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bully · 29-08-2004, 18:59

its all gone pear shaped
driven home from ipswich today and sudden jolt from car and the triangle with arrow round it light came on slowed down turned boost control right down pulled over but nothing felt different so carried on home [10 miles]
turned off for hour or so then went back and started up then had 2 warning lights now got the engine shaped light up as well called out the aa after a bit of playing about he said code p0102 mass or volume air flow he reset one of warning lights and said ill have take it in to the dealers. as soon as he left the warning light came back on .
ill take it in this week trouble being its been jabbed, remap/dv/boost control/
jabba induction kit ,the latter being the trouble i presume but the reason i went with the jabba one was because people had trouble with other induction kits because of oily filters and the sensor in our engine not liking it
so i dont no what to do anyone help please, is it terminal.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bully

devonutopia · 29-08-2004, 19:10

I had the MAF go as well, but not quite as dramatically as that! mine could be due to green filter, but can't be sure.

bully · 29-08-2004, 21:24

being a bit thick but what is the maf

**JaneC** · 29-08-2004, 21:36

It's a Mass Air Flow sensor. If you do a google search on "MAF sensor" then you should find some more information.

Aaquil · 29-08-2004, 21:56

I got told that MAF sensors go for all reasons. Some standard car without uprated filters / Induction kits go...so it may not be because of that?

rich1068 · 29-08-2004, 21:59

MAF is a known VAG weakpoint.

bully · 29-08-2004, 22:07

thanks for your help guys i dont know what i would do with out this site

***ColinD*** · 29-08-2004, 22:57

Well you should be able to claim for a new MAF assuming the normal restrictions. There are as many OEM ones failing as there are with aftermarket induction kits.

The weakness is mainly a mechanical stress failure as it's a hot wire that has air flowing over it, the weakness is induced because the air flow is reversed when you dump boost, then as you boot it you draw air back over it.

Hope that helps.

rich1068 · 29-08-2004, 22:57

Trouble is it's the 'jolt' that would worry me. A dodgy MAF, from what I can gather, is usually associated with poor/uneven running.

We haven't had that many MAF posts on here but try UKMKIVs or CupraNet.

Let's hope it's nothing more serious.

BTW If you end up shelling out I believe they're about £250, fitting takes seconds. I've also heard that dealers now do exchanges which I would imagine would be cheaper.

galv · 31-08-2004, 23:07

you can get re-con units for about £60-90 depending on the exact one fitted to your car.

Its a problem on standard cars too, we fit alot of them!

***DGW*** · 31-08-2004, 23:31

There is now an exchange part number for the MAF on ETKA - ie 06A 906 461LX for the AUQ/AUM/ARX - but I don't have a price.

SkodiRS · 01-09-2004, 01:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by bully

its all gone pear shaped
driven home from ipswich today and sudden jolt from car and the triangle with arrow round it light came on slowed down turned boost control right down pulled over but nothing felt different so carried on home [10 miles]
turned off for hour or so then went back and started up then had 2 warning lights now got the engine shaped light up as well called out the aa after a bit of playing about he said code p0102 mass or volume air flow he reset one of warning lights and said ill have take it in to the dealers. as soon as he left the warning light came back on .
ill take it in this week trouble being its been jabbed, remap/dv/boost control/
jabba induction kit ,the latter being the trouble i presume but the reason i went with the jabba one was because people had trouble with other induction kits because of oily filters and the sensor in our engine not liking it
so i dont no what to do anyone help please, is it terminal.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bully

From error code it does sound like the MAF but like Rich, I'm not to sure about "the jolt".

I'd also give Jabba a call. The filter that Jabba use for the induction kit isn't oiled, IIRC, and as people have said the MAF is a failure prone item even for standard cars.

From various other peeps who have called out the AA am a little concerned that they always reset the error codes. Sure in some cases it allows you to drive away but, do you really want to do that with out a proper resolution to the problem?

**TaviaRS** · 01-09-2004, 06:04

I had the same - DO NOT DRIVE IT! I did and got a £3.5k bill for my trouble

It is the MAF and your car will be running lean and you could end up with a rod through the block like I did.

Replacement MAFs are about £250, unless you get it under warranty. You can try cleaning it, do a search on here and you'll find instructions.

Quinten · 01-09-2004, 07:46

Just making sure you get the point...

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaviaRS

DO NOT DRIVE IT!

29-08-2004, 18:59	#1
bully Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: suffolk Posts: 89 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	horror its all gone pear shaped driven home from ipswich today and sudden jolt from car and the triangle with arrow round it light came on slowed down turned boost control right down pulled over but nothing felt different so carried on home [10 miles] turned off for hour or so then went back and started up then had 2 warning lights now got the engine shaped light up as well called out the aa after a bit of playing about he said code p0102 mass or volume air flow he reset one of warning lights and said ill have take it in to the dealers. as soon as he left the warning light came back on . ill take it in this week trouble being its been jabbed, remap/dv/boost control/ jabba induction kit ,the latter being the trouble i presume but the reason i went with the jabba one was because people had trouble with other induction kits because of oily filters and the sensor in our engine not liking it so i dont no what to do anyone help please, is it terminal.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bully

29-08-2004, 19:10	#2
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ooo-ar, Oi be from Devonshire Posts: 29,103 Thanks: 60 Thanked 280 Times in 226 Posts	I had the MAF go as well, but not quite as dramatically as that! mine could be due to green filter, but can't be sure. __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

29-08-2004, 21:36	#4
JaneC Beeming Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: North Essex Posts: 3,271 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 15 Posts	It's a Mass Air Flow sensor. If you do a google search on "MAF sensor" then you should find some more information. __________________ Jane.

29-08-2004, 21:59	#6
rich1068 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: North Posts: 2,709 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	MAF is a known VAG weakpoint. __________________ Rich. Skoda Octavia RS

29-08-2004, 22:57	#8
*ColinD* Site owner Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hill & Mountains of North Wales Posts: 10,205 Thanks: 18 Thanked 136 Times in 68 Posts	Well you should be able to claim for a new MAF assuming the normal restrictions. There are as many OEM ones failing as there are with aftermarket induction kits. The weakness is mainly a mechanical stress failure as it's a hot wire that has air flowing over it, the weakness is induced because the air flow is reversed when you dump boost, then as you boot it you draw air back over it. Hope that helps. __________________ ColinD - 97/100 Limited Edition Octavia vRS < For Sale www.BRISKODA.net :: Site Owner. E-Mail : webmaster at briskoda dot net Got a comment to make about the site? Please feel free to use the feedback form here, we welcome your views.

29-08-2004, 21:24	#3
bully Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: suffolk Posts: 89 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	being a bit thick but what is the maf

29-08-2004, 21:56	#5
Aaquil Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Manchester Posts: 464 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I got told that MAF sensors go for all reasons. Some standard car without uprated filters / Induction kits go...so it may not be because of that?

29-08-2004, 22:07	#7
bully Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: suffolk Posts: 89 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks for your help guys i dont know what i would do with out this site

31-08-2004, 23:07	#10
galv Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 121 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	you can get re-con units for about £60-90 depending on the exact one fitted to your car. Its a problem on standard cars too, we fit alot of them! __________________ The Derv Doctor LTD

31-08-2004, 23:31	#11
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,001 Thanks: 41 Thanked 147 Times in 112 Posts	There is now an exchange part number for the MAF on ETKA - ie 06A 906 461LX for the AUQ/AUM/ARX - but I don't have a price. __________________ Denis 2002 Octavia 1.8T 4X4 turbo Estate - rebreathed on by Jabba ... 31.93mpg 2007 Fabia vRS - CC, ESP, Jabba rear ARB, and full leather trim by Seat Surgeons ...47.59 mpg...

01-09-2004, 06:04	#13
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,918 Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	I had the same - DO NOT DRIVE IT! I did and got a £3.5k bill for my trouble It is the MAF and your car will be running lean and you could end up with a rod through the block like I did. Replacement MAFs are about £250, unless you get it under warranty. You can try cleaning it, do a search on here and you'll find instructions. __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

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