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This is a discussion on Evry Mod For Pd within the Maintenance & Performance forums, part of the General Motoring Discussions category; Take a look: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dgace/evry_mod.htm I'm going to try it on my Fabia. I will post results here later....


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Old 07-07-2003, 23:19   #1
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Take a look:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dgace/evry_mod.htm

I'm going to try it on my Fabia.


I will post results here later.
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Old 07-07-2003, 23:45   #2
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What this mod is for????

Can you explain me?? I am just curious

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I think this is the sort of thing you'll find advertised on eBay, claiming to add 10bhp to any car. I think it causes the ecu to mix more fuel into the engine, but I'm no mechanic so don't take my word for it

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Ah yes, I've read about this on scoobynet, posted up by my mate Paul Palmer Below is what I read on there. Seems that this little mod is being sold over e-bay at vast profit so someone decided to post the details to stop people having to pay out money

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This is doing the rounds and some people are getting conned by it but I haven't seen any mention of it here so sorry if it's a scooby in a lake. This was cut from the Integrale forum

Here it is the full info on the mod that people keep buying I got the details off Ebay so for anyone who is sad enough to try it can do so and not get ripped off!
**PERFORMANCE +20BHP TO YOUR ENGINE FOR FREE. This is no joke All the adverts on ebay that state they sell performance chip that boost your cars performane are actully a 4.7k resistor that can be bought in any electrical component shop. This is causing uproar and Im getting alot of stick for publishing this info coz they want you to pay them £5 for a 10p resistor. Not bad for a days work.
Why I'm I giving this info for free? Because I think it is a total rip off so I want to expose it and show you how to boost your cars proformance for the cost of a resistor.

But beware as it dosn't work on all cars

This has caused major uproar with ebayers who are cashing in on the resistor for a fiver. They say your paying for the info

but here is is for free

IAT Timing Sensor Modification

Approximate 5-15 minutes installation time, Please read completely before installing. If in doubt please refer to your Haynes manual to locate you IAT sensor.

Purchase a 4.7k resistor from a electrical componant shop. and a couple of cable ties

Instructions:

1. Turn off engine and remove key from ignition, you may also want to disconnect the negative battery terminal, some ECU's may still detect changes even with the key removed and a check engine light may come on.

2. Locate Ait Intake Temperature (IAT) Sensor. The Sensor will be located in between the air intake box and the throttle body. If you cannot locate the sensor consult a mechanic, your dealer or owners manuel for assistance. Do not confuse the IAT with the 02 or mass air sensor. The IAT circuit is a 5 volt circuit if you wish to test with a voltmeter to locate it. In all case of uncertainty, we recommend either contacting your manufacture or a mechanic for assistance in locating the IAT sensor.

3. After you have located the IAT sensor, disconnect the wire harness from the IAT sensor. Gently pull the tab out and lift the plug from the sensor housing.

4. Take your 4.7k resistor and shape it into a U and place the metal receptacles on the resistor into the sensor plug. Push receptacles as far as they go. The resistor will get deformed and probably appear squashed this is OK and not a problem.

5. Make sure the IAT sensor plug and MOD is tied secure within the engine compartment with a cable tie. + protected from water.

After installation make sure everything is secure and double check your installation. You should feel the extra power almost immediately. But as with all performance accessories use at your own risk. By using this MOD you accept all responsibility.

Just to clarify what the mod actualy does it fools the ECU into thinking the air the engine is breathing in is cold and dense so it thinks the engine will need more fuel (thats where the power gains come from) so in winter you will have little gain because the air is already cold, in the summer you will gain to the point where the engine is not getting enough air for the fuel going in.

Another area of uncertanty is where they got the valye for the resistor as all "IAT (inlet air temperature) sensors" will be different as in the resistance ranges they operate to you can find these details in most Haynes manuals e.g. Renault Clio multi-point injection the sensor reads from 9.72Kohms (coldest) to 1.47Kohms (hottest).
If you do want to perform this mod do some research first and if you know someone interested in buying one show them this first

Print this off put it on a notice board some where just lets stop people buying the rip off mod!!!
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Ooops, just realised that it is a different mod The one I posted is for the inlet air temperature rather than fuel pressure. I'll leave it there as it may be of use to someone
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Old 08-07-2003, 09:12   #6
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Hello Massa,
Welcome to the site!

I thought the EVRY mod was only applicable to the older generation TDis (110hp/90hp) but would be very interested to see how you get on.

Read bits about in on TDi club but was never quite sure how to do it. IIRC its a bit like a home grown tuning box mod.

Details can be found here

BTW any pics/details of mods on your nice Fabia vRS?
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After reading this, I'm after some guidance... A friend of mine had, what he describes as a "Temperature Sensor Mod" that he had on his VW Bora TDi 150, that he said fooled the engine into thinking that the fuel was running hotter than it actually was, so it squirted more fuel in. He reckoned it gave him a 10-20bhp boost with only a few mpg degradation in economy. Again, he's said it's a 10-15 minute job to fit, and this all sounds very, very similar to the kit that been described as the "Evry" mod in this thread. He's now replaced it with some other full engine tuning mod of some sort, so he's put if up for sale.

So, has anyone used one, had any experience of them, and does it actually make any difference? Also, does it have any warranty / dealer upsetting implications?

I'm also deducing, by everyone's scepticism on this mod, that the £40 that he's after for it, is taking the p1ss a little?

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Sounds similar to the mod Jon posted.....3 posts above yours.
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i got 1 of the resistors but i have 3 wires in my iat so god knows which ones to stick it in apparently it does work my uncle has put it in all of his cars from audis to scoobys and it has worked in all of them so if any body knows which wires to connect it to i would be gratefull for some advice
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If you are determined to ignore the advice you were given in your other post then so be it. You won't get your answer here as the eVry Mod is for Diesel Engines mate.

Do you understand why the resistor you have is fitted where it is and what it does?
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After reading this, I'm after some guidance... A friend of mine had, what he describes as a "Temperature Sensor Mod" that he had on his VW Bora TDi 150, that he said fooled the engine into thinking that the fuel was running hotter than it actually was, so it squirted more fuel in. He reckoned it gave him a 10-20bhp boost with only a few mpg degradation in economy. Again, he's said it's a 10-15 minute job to fit, and this all sounds very, very similar to the kit that been described as the "Evry" mod in this thread. He's now replaced it with some other full engine tuning mod of some sort, so he's put if up for sale.

So, has anyone used one, had any experience of them, and does it actually make any difference? Also, does it have any warranty / dealer upsetting implications?

I'm also deducing, by everyone's scepticism on this mod, that the £40 that he's after for it, is taking the p1ss a little?

Cheers, Chaos

That's the idea that i was trying to remember on the £5 ebay mod post.

Heard it wrt petrol ,but they don't half drink juice after it .
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I wouldn't touch this with barge pole. Its amazing how much damage a £5 mod can cause and cost to put right.
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I wouldn't touch this with barge pole. Its amazing how much damage a £5 mod can cause and cost to put right.
Mine worked flawlessly for 30k miles and sailed through 2 MOT's. Best bang for buck mod I did on the Fabia

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Its a cheap and very effective mod. Had one fitted a while back. Alot more vfm than a remap. Just a shame the ecu logs a fault on the fuel temp sensor on later cars. But a simple vag-com reset is all thats needed.
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I wouldn't touch this with barge pole. Its amazing how much damage a £5 mod can cause and cost to put right.
Never heard any problems. Care to share more?
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Never heard any problems. Care to share more?

"Its amazing how much damage a £5 mod can cause and cost to put right"

I didn't understand that comment either, never heard of any problems and I ran one for a good few thousand miles before finally getting a proper re-map.

As said .... care to elaborate s3akr ?

Edit: Thinking about it, I suppose it could perhaps cause "bore wash" in an engine or fubar the cat if it over-fuelled too much but I doubt it's over-fuelling enough to do so and certainly I've never heard of one causing these particular problems or any problem for that matter.
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By reading between the lines of the blurb that accompanies 'more advanced' products (not naming names, and not saying it's true), Power Resistor of Doom-type mods supposedly make your exhaust super-sooty at low revs, and so can allegedly clog up the vanes of the turbo. 'More advanced' mods allegedly don't increase the fuelling at low revs to combat this. And full remaps of course alter the boost pressure as well as the fuelling.

But OTOH, I seldom drive off-boost anyway, so smoking's only really an issue for me in the brief moment after a gear change. Then there's the fact that diesel engines run on excess air, so as long as the over-fuelling isn't too heavy, there ought to be sufficient oxygen for complete combustion anyway.

Oh, I don't know...
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my brother had one of these on his Vrs Got dirty really fast as you can see in the pic after 200 miles trip to lakes (i know its crap but he cannot use a camera for toffee) but it did give it a fair power boost. did have the prob with the fuel temp sensor tho had to reset the ecu light every 3 months or so with my vag-com




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If anyone is determined to fit a cheap Ebay mod as advertised for the Skoda (VAG) diesel (for between £30 and £50) then the resistor fitted in their 2 pin boxes is 160 Ohm and the box simply disconnects the engine sensor and wires the resistor across the 2 pins in the connector.

As stated above this simply fools the ECU into over-fueling the engine at all times. Some engines reportedly work fine with this mod but it does cause soot and CAN damage the tubo so the choice is yours

Resistor is about 10p at Maplins or RS

Similar mods! are offered for petrol VAG motors but they simply do the same thing - I do not know the correct value resistor for petrol engines - if anyone has one perhaps they would run a meter over it and post its value.

I had one on my petrol Civic but replaced it with a home brew variable resistor and had to fine tune it to get the best performance, and then only a very slight improvement. As this was an oldish design motor there was no Turbo or sensor array to screw up - I would never fit such a mod to a modern turbo petrol engine.
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If anyone is determined to fit a cheap Ebay mod as advertised for the Skoda (VAG) diesel (for between £30 and £50) then the resistor fitted in their 2 pin boxes is 160 Ohm and the box simply disconnects the engine sensor and wires the resistor across the 2 pins in the connector.
Not that I'd want to do the mod, but the blurb I looked at either used a 300Ohm resistor in parallel with the sensor, or a potentiometer plus XYZOhm resistor, again in parallel. Not saying it's necessarily any better, but presumably it allows the sensor to function, albeit being tricked into thinking it's however many degrees colder than it actually is...? Using the resistor to replace the sensor entirely would mean it always thought it was a particular (cold) temperature, so there wouldn't be any adjustment in fuelling at all between Summer and Winter? (Beyond the small effect of ambient temperature on the resistor, of course...)
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