knows for sure. __________________ Alex "I laugh in the face of danger, then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk

12-02-2008, 18:58	#8
jasc1988 Big Jas Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,668 Thanks: 85 Thanked 102 Times in 99 Posts	Re: Difference between 1.9Tdi 105PD VS 130PD Theres a PD130 turbo for sale in the for sale section if it fits 175 notes __________________

12-02-2008, 19:09	#9
bigal rallyred Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central belt in Scotland Posts: 746 Thanks: 31 Thanked 41 Times in 39 Posts	Re: Difference between 1.9Tdi 105PD VS 130PD Remapping companies claim that you get just above 140bhp from the 105pd so will be better than a standard vrs book figures anyway as I know lots of standard Fabia vrs' have shown more on rollers. Youcould also change the air filter and exhaust to get closer to the 160bhp you're after.

13-02-2008, 13:03	#10
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 14,734 Thanks: 91 Thanked 412 Times in 383 Posts	Re: Difference between 1.9Tdi 105PD VS 130PD WW_VRS has a turbo going and at that price it's a bargain. Would just be a case of sourcing some PD130 injectors then (speak to devonutopia). Once all of these are fitted it would then be time for a custom remap. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

13-02-2008, 17:07	#11
VeeKar Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: derbyshire Posts: 321 Thanks: 38 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Difference between 1.9Tdi 105PD VS 130PD Shifty had some up for sale not long back too, might be worth a PM?

20-02-2008, 23:57	#12
dervdoctor Site Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 196 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Difference between 1.9Tdi 105PD VS 130PD the turbo and injectors are different, also the 105 has the later EDC16 ecu fitted. our standard re-map gives 35 bhp, but we can get 155 bhp if we do a special file but the stock clutch will not last long term. __________________

09-03-2008, 09:40	#14
martzweb Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 65 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Difference between 1.9Tdi 105PD VS 130PD guys - i have a 105 PD that i just got with 14000 miles on the clock and i live in northern ireland - is the ecu re-map something i can do myself (after paying dervdoctor for files obviously) or does the car need hooked up to diagnostic kit and rolling road ? problem is i dont have a clue who does this sort of thing in NI.

09-03-2008, 12:51	#16
monkey023 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 138 Thanks: 11 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Difference between 1.9Tdi 105PD VS 130PD Heard many good things about the Superchips Bluefin device! Will be getting one soon myself. Provides a good upgrade for the PD105. Also consider a panel filter and pd160 air intake. Are we sure that the pd130 has different injectors to the pd105? I was led to believe that they are the same! As the injectors would be pretty much ok in terms of handling anything from 90bhp to about 200bhp! Anyone know for sure?? Regards, Mark

09-03-2008, 14:01	#17
encephalopathy Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 112 Thanks: 7 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Difference between 1.9Tdi 105PD VS 130PD @martzweb - whereabouts are you in NI? there are lots of different places in NI that can do remaps, some good, some not so good. i would use torquetronix in kells if i were to remap mine....very good reputation Torque Tronix - Welcome to Torque Tronix __________________ "There's a time to live, there's a time to die But isn't it strange that as soon as you're born you are dying?" IM

09-03-2008, 14:01	#18
robb06210 Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 1,119 Thanks: 54 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Difference between 1.9Tdi 105PD VS 130PD If you're doing it on a budget... PD130 Turbo would do it, and take it one better and get the handling sorted Of course, if you have money to burn... look up a member named Devonutopia... __________________ I was just a figment of your imagination! After nearly two years and a hell of a lot of fun, I'm off - all the best to everybody; this is Robbo signing off!

11-03-2008, 16:56	#19
monkey023 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 138 Thanks: 11 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Difference between 1.9Tdi 105PD VS 130PD I am now under the impression that the PD105 on the mkII octavia and mkII fabia has the same turbo as some of the Fabia vRS PD130s did. That being the KKK KP39 turbo! Any confirmation on this? Mark

26-04-2008, 14:50	#20
sbfx Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Difference between 1.9Tdi 105PD VS 130PD Hello Guys, I have had my car chipped with the Custom Codes remap (Stage One), its been great so far! but would like to know more as to how to achieve 180odd BHP I'm ready to upgrade injectors, turbo, brakes, intercooler and clutch. I would like to know wheres the best place to source and the right part no for my car. I'm from India so I would have to import all the parts. Hoping you guys can help me on this one. Best Regards, Satyam Bachani.

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