Is Jabba or Revo better for a Fabia vRS?

**tfboy** · 16-09-2003, 00:36

Ok chaps.
First of all, it's nice to see there is a decent skoda forum - I was always asking questions on seatcupra.net until I was directed here.

I'm seriously thinking of getting the vRS. However, on seatcupra, they tend to rave about Revo. Here, it seems that Jabba is more often mentioned.

I suppose they all offer pretty much the same thing - but one think I do like with Revo is the 5 hour free "tuned-for-test" where they give you a remap but it only lasts 5 hours or so. Great to try-before-you-buy in my books.

Also, the revo stuff seems to be "stealth" and cannot be detected by vagtest or whatever the ecu diagnostics / testings tools are. I guess a rr will of course reveal all

I suppose you're still better off telling your insurer about it just to clear any possible claim problem. How about the dealer. If it's stealth, does that mean it doesn't effect your warranty? I remember seeing a post about a Jabba'd 'tavia which didn't impact the warranty. How does that work? After all, I don't really wanna spend £10k on a new car to then lose the warranty following a remap!

What's the stat on the Jabba. Looks like Mr.Peck is getting hos new vRS chipped. The chaps on seatcupra raving about revo claim around 180bhp from a tdi130pd, so I guess it's pretty much the same thing with the jabba version.

Lastly (sorry for all these questions from a complete noob!

), does Jabba need to know exactly which ECU the fabia has? I thought that was the case with the revo tuning, but may not be the case for the Jabba tune.

All comments appreciated.

Nice to be the pink smiley on the top of the community! LoL

Sorry, couldn't decide if this should be posted here or in the tuning section. Mods, please move if here's the wrong place. Ta

Fabrs · 16-09-2003, 07:50

Looks like youre going through the same thoughts as me. I also looked at the Ibiza 130, but it a lot more dosh. Found all the used one still at a very high price. Bought myself an RS. Doesnt look like I got the best price and went for Red, even though I'm not sure its the best colour. Value for money wise, the RS is pretty hard to beat.

I'm also looking at the tuning options, and am stuck between AMD, Jabba and Revo. I want it to be serial port and want it done VERY soon. On this count Jabba would appear to be in the lead.

Jonathan

**tfboy** · 16-09-2003, 08:57

Hi Fabrs

Just out of interest, how much did you fork out for it if you don't mind me asking?

When my dealer said he could offer 3 years 0% I thought that's a no brainer, but then again, if skoda are offering that, then someone's paying for the interest free, so maybe you can get a very good price if you pay it cash?

Glad to see I'm not the only one with all those tuning questions

Lets hope some knowledgeable chaps answer with some useful feedback...

AFAIK, Revo could do it, but they'd need to see the car first and get all the ECU details, and on that note, I agree with you that Jabba seem to be ahaead of the rest of the game when it comes to how quickly they can do it...

Cheers
Oh, have you got the car yet? If not, when??? Let us know what you think

***Neo_VR*** · 16-09-2003, 09:08

As far as i know.. on the Seatcupra forums.. Rage has REVO on his TDi 130, and thats pushing 179bhp. Revo only do a "off the shelf" code which is usually sufficient. with Jabba, you have the option of a custom remap, where you can have it tuned the way you want it.. ie driving charicteristics. ive been lead to belive that Rages Revo beast does smoke abit.. and i dont think anyone has had a jabba tune.. altho mr peck is having one on his furby on friday.
personally, i think ill go for jabba, its cheaper than Revo.. and offers a more personalised service.

**tfboy** · 16-09-2003, 09:15

Cheers Neo_VR. Sounds good
With jabba, do they have like several "distributors" or is it just one main site where you get your car "tuned" ?

Edit - Just had a look, and it seems that going to Jabba direct (in Peterborough) is prolly a better bet than going to an agent...
Their prices are cheaper, and since they actually designed the mod (?) they're prolly the best at roaling road testing and making sure all's ok...

FabiaTDi · 16-09-2003, 22:10

Just to say i have a Jabba remap on my PD 100 Fabia and the power delivery is very smooth.

Dyno plot is in the link in my sig.

skodaw · 16-09-2003, 22:19

Hi guy's

With regard to REVO's 5 Hour demo -- I suggest you read the link below --- make your own mind up.
[Click here for REVO strange findings thread

As for Jabba -- they are on there own - they don't have agents -- and are all the better from it...you won't find a more proffesional,friendly outfit going -- you've only got to read the threads on BRISKODA about them -- I have never seen a bad word against them. And having had them work there magic on my vRS Octy - I can really recommend then whole heartedly - you won't be dissappointed.

As for AmD -- again very high rep -- but they don't seam to do quite so well on the results -- and are starting to trade on their name ie prices through the roof compared to others...

JM2PW

Witchfinder · 16-09-2003, 22:35

When I was at Jabba, there was a sign on the wall stating that they reckon they can take VAG 130PD engines to anywhere in the region of 180 BHP, for a measly £425.

SkodiRS · 16-09-2003, 22:39

For the PD diesel Jabba can do serial port programming and this comes in 2 forms IIRC:

generic code a' la REVO/APR

custom remap on the rolling road

the generic code takes a base of 10 cars where as the cusotm remap is a one off deal.

It must also be remembered that Briskoda get a 10% group buy discount ( I really should ask Mike for shares on the company

) for 5-10 people. Or a one off discount of 5%.

I just arranged Briskoda's 3rd group remap buy and so far we've put 24 cars on Jabba rollers since July.

I think the custom remap prices are £475 (just gone up) so a group buy would work out at £427.50....which is a good value for money when comparing against the competition.

If you want I can organise another group buy.....just PM me your name and contact details. Remember we need 5 or more people to get the 10% discount. Failing that individual remaps atttract a 5% discount. Once I've confirmed with Jabba you just ring them to pay your deposit and choose a date for the remap.

Jabba's popularity here is due to their friendly professional service and their vale for money....you'll not find a bigger bang for your buck! REVO is popular on CurpaNet as they are a sponser I believe.....not sure if they get a discount....we certainly don't.

Jabba remind me of how AmD where when they first begin....AmD musch bigger now and unfortunately they seem to have forgotten their roots (IMHO).

Anyway let me know what you want to do about a group buy.
Cheers.
Adrian.

Fabpreza · 17-09-2003, 08:45

Quote:

Originally posted by SkodiRS in this post

Jabba remind me of how AmD where when they first begin....AmD musch bigger now and unfortunately they seem to have forgotten their roots (IMHO).

I think that AMD have got greedy, and the reception I have had from them on two occasions I've visited them in the last 12 months meant that I spent my money at Jabba instead.

The difference I found is that Jabba are equally as busy, have a growing reputation, and are genuinely happy to spend time talking you through the options, rather than thinking about the next £1000...

Rob

redbaron · 17-09-2003, 08:54

Go Jabba dont go revo. Plenty of threads on here / cupranet vortex etc to explain why...

FightingDiva · 17-09-2003, 09:38

I'd say go for the cheapest remap you could get. So in this case it would be the Jabba remap.

I don't know if you've heard about pulling out the maximum of the injectors dutycycle etc. would be interesting to see what the failures on injectors would be with those "remapped" cars.

But then again, i've never heard or read in any thread that for example "I chipped my car and it broke".

Cheers,

FD

nat · 17-09-2003, 13:44

all the revo stuff is about the trial not the actual permanent software so just be aware of that. but most people on here do seem to have jabba. REVO FOR ME THOUGH

Fabrs · 18-09-2003, 19:24

Well just to be different, Ive booked in for a custom remapping with AMD via the serial port. Why ? Well although their web site needs updating Ive heard good things about their 130 remaps.

Better than Jabba ? Not something I want to enter into. My guess is they will both deliver equal power, but it could be delivered in a different way.

Will post graphs etc when I have them.

Jonathan

MonkeyHanger · 18-09-2003, 19:39

Quote:

Originally posted by nat in this post
all the revo stuff is about the trial not the actual permanent software so just be aware of that. but most people on here do seem to have jabba. REVO FOR ME THOUGH

And don't forget to add 17.5% VAT onto the prices for REVO.

Meanwhile Jabba quote inclusive prices...

So, REVO is £499 + VAT (For which you get a 10 minute upload from a laptop)

Jabba (after the price rise) is £475 (For which you get full Dyno checks & results, and about 4 hours worth of Work & Expertise)

At one point i was leaning towards REVO, but i'd rather have it all set up properly thanx.

8 days & Counting... :drive:

SkodiRS · 18-09-2003, 19:50

Regarding the REVO issues.......IIRC the trial is ok it's just the reversion to the "standard" setup that some people have had "issue" with.

If you decide to go with the software all REVO do is re-enable the code that's already on there. However some people have had engine issues when reverting to the standard setup once the trial has expired There are a few threads here which go in to it in more detail.

Not dissing just conveying the findings of some members.

At the end of the day as long as you're happy with what you're getting and the result, that's all that matters.

AmD......you don't get a rep like Geoff's not knowing anything or producing shoddy work.....always been on the expensive side just even more so now and customer service seems to have taken a bit of a hit with growth in size.

Just MHO.
Cheers.
Adrian.

Fabpreza · 18-09-2003, 20:08

Quote:

Originally posted by SkodiRS in this post

AmD......customer service seems to have taken a bit of a hit with growth in size.Just MHO.Cheers.Adrian.

Bear this in mind

SkodiRS · 19-09-2003, 13:13

Just been checking out Seat Enthusiats site....big thread on REVO issue highlighted here.

A " good on yer" to Bill for some sensible reasoning BUT I can also see where the guys are coming from. REVO apparrently looking into it and hopefully can sort out peeps issues.

Heres'the thread:

http://http://www.seatenthusiasts.co...threadid=14170

Lummox · 04-10-2003, 18:19

Quote:

Originally posted by Fabrs in this post
Well although their web site needs updating Ive heard good things about their 130 remaps.

Jonathan

Our website has been updated now

Look forward to seeing you and your car on Monday

Also there are alot of changes going on at AmD currently. It is being made alot more customer friendly as a new reception and waiting area is being built and more staff are being employed to provide a better level of service (including me : ).

Fabpreza · 04-10-2003, 19:55

Good - it was sorely needed.

I felt that AMD were solely catering for the rich rather than the enthusiast.

Rob

16-09-2003, 00:36	#1
tfboy C+ à Paris! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tilehurst, Berkshire Posts: 6,197 Thanks: 18 Thanked 59 Times in 50 Posts	Is Jabba or Revo better for Fabia vRS Ok chaps. First of all, it's nice to see there is a decent skoda forum - I was always asking questions on seatcupra.net until I was directed here. I'm seriously thinking of getting the vRS. However, on seatcupra, they tend to rave about Revo. Here, it seems that Jabba is more often mentioned. I suppose they all offer pretty much the same thing - but one think I do like with Revo is the 5 hour free "tuned-for-test" where they give you a remap but it only lasts 5 hours or so. Great to try-before-you-buy in my books. Also, the revo stuff seems to be "stealth" and cannot be detected by vagtest or whatever the ecu diagnostics / testings tools are. I guess a rr will of course reveal all I suppose you're still better off telling your insurer about it just to clear any possible claim problem. How about the dealer. If it's stealth, does that mean it doesn't effect your warranty? I remember seeing a post about a Jabba'd 'tavia which didn't impact the warranty. How does that work? After all, I don't really wanna spend £10k on a new car to then lose the warranty following a remap! What's the stat on the Jabba. Looks like Mr.Peck is getting hos new vRS chipped. The chaps on seatcupra raving about revo claim around 180bhp from a tdi130pd, so I guess it's pretty much the same thing with the jabba version. Lastly (sorry for all these questions from a complete noob! ), does Jabba need to know exactly which ECU the fabia has? I thought that was the case with the revo tuning, but may not be the case for the Jabba tune. All comments appreciated. Nice to be the pink smiley on the top of the community! LoL Sorry, couldn't decide if this should be posted here or in the tuning section. Mods, please move if here's the wrong place. Ta

16-09-2003, 09:08	#4
*Neo_VR* UberMod™ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 12,103 Thanks: 67 Thanked 164 Times in 114 Posts	As far as i know.. on the Seatcupra forums.. Rage has REVO on his TDi 130, and thats pushing 179bhp. Revo only do a "off the shelf" code which is usually sufficient. with Jabba, you have the option of a custom remap, where you can have it tuned the way you want it.. ie driving charicteristics. ive been lead to belive that Rages Revo beast does smoke abit.. and i dont think anyone has had a jabba tune.. altho mr peck is having one on his furby on friday. personally, i think ill go for jabba, its cheaper than Revo.. and offers a more personalised service. __________________ ColGod the UberMod VXR, Gti, ST, Type-R, vRS, Cupra, Shifty... An MPS fears not these things...

16-09-2003, 09:15	#5
tfboy C+ à Paris! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tilehurst, Berkshire Posts: 6,197 Thanks: 18 Thanked 59 Times in 50 Posts	Cheers Neo_VR. Sounds good With jabba, do they have like several "distributors" or is it just one main site where you get your car "tuned" ? Edit - Just had a look, and it seems that going to Jabba direct (in Peterborough) is prolly a better bet than going to an agent... Their prices are cheaper, and since they actually designed the mod (?) they're prolly the best at roaling road testing and making sure all's ok... __________________ Xavier Last edited by tfboy; 16-09-2003 at 09:31.

16-09-2003, 22:10	#6
FabiaTDi VT5 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 2,016 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just to say i have a Jabba remap on my PD 100 Fabia and the power delivery is very smooth. Dyno plot is in the link in my sig. __________________ Was: 2003 Allard Tuned Fabia vRS VT5 Turbo Conversion Now: 2008 Audi A3 Sportback TDI

16-09-2003, 22:19	#7
skodaw Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: This area is under construction - please call back later :) Posts: 3,186 Thanks: 2 Thanked 9 Times in 5 Posts	Hi guy's With regard to REVO's 5 Hour demo -- I suggest you read the link below --- make your own mind up. [Click here for REVO strange findings thread As for Jabba -- they are on there own - they don't have agents -- and are all the better from it...you won't find a more proffesional,friendly outfit going -- you've only got to read the threads on BRISKODA about them -- I have never seen a bad word against them. And having had them work there magic on my vRS Octy - I can really recommend then whole heartedly - you won't be dissappointed. As for AmD -- again very high rep -- but they don't seam to do quite so well on the results -- and are starting to trade on their name ie prices through the roof compared to others... JM2PW __________________ Dave '05 Silver Fabia vRS

16-09-2003, 07:50	#2
Fabrs Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Looks like youre going through the same thoughts as me. I also looked at the Ibiza 130, but it a lot more dosh. Found all the used one still at a very high price. Bought myself an RS. Doesnt look like I got the best price and went for Red, even though I'm not sure its the best colour. Value for money wise, the RS is pretty hard to beat. I'm also looking at the tuning options, and am stuck between AMD, Jabba and Revo. I want it to be serial port and want it done VERY soon. On this count Jabba would appear to be in the lead. Jonathan

16-09-2003, 08:57	#3
tfboy C+ à Paris! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tilehurst, Berkshire Posts: 6,197 Thanks: 18 Thanked 59 Times in 50 Posts	Hi Fabrs Just out of interest, how much did you fork out for it if you don't mind me asking? When my dealer said he could offer 3 years 0% I thought that's a no brainer, but then again, if skoda are offering that, then someone's paying for the interest free, so maybe you can get a very good price if you pay it cash? Glad to see I'm not the only one with all those tuning questions Lets hope some knowledgeable chaps answer with some useful feedback... AFAIK, Revo could do it, but they'd need to see the car first and get all the ECU details, and on that note, I agree with you that Jabba seem to be ahaead of the rest of the game when it comes to how quickly they can do it... Cheers Oh, have you got the car yet? If not, when??? Let us know what you think

16-09-2003, 22:35	#8
Witchfinder Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Wheelspinning 'round the wet roads of Manchester Posts: 1,284 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	When I was at Jabba, there was a sign on the wall stating that they reckon they can take VAG 130PD engines to anywhere in the region of 180 BHP, for a measly £425. __________________ Rob Illing Play Interstellar War: "Fleet Battles" and "Conquest" for free! The ST220 has landed! Die Micra, Die!

16-09-2003, 22:39	#9
SkodiRS BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: darkest Hampshire Posts: 8,650 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts	For the PD diesel Jabba can do serial port programming and this comes in 2 forms IIRC: generic code a' la REVO/APR custom remap on the rolling road the generic code takes a base of 10 cars where as the cusotm remap is a one off deal. It must also be remembered that Briskoda get a 10% group buy discount ( I really should ask Mike for shares on the company ) for 5-10 people. Or a one off discount of 5%. I just arranged Briskoda's 3rd group remap buy and so far we've put 24 cars on Jabba rollers since July. I think the custom remap prices are £475 (just gone up) so a group buy would work out at £427.50....which is a good value for money when comparing against the competition. If you want I can organise another group buy.....just PM me your name and contact details. Remember we need 5 or more people to get the 10% discount. Failing that individual remaps atttract a 5% discount. Once I've confirmed with Jabba you just ring them to pay your deposit and choose a date for the remap. Jabba's popularity here is due to their friendly professional service and their vale for money....you'll not find a bigger bang for your buck! REVO is popular on CurpaNet as they are a sponser I believe.....not sure if they get a discount....we certainly don't. Jabba remind me of how AmD where when they first begin....AmD musch bigger now and unfortunately they seem to have forgotten their roots (IMHO). Anyway let me know what you want to do about a group buy. Cheers. Adrian. __________________ Adrian. Last edited by SkodiRS; 16-09-2003 at 22:41.

17-09-2003, 08:54	#11
redbaron Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,515 Thanks: 13 Thanked 66 Times in 58 Posts	Go Jabba dont go revo. Plenty of threads on here / cupranet vortex etc to explain why... __________________ ________________________________________ Some times I just feel like smiling.

17-09-2003, 09:38	#12
FightingDiva Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 224 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'd say go for the cheapest remap you could get. So in this case it would be the Jabba remap. I don't know if you've heard about pulling out the maximum of the injectors dutycycle etc. would be interesting to see what the failures on injectors would be with those "remapped" cars. But then again, i've never heard or read in any thread that for example "I chipped my car and it broke". Cheers, FD __________________ Regards, FightingDiva http://www.skodaklubben.com Member of the Skoda Club in Sweden

17-09-2003, 13:44	#13
nat Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: uk Posts: 136 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	all the revo stuff is about the trial not the actual permanent software so just be aware of that. but most people on here do seem to have jabba. REVO FOR ME THOUGH __________________ nat ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- octavia wrc 34/100 Modified?

18-09-2003, 19:24	#14
Fabrs Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well just to be different, Ive booked in for a custom remapping with AMD via the serial port. Why ? Well although their web site needs updating Ive heard good things about their 130 remaps. Better than Jabba ? Not something I want to enter into. My guess is they will both deliver equal power, but it could be delivered in a different way. Will post graphs etc when I have them. Jonathan

18-09-2003, 19:50	#16
SkodiRS BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: darkest Hampshire Posts: 8,650 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts	Regarding the REVO issues.......IIRC the trial is ok it's just the reversion to the "standard" setup that some people have had "issue" with. If you decide to go with the software all REVO do is re-enable the code that's already on there. However some people have had engine issues when reverting to the standard setup once the trial has expired There are a few threads here which go in to it in more detail. Not dissing just conveying the findings of some members. At the end of the day as long as you're happy with what you're getting and the result, that's all that matters. AmD......you don't get a rep like Geoff's not knowing anything or producing shoddy work.....always been on the expensive side just even more so now and customer service seems to have taken a bit of a hit with growth in size. Just MHO. Cheers. Adrian. __________________ Adrian.

19-09-2003, 13:13	#18
SkodiRS BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: darkest Hampshire Posts: 8,650 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts	Just been checking out Seat Enthusiats site....big thread on REVO issue highlighted here. A " good on yer" to Bill for some sensible reasoning BUT I can also see where the guys are coming from. REVO apparrently looking into it and hopefully can sort out peeps issues. Heres'the thread: http://http://www.seatenthusiasts.co...threadid=14170 __________________ Adrian.

04-10-2003, 19:55	#20
Fabpreza Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SE Posts: 1,515 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Good - it was sorely needed. I felt that AMD were solely catering for the rich rather than the enthusiast. Rob

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