FabVRS 1/4 Mile Time Santapod

[Nick C]

Spent Sunday at Santapod at the run what you brung day. I was the only diesel powered car and only Skoda there which provoked a few smiles.

Into a very strong head wind, which i was told by regulars to this event reduced times by at least - 0.5 seconds, I managed a 15.7 1/4 mile with a terminal speed 87.09mph. Hit 60 feet in 2.35 seconds and 1/8 of a mile in 10.109 at 71.18mph. My brother in-law gave me the fomula working the 1/8 of a mile speed to my 0-60 time which was 7.18 seconds. People I spoke to were very impressed with my sub 16 time. There were a lot of fairy decent cars putting in slower times than the Diesel Furby!

Several Civic type Rs with big exhasts were running low 15s which suprised me making my best effort look very respectable. A standard Clio 172 was running about the same as my times

On the way home I realised that all my runs were carried out with the traction on. Anyone know if i would have been quicker with it off? I think it may have been.

It was a fun day, but still prefer ragging it around a track over a straight line sprint which diesels on not the best at (all that weight).

Nick C

[faboka vrs]

Nice times. I assume your car is not standard?

[Nick C]

No revod and green panel filter

Anyone able to answer my question on Traction on traction off - see initial thread

[devonutopia]

I get slower 0-60s with traction control off - too much spinning.

edited to say its less fun though.

[Neo_VR]

Traction is better off.. as it cuts too much power in 2nd and 3rd gear

just need to granny it in 1st... short shift to second before you boot it

[Neo_VR]

Originally Posted by Neo_VR

Traction is better off.. as it cuts too much power in 2nd and 3rd gear

just need to granny it in 1st... short shift to second before you boot it

Rekon i could possibly get mid 6 with my sticky tyres on

[devonutopia]

Originally Posted by Neo_VR

Traction is better off.. as it cuts too much power in 2nd and 3rd gear

just need to granny it in 1st... short shift to second before you boot it

I should add with mine, its only a lowly woosy tractor PD100 and would be lucky to get mid 8s out of it. I've tried loads of times to do 0-60s with traction control off, and it simply spins out too much. Traction control simply gets the power on the road.

[Neo_VR]

Originally Posted by devonutopia

I should add with mine, its only a lowly woosy tractor PD100 and would be lucky to get mid 8s out of it. I've tried loads of times to do 0-60s with traction control off, and it simply spins out too much. Traction control simply gets the power on the road.

lol. then your not driving it properly!

[devonutopia]

Originally Posted by Neo_VR

lol. then your not driving it properly!

I dunno about that, but it could be why my front Toyo Proxes are still in quite good nick after so many thousands of miles...

[Josh_PoloGTi]

God... My Toyos were BALD on my Polo after 6k Max... And that didn't spin the wheels much!

[devonutopia]

Originally Posted by Josh_PoloGTi

God... My Toyos were BALD on my Polo after 6k Max... And that didn't spin the wheels much!

I can't understand why either... Not that I'm complaining. Anyone who was at conedodgers probably saw the beans I was giving my car around that cone slalom setup, approach 30mph+, full handbrake 180 whilst on full throttle wheels shreeking in 2nd gear... cabin filling up with smoke...

It must be 15K+ miles now, and they're "starting" to approach the markers.

[JUT]

Originally Posted by Nick C

Into a very strong head wind, which i was told by regulars to this event reduced times by at least - 0.5 seconds, I managed a 15.7 1/4 mile with a terminal speed 87.09mph. Hit 60 feet in 2.35 seconds and 1/8 of a mile in 10.109 at 71.18mph. My brother in-law gave me the fomula working the 1/8 of a mile speed to my 0-60 time which was 7.18 seconds. People I spoke to were very impressed with my sub 16 time. There were a lot of fairy decent cars putting in slower times than the Diesel Furby!

Nick C

I was at the Pod the previous weekend and ran a 14.18 quarter, at a terminal speed of 101 mph!

I'd like to say it was in the Furby, but I hadn't got it yet. That was in my 200SX - last blast before I sell it (any offers?!?!?!). I ran against an R32 skyline who did a 14.4. The look on the guy's face was priceless!

[hobnob]

so traction control.... you say it reduces power in 2nd and 3rd. What if the traction control light never comes on?? is it still doing something as I have only ever managed to get it to illuminate a couple of times while trying to weel spin out of junctions

[Neo_VR]

Originally Posted by hobnob

so traction control.... you say it reduces power in 2nd and 3rd. What if the traction control light never comes on?? is it still doing something as I have only ever managed to get it to illuminate a couple of times while trying to weel spin out of junctions

Yes... it can intervine without putting the light on.. if your giving it beans and shift into 2nd and 3rd quickly, theres enough wheelslip to get the tc to momentaryaily cut power... which ruins your momentum

[ScoobyChris]

Originally Posted by hobnob

so traction control.... you say it reduces power in 2nd and 3rd. What if the traction control light never comes on?? is it still doing something as I have only ever managed to get it to illuminate a couple of times while trying to weel spin out of junctions

I wondered this as well - there were some posts a while back saying that if the traction control is turned off while you're on the move, the EDL (electronic diff lock) is still active, you have to turn it off at a standstill for everything to be off. I'm assuming the EDL works by reducing the power to the spinning wheel to match the rpm of the non-spinning wheel, rather than directing all the power to the wheel with grip?

Chris

[logiclee]

Originally Posted by ScoobyChris

I'm assuming the EDL works by reducing the power to the spinning wheel to match the rpm of the non-spinning wheel, rather than directing all the power to the wheel with grip?

Chris

EDL is not as clever as that, it doesn't actually have an active diff. When the system detects a wheel is spinning away the torque it applies the brake on that wheel and this transfers more of the torque to the wheel which isn't spinning.


Cheers
Lee

[ScoobyChris]

Originally Posted by logiclee

EDL is not as clever as that, it doesn't actually have an active diff. When the system detects a wheel is spinning away the torque it applies the brake on that wheel and this transfers more of the torque to the wheel which isn't spinning.

That's how I would have thought it would work, but the Skoda brochure says..........

Originally Posted by Skoda Fabia Brochure

EDL

: the Electronic Differential Lock continually compares the rpm of the drive wheels, and if it identifies a difference between them which could lead to an individual wheel spinning, for example if the two wheels are on different types of surface or accelerating on wet leaves, the system brakes the wheel affected until uniform rpm of all drive wheels is restored.

..... which read to me as if the power is just reduced and reduced on the spinning wheel until it matches the non-spinning wheel rpm? Although, thinking about it, I would guess that there is nothing to stop the non-spinning wheel increasing in rpm (as more torque is directed to it) while the spinning one is decreasing until they met at a "uniform rpm".

Chris

[bengie]

Originally Posted by ScoobyChris

the system brakes the wheel affected until uniform rpm of all drive wheels is restored.

but it clearly says that it brakes the wheels, personally i don't like the traction control on my car. i think its set up all wrong because it cuts in before the 4x4 does so unless you have it off the 4x4 is pretty much useless

[devonutopia]

Originally Posted by bengie

so unless you have it off ...

Damn my warped mind. Must be one of those mornings.

[bengie]

Originally Posted by devonutopia

Damn my sick perverted mind i can't stop thinking of briskoda members as sex objects. Must be one of those mornings.

now now jason, while i am grateful for your interest i currently have a GF so no help needed here buddy