Help pleeeeeease......

farky77 · 18-05-2008, 09:37

Yesterday while driving the car (fabia vrs) in heavy traffic, i could smell that 'hot water' smell. You know, like the car was overheating?? Anyway, the temp gauge was bang on half way as usual, so i continued my journey. This morning as soon as i started the car, the temp light (red pic of thermostat) came on and started beeping

Checked the water level and it was WAY below minimum

Top it up and used it for the rest of today. Left car running while i ran into the chinese but on the way out noticed water dripping from the front right of the car, so checked levels again and its used more water, sitting maybe half way now.
Am i right in saying that this could be the water pump?? If so, i'm REALLY pi$$ed off!!!
I got the cam belt replaced last month and when i was in the Main Dealers booking it in, i asked about replacing the water pump while the belts were getting done, to which the Service Manager replied "no point mate, i've never had a water pump on the Fabia's fail yet and i've been here 11yrs"

I beleive the cost of now replacing the water pump will be the same as the cambelt change??
Another Q is, why does it smell like its over heating if the temp gauge isnt?? I'm worried incase its the head gasket??
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated

Sorry for the long post, i'm ****n rageing!!!

Ian

**mannyo** · 18-05-2008, 09:40

Water pump, radiator hose, radiator, tbh it could be anything. Proberbly not the head gasket though. You really need to get under the car and have a look.

Basil · 18-05-2008, 09:42

The standard operating procedure is to change the water pump at every cambelt change. Dealer should know this.

Check it isn't a loose/torn hose first - should be visible where the leak is coming from. may be as simple as a clip needing tightening (I hope)

Sure some more professional advice will be along shortly mate, hang in there

HTH
Bas

***Neo_VR*** · 18-05-2008, 09:44

I would check the thermostat....
IIRC didnt WW_vRS have problems because his themostat wasnt opening enough.. the engine was slowly overheating but the temp sender wasnt registering it (cant remember why)

RADIOTWO · 18-05-2008, 09:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by farky77

Yesterday while driving the car (fabia vrs) in heavy traffic, i could smell that 'hot water' smell. You know, like the car was overheating?? Anyway, the temp gauge was bang on half way as usual, so i continued my journey. This morning as soon as i started the car, the temp light (red pic of thermostat) came on and started beeping

Checked the water level and it was WAY below minimum

Top it up and used it for the rest of today. Left car running while i ran into the chinese but on the way out noticed water dripping from the front right of the car, so checked levels again and its used more water, sitting maybe half way now.
Am i right in saying that this could be the water pump?? If so, i'm REALLY pi$$ed off!!!
I got the cam belt replaced last month and when i was in the Main Dealers booking it in, i asked about replacing the water pump while the belts were getting done, to which the Service Manager replied "no point mate, i've never had a water pump on the Fabia's fail yet and i've been here 11yrs"

I beleive the cost of now replacing the water pump will be the same as the cambelt change??
Another Q is, why does it smell like its over heating if the temp gauge isnt?? I'm worried incase its the head gasket??
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated

Sorry for the long post, i'm ****n rageing!!!

Ian

Hi Ian

last things first, the resion it smells, is it is very hot, poss about 90/100 C which is nearly boiling !

But to where it is comming from you need to follow the water back up to the point it is comming out (it could come out at one point and run along and drip somewhere else.

check if you have oil in the water, or even water in the oil (take the oil filler cap off and if there is some white gunk) that is a bad sign poss gasket

Its a matter of checking where its comming from first, I asume you have not over filled it first, as when it gets hot it will just blow off .

Radiotwo

TKW · 18-05-2008, 09:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by RADIOTWO

last things first, the resion it smells, is it is very hot, poss about 90/100 C which is nearly boiling !

Although that isn't necessarily a problem because, as the system is / should be pressurized, the boiling point is much higher. 90deg C is a perfectly normal coolant temperature.

**mannyo** · 18-05-2008, 10:02

My octavia runs at 90c. My old Boxster also run at 90c, although in hot weather stationery could hit 110c+ which is still well within tollerence.

rurwin · 18-05-2008, 11:02

It will smell like it's over-heating because there is hot water around the heater's air intake. Take it back to the dealer and if he tells you the pump needs replacing then demand he waives the labour charge since you asked him to do it in the first place.

In the old days cars ran at over 100C and you had to wait for it to cool down before you opened it. These days every one I have come across runs at 90-95C, and most engine testbeds use open circuit cooling, ie normal air pressure. It's quite spectacular when the cooling control software fails to catch it before it reaches the magic 100C. The test-cell fills with steam and someone has to go in with a mop and bucket.

Water dripping off the engine isn't always a bad sign, although in this case it is. In hot weather, water condenses on the A/C heat exchanger and drips off. In that case, of course, the coolent level remains constant.

farky77 · 19-05-2008, 13:57

Update: Just back from my main Dealer, checked the car and said it was the radiator.
He also said that he was happy at it splitting as the car has only done 38k miles so gave me Skoda UK number and told me to phone them saying i wasnt happy. Hopefully they will repair it free of charge or even help with the costs.
Thanks to all that replied

Ian

GREZA · 19-05-2008, 15:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by farky77

Update: Just back from my main Dealer, checked the car and said it was the radiator.
He also said that he was happy at it splitting as the car has only done 38k miles so gave me Skoda UK number and told me to phone them saying i wasnt happy. Hopefully they will repair it free of charge or even help with the costs.
Thanks to all that replied

Ian

I admire your optimism! Best of luck.

Johnny50 · 20-05-2008, 11:45

At least it's nothing too serious.

Let us know how you get on.

cheezemonkhai · 21-05-2008, 16:53

Pay something towards the parts as then it gets a 2 year parts warranty IIRC

farky77 · 31-05-2008, 13:38

UPDATE: Well after nearly 10 days of calls back and forward from Skoda Customer Services, i'm glad to inform you all that they're footing the Bill!!!
At first they were going to pay 40% (standard procedure) but after some persistence from SWMBO, they called back to Thursday to confirm they were paying it in full

Very very helpful and polite they were at all times too

Ian

Johnny50 · 02-06-2008, 09:06

Superb !

Good to hear.

18-05-2008, 09:37	#1
farky77 Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 511	Help pleeeeeease...... Yesterday while driving the car (fabia vrs) in heavy traffic, i could smell that 'hot water' smell. You know, like the car was overheating?? Anyway, the temp gauge was bang on half way as usual, so i continued my journey. This morning as soon as i started the car, the temp light (red pic of thermostat) came on and started beeping Checked the water level and it was WAY below minimum Top it up and used it for the rest of today. Left car running while i ran into the chinese but on the way out noticed water dripping from the front right of the car, so checked levels again and its used more water, sitting maybe half way now. Am i right in saying that this could be the water pump?? If so, i'm REALLY pi$$ed off!!! I got the cam belt replaced last month and when i was in the Main Dealers booking it in, i asked about replacing the water pump while the belts were getting done, to which the Service Manager replied "no point mate, i've never had a water pump on the Fabia's fail yet and i've been here 11yrs" I beleive the cost of now replacing the water pump will be the same as the cambelt change?? Another Q is, why does it smell like its over heating if the temp gauge isnt?? I'm worried incase its the head gasket?? Any help on this would be greatly appreciated Sorry for the long post, i'm ****n rageing!!! Ian __________________ Lowered -30mm KW springs, Toyo's, LCR splitter, Octy II vRS badges, TT Comps

18-05-2008, 09:40	#2
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 10,301	Re: Help pleeeeeease...... Water pump, radiator hose, radiator, tbh it could be anything. Proberbly not the head gasket though. You really need to get under the car and have a look. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

18-05-2008, 09:42	#3
Basil hardcore modder Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bahrain, Arabian Gulf Posts: 2,787	Re: Help pleeeeeease...... The standard operating procedure is to change the water pump at every cambelt change. Dealer should know this. Check it isn't a loose/torn hose first - should be visible where the leak is coming from. may be as simple as a clip needing tightening (I hope) Sure some more professional advice will be along shortly mate, hang in there HTH Bas __________________ Fab vRS - Black Magic - PD160 intake - Forge FMIC - colour coded front grille -SLC Splitter - K&N Airfilter -SEAT Strutbrace - Jabba ARB - IC Waterspray (need to wire it in!) - 312mm TT brakes - Eibach Springs - Skoda Reversing sensors - Devonutopia Tuning (tm) Custom Exhaust (2 1/4" straight pipe) - Short shifter mod- 5 brake light mod - Helix Steel SMF + Organic Clutch + pressure plate - Peloquin LSD - TD stage 2 Hybrid - Washbrook remapped ECU - Uprated injectors - Cupra bushes -Poly-filled dogbone - Allard racepipe - Pirelli Dragons - Forge Rear Strutbrace - DIY SS upper boostpipe delete -Koni FSD's - elephant pipe CCV mod

18-05-2008, 09:44	#4
*Neo_VR* Munkeh! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 11,540	Re: Help pleeeeeease...... I would check the thermostat.... IIRC didnt WW_vRS have problems because his themostat wasnt opening enough.. the engine was slowly overheating but the temp sender wasnt registering it (cant remember why) __________________ ColGod the UberMod

18-05-2008, 10:02	#7
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 10,301	Re: Help pleeeeeease...... My octavia runs at 90c. My old Boxster also run at 90c, although in hot weather stationery could hit 110c+ which is still well within tollerence. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

18-05-2008, 11:02	#8
rurwin Briskodian Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 33	Re: Help pleeeeeease...... It will smell like it's over-heating because there is hot water around the heater's air intake. Take it back to the dealer and if he tells you the pump needs replacing then demand he waives the labour charge since you asked him to do it in the first place. In the old days cars ran at over 100C and you had to wait for it to cool down before you opened it. These days every one I have come across runs at 90-95C, and most engine testbeds use open circuit cooling, ie normal air pressure. It's quite spectacular when the cooling control software fails to catch it before it reaches the magic 100C. The test-cell fills with steam and someone has to go in with a mop and bucket. Water dripping off the engine isn't always a bad sign, although in this case it is. In hot weather, water condenses on the A/C heat exchanger and drips off. In that case, of course, the coolent level remains constant.

19-05-2008, 13:57	#9
farky77 Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 511	Re: Help pleeeeeease...... Update: Just back from my main Dealer, checked the car and said it was the radiator. He also said that he was happy at it splitting as the car has only done 38k miles so gave me Skoda UK number and told me to phone them saying i wasnt happy. Hopefully they will repair it free of charge or even help with the costs. Thanks to all that replied Ian __________________ Lowered -30mm KW springs, Toyo's, LCR splitter, Octy II vRS badges, TT Comps

20-05-2008, 11:45	#11
Johnny50 Johnny Bravo Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,279	Re: Help pleeeeeease...... At least it's nothing too serious. Let us know how you get on.

21-05-2008, 16:53	#12
cheezemonkhai Mmm Weißbier Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 12,760	Re: Help pleeeeeease...... Pay something towards the parts as then it gets a 2 year parts warranty IIRC __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

31-05-2008, 13:38	#13
farky77 Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 511	Re: Help pleeeeeease...... UPDATE: Well after nearly 10 days of calls back and forward from Skoda Customer Services, i'm glad to inform you all that they're footing the Bill!!! At first they were going to pay 40% (standard procedure) but after some persistence from SWMBO, they called back to Thursday to confirm they were paying it in full Very very helpful and polite they were at all times too Ian __________________ Lowered -30mm KW springs, Toyo's, LCR splitter, Octy II vRS badges, TT Comps

02-06-2008, 09:06	#14
Johnny50 Johnny Bravo Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,279	Re: Help pleeeeeease...... Superb ! Good to hear.

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