Ferodo DS2500 Brake Dust?

Liam · 12-08-2004, 12:24

Hi,

I visit here frequently as my Dad has a chipped Fab vRS

. I have a Focus TDCi Sport - also chipped... *ducks for cover*

We are about to upgrade our discs and pads and we've settled on Black Diamond discs and - depending on your replies - Ferodo DS2500 pads.

I was wondering what the brake dust levels are like in comparison to the standard pads? Mine are shocking, the Fab's not so bad but I was just curious as I don't want black wheels within 20miles of driving and at the same time I don't want the likes of Greenstuff pads as I don't like them...

Thanks in advance,
Liam.

Quinten · 12-08-2004, 12:30

Bit more dust, but a lot more grip.

***Neo_VR*** · 12-08-2004, 12:41

Yes, the DS2500 are very dusty.. but they are very very good. and the brake dust can be removed easily with something like MC2 from waxwizard

***ColinD*** · 12-08-2004, 12:44

Think competition performance!

I have all round 2500's, somebody else has the 3000's which are not really for road use but as it's a track car...well anyway on BD discs it's outbraked the odd GT on track.

The 2500's all round will have your passengers saying flip me trust me...Huck did

They are quite dusty, I've found if I do not clan my wheels then it never looks any worse.

devonutopia · 12-08-2004, 12:45

I have all round DS2500s, and although the frequency with which the brake dust needs cleaning off, its worth it with the performance!

Oh, and as mentioned above, the MC2 does a wonderful job anyway!

**TaviaRS** · 12-08-2004, 12:50

DS2500 are a really really good pad. Not as dusty as some, but more dusty than standard VAG pads. Then again, they do stop you an awful lot better

devonutopia · 12-08-2004, 12:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaviaRS

DS2500 are a really really good pad. Not as dusty as some, but more dusty than standard VAG pads. Then again, they do stop you an awful lot better

Hmmm, and I can second this having been ferried around Wales in the old vRS and around Brunters in the white vRS - all with DS pads on of varying models.

vrs jonno · 12-08-2004, 15:10

is it worth putting ds2500's on standard discs?

jonno.

devonutopia · 12-08-2004, 15:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by vrs jonno

is it worth putting ds2500's on standard discs?

jonno.

Oh yeah!

Even on my smaller than vRS brake discs it makes hell of a difference - no fade or anything - need dot4.1 brake fluid at the same time though which costs very little in comparison to 4 sets of pads.

**TaviaRS** · 12-08-2004, 15:20

Yep, that is what I run. They are an improvement over standard pads, the uprated disks are well worth having though and I will be putting them on mine when the standard disks are dead.

Liam · 13-08-2004, 19:19

Thanks very much for the responses people, you've made our minds up...

***Neo_VR*** · 13-08-2004, 19:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam

Thanks very much for the responses people, you've made our minds up...

You will not be dissapointed

Liam · 13-08-2004, 19:26

They (and the discs) should be on both cars next week...

Looking forward to reduced brake-fade mostly...

***Neo_VR*** · 13-08-2004, 19:41

Youll notice a very big improvement...
just something to note tho... bedding in

the instructions for the pads reccomend 25-30 applications of brakes at 50% race pressure for 3-6 seconds at a time.. so thats 30 stops braking hard from about 80-100mph which will destroy new discs...

so what i did was took it VERY easy for first week or so to bed the disk in... then went out and generally hammered the pads.... theve not let me down since

Liam · 13-08-2004, 20:22

Cheers Colin...

***ColinD*** · 13-08-2004, 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo_VR

Youll notice a very big improvement...
just something to note tho... bedding in

the instructions for the pads reccomend 25-30 applications of brakes at 50% race pressure for 3-6 seconds at a time.. so thats 30 stops braking hard from about 80-100mph which will destroy new discs...

so what i did was took it VERY easy for first week or so to bed the disk in... then went out and generally hammered the pads.... theve not let me down since

New Discs and pads Friday, Track Day Saturday

Left the final burning in to TaviaRS...all I will say is fluid fluid and fluids...change it.

Steve vRS · 13-08-2004, 23:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColinD

...all I will say is fluid fluid and fluids...change it.

Silkolene going in mine on Monday, ready for Oulton Park on Thursday

Steve

***ColinD*** · 13-08-2004, 23:10

ooho bugger...away for Mon/Tues and Wed so will have a few hours owing...and it's only 11miles to Oulton...Might have a shufty see whats going on.

MonkeyHanger · 13-08-2004, 23:40

I'd have another set of DS2500's without hesitation.

I've done over 2000 miles in the last week alone, and the brakes have worked every time i needed them. They didn't even fade when hammering around Bruntingthorpe

Just give your wheels a good coat of wax and use MC2 to clean them. Dust will not be a problem

Steve vRS · 13-08-2004, 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonkeyHanger

Just give your wheels a good coat of wax and use MC2 to clean them. Dust will not be a problem

Apart from in those tight corners by the rim.

Steve

12-08-2004, 12:24	#1
Liam Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Wirral, Merseyside Posts: 609 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ferodo DS2500 Brake Dust? Hi, I visit here frequently as my Dad has a chipped Fab vRS . I have a Focus TDCi Sport - also chipped... ducks for cover We are about to upgrade our discs and pads and we've settled on Black Diamond discs and - depending on your replies - Ferodo DS2500 pads. I was wondering what the brake dust levels are like in comparison to the standard pads? Mine are shocking, the Fab's not so bad but I was just curious as I don't want black wheels within 20miles of driving and at the same time I don't want the likes of Greenstuff pads as I don't like them... Thanks in advance, Liam.

12-08-2004, 12:30	#2
Quinten playing dadsie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: fast lane Posts: 10,012 Thanks: 16 Thanked 41 Times in 38 Posts	Bit more dust, but a lot more grip. __________________ Awooga!!!

12-08-2004, 12:41	#3
*Neo_VR* UberMod™ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 11,773 Thanks: 58 Thanked 145 Times in 105 Posts	Yes, the DS2500 are very dusty.. but they are very very good. and the brake dust can be removed easily with something like MC2 from waxwizard __________________ ColGod the UberMod VXR, Gti, ST, vRS... An MPS fears not these things...

12-08-2004, 12:44	#4
*ColinD* Site owner Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hill & Mountains of North Wales Posts: 10,204 Thanks: 18 Thanked 133 Times in 67 Posts	Think competition performance! I have all round 2500's, somebody else has the 3000's which are not really for road use but as it's a track car...well anyway on BD discs it's outbraked the odd GT on track. The 2500's all round will have your passengers saying flip me trust me...Huck did They are quite dusty, I've found if I do not clan my wheels then it never looks any worse. __________________ ColinD - 97/100 Limited Edition Octavia vRS < For Sale www.BRISKODA.net :: Site Owner. E-Mail : webmaster at briskoda dot net Got a comment to make about the site? Please feel free to use the feedback form here, we welcome your views.

12-08-2004, 12:45	#5
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ooo-ar, Oi be from Devonshire Posts: 29,053 Thanks: 60 Thanked 272 Times in 222 Posts	I have all round DS2500s, and although the frequency with which the brake dust needs cleaning off, its worth it with the performance! Oh, and as mentioned above, the MC2 does a wonderful job anyway! __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

12-08-2004, 12:50	#6
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,917 Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	DS2500 are a really really good pad. Not as dusty as some, but more dusty than standard VAG pads. Then again, they do stop you an awful lot better __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

12-08-2004, 15:10	#8
vrs jonno Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: glenfield,leicester Posts: 571 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	is it worth putting ds2500's on standard discs? jonno. __________________ R500 VRS 4ever Chairman I.B.M.A wish i had an RS Fabia, whiplash aerial, racing trim, RS owner-no one meaner, wish that i could be like him.

12-08-2004, 15:20	#10
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,917 Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Yep, that is what I run. They are an improvement over standard pads, the uprated disks are well worth having though and I will be putting them on mine when the standard disks are dead. __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

13-08-2004, 19:19	#11
Liam Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Wirral, Merseyside Posts: 609 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks very much for the responses people, you've made our minds up...

13-08-2004, 19:26	#13
Liam Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Wirral, Merseyside Posts: 609 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	They (and the discs) should be on both cars next week... Looking forward to reduced brake-fade mostly...

13-08-2004, 19:41	#14
*Neo_VR* UberMod™ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 11,773 Thanks: 58 Thanked 145 Times in 105 Posts	Youll notice a very big improvement... just something to note tho... bedding in the instructions for the pads reccomend 25-30 applications of brakes at 50% race pressure for 3-6 seconds at a time.. so thats 30 stops braking hard from about 80-100mph which will destroy new discs... so what i did was took it VERY easy for first week or so to bed the disk in... then went out and generally hammered the pads.... theve not let me down since __________________ ColGod the UberMod VXR, Gti, ST, vRS... An MPS fears not these things...

13-08-2004, 20:22	#15
Liam Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Wirral, Merseyside Posts: 609 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Cheers Colin...

13-08-2004, 23:10	#18
*ColinD* Site owner Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hill & Mountains of North Wales Posts: 10,204 Thanks: 18 Thanked 133 Times in 67 Posts	ooho bugger...away for Mon/Tues and Wed so will have a few hours owing...and it's only 11miles to Oulton...Might have a shufty see whats going on. __________________ ColinD - 97/100 Limited Edition Octavia vRS < For Sale www.BRISKODA.net :: Site Owner. E-Mail : webmaster at briskoda dot net Got a comment to make about the site? Please feel free to use the feedback form here, we welcome your views.

13-08-2004, 23:40	#19
MonkeyHanger BANNED Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Anywhere but here Posts: 8,781 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'd have another set of DS2500's without hesitation. I've done over 2000 miles in the last week alone, and the brakes have worked every time i needed them. They didn't even fade when hammering around Bruntingthorpe Just give your wheels a good coat of wax and use MC2 to clean them. Dust will not be a problem

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