My car is poorly

**TaviaRS** · 11-03-2003, 08:09

Came out of the hotel this morning, pootled along for a couple fo miles, joined the motorway, gave it some beans to accelerate and hey I have a normally aspirated RS!

It would appear that the turbo ain't blowing which leaves me with 2 options:

1. Take it to a dealer and get a new turbo under warranty
2. Take it to Jabba and make it a bit of a monster!

Decisions, decisions.

First thing to do is to go put VAGCOM on it to see if there are any fault codes, strangely no funny lights on the dash, didn't sound rough or loud, just no boost.

Stuart_J · 11-03-2003, 08:22

Hope its nothing to do with me !!!! was I tooooo gentle with it???

You can guess my thoughts but they are very busy at the moment. I tried the Seat on Saturday & its a real handful with all the poke driving the front end but its FUN FUN FUN !!!!!

Turbo² · 11-03-2003, 08:27

option number 2.
JABBA! and 290 bhp+ !
:drive1:

**TaviaRS** · 11-03-2003, 08:32

OK, done the VAG.COM bit and I have 3 fault codes, as follows:

16804: Catalyst System Efficiency Below threshold (Bank 1) 35-10: intermittent

16502: Engine Coolant Temp. Sensor (G62): Signal too High. 35-10: intermittent

17705: Pressure drop between Turbo and throttle valve (check DV!) 35-00

Any ideas? Other than the obvious check dump valve.

Stuart, nah it weren't you (unless you want to admit liability?

).

Found the UK distributor we talked about but can't find the place in Soton that do it (will keep looking). UK distributor is:

Motorsport International Ltd
Unit 2, 104 Branbridges Road
East Peckham, Kent TN12 5HH, UK
Fon: 0044-8702 412 382
Fax: 0044-1622 872291
eMail: richard@msionline.co.uk

Hope that helps.

Jon

swrtwannabe · 11-03-2003, 08:37

Are you sure the 1.4 16v versions have turbos?

Hope you get it sorted - but from your list at the top, option 2 is the most tempting

Stuart_J · 11-03-2003, 08:40

Thanks Jon

Perhaps your car is just saying it wants a rest, its probably heard you mentioning the ring again !!!

westy04 · 11-03-2003, 08:48

I am getting a simmilar problem with mine.

I have occasionally noticed that I have no or very little boost. But when I turn the engine off and then back on again, all is then fine. This has only happened a couple of times and again, no errors are shown on the dash.

Any ideas guys ???

***DGW*** · 11-03-2003, 10:14

On a point of order, and as one Moderator to another, shouldn't this thread be in: My Lack of Performance?

When the temperature sender failed on my Felicia the car wouldn't idle when cold, but the engine was fine when warm. The sender was indicating 122°C rather than the correct 80°C.

***ColinD*** · 11-03-2003, 10:44

Jon,

I would do 1. then do 2. assuming 1 has no cost to you and 2 is in your mind anyway, best of both worlds maybe.

re 2. I have 2 options for late q2, maybe q3

Jabba and APR, yes there still here and it's a garret (used on WRC and made down the road) But can't do anything untill my liccle van has some handling and stopping mods.

**TaviaRS** · 11-03-2003, 10:56

Just serviced the dump valve, it was pretty gunky and 'orrible. Cleared out the fault codes. Will soon find out whether it was that or not.

Westy, you got standard or uprated DV? If its standard, are you getting a "honking" type noise? If so take it to a dealer ASAP and get it replaced! If its an uprated one, take it to pieces, clean it and re-grease it.

As for the temp sender one, taking it to a dealer to get it checked out. The cat, well that will be a Milltek problem (its under warranty) if indeed there is something wrong with it.

Re the options, Colin you are right. Option 1 is the way to go, assuming that it is the turbo and comes under warranty. Hopefully they won't pull the "wear and tear" excuse due to mileage. If they do I feel a trip to a scrappy coming on, followed by a booking into Jabba. If they don't, well, I'm happy with what I've got and I can spend the money on the rally car instead!

**TaviaRS** · 11-03-2003, 15:19

Sorted! My car is now back to full health

No bigger turbo for me then.

Just happy its sorted though.

Westy, get someone (dealer or someone with VAGCOM) to read your fault codes.

Jon

westy04 · 11-03-2003, 16:02

Cheers Jon, will do

steve · 11-03-2003, 18:48

Pleased to here you've sorted it.
With the money saved you could treat your self to some new tyres

Steve

**TaviaRS** · 11-03-2003, 18:59

Already got 8 spares in the garage, why would I want more???

Turbo² · 13-03-2003, 08:56

Quote:

Originally posted by TaviaRS
Sorted! My car is now back to full health No bigger turbo for me then.

Just happy its sorted though.

Westy, get someone (dealer or someone with VAGCOM) to read your fault codes.

Jon

well, was it the DV?

**TaviaRS** · 14-03-2003, 08:27

Yep, it was the DV. Normally I give it a clean and regrease every 10-15,000 miles. Just realised I hadn't done it for about 25-30000

But it works OK now

Turbo² · 14-03-2003, 08:39

Quote:

Originally posted by TaviaRS
Yep, it was the DV. Normally I give it a clean and regrease every 10-15,000 miles. Just realised I hadn't done it for about 25-30000

But it works OK now

you have a forge dv006 right?

there is no diaprham (spelling?) in that one right?, just a metallic piston.. ?

**TaviaRS** · 14-03-2003, 09:00

Can't remember if mine's a 6 or 7. Neither have a diaphragm, just a piston. Easy to clean though.

11-03-2003, 08:09	#1
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,931 Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	My car is poorly Came out of the hotel this morning, pootled along for a couple fo miles, joined the motorway, gave it some beans to accelerate and hey I have a normally aspirated RS! It would appear that the turbo ain't blowing which leaves me with 2 options: 1. Take it to a dealer and get a new turbo under warranty 2. Take it to Jabba and make it a bit of a monster! Decisions, decisions. First thing to do is to go put VAGCOM on it to see if there are any fault codes, strangely no funny lights on the dash, didn't sound rough or loud, just no boost. __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

11-03-2003, 08:22	#2
Stuart_J Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Winchester Posts: 5,605 Thanks: 38 Thanked 81 Times in 74 Posts	Hope its nothing to do with me !!!! was I tooooo gentle with it??? You can guess my thoughts but they are very busy at the moment. I tried the Seat on Saturday & its a real handful with all the poke driving the front end but its FUN FUN FUN !!!!! __________________ Speed is an addiction for which thankfully there is no cure

11-03-2003, 08:32	#4
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,931 Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	OK, done the VAG.COM bit and I have 3 fault codes, as follows: 16804: Catalyst System Efficiency Below threshold (Bank 1) 35-10: intermittent 16502: Engine Coolant Temp. Sensor (G62): Signal too High. 35-10: intermittent 17705: Pressure drop between Turbo and throttle valve (check DV!) 35-00 Any ideas? Other than the obvious check dump valve. Stuart, nah it weren't you (unless you want to admit liability? ). Found the UK distributor we talked about but can't find the place in Soton that do it (will keep looking). UK distributor is: Motorsport International Ltd Unit 2, 104 Branbridges Road East Peckham, Kent TN12 5HH, UK Fon: 0044-8702 412 382 Fax: 0044-1622 872291 eMail: richard@msionline.co.uk Hope that helps. Jon __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

11-03-2003, 08:40	#6
Stuart_J Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Winchester Posts: 5,605 Thanks: 38 Thanked 81 Times in 74 Posts	Thanks Jon Perhaps your car is just saying it wants a rest, its probably heard you mentioning the ring again !!! __________________ Speed is an addiction for which thankfully there is no cure

11-03-2003, 10:14	#8
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,135 Thanks: 49 Thanked 173 Times in 130 Posts	On a point of order, and as one Moderator to another, shouldn't this thread be in: My Lack of Performance? When the temperature sender failed on my Felicia the car wouldn't idle when cold, but the engine was fine when warm. The sender was indicating 122°C rather than the correct 80°C. __________________ Denis 2002 Octavia 1.8T 4X4 turbo Estate - rebreathed on by Jabba ... 31.93mpg 2007 Fabia vRS - CC, ESP and full leather trim by Seat Surgeons ...48.09 mpg...

11-03-2003, 08:27	#3
Turbo² Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 88 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	option number 2. JABBA! and 290 bhp+ ! :drive1:

11-03-2003, 08:37	#5
swrtwannabe Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 53 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Are you sure the 1.4 16v versions have turbos? Hope you get it sorted - but from your list at the top, option 2 is the most tempting

11-03-2003, 08:48	#7
westy04 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South Birmingham Posts: 54 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I am getting a simmilar problem with mine. I have occasionally noticed that I have no or very little boost. But when I turn the engine off and then back on again, all is then fine. This has only happened a couple of times and again, no errors are shown on the dash. Any ideas guys ???

11-03-2003, 10:44	#9
*ColinD* Site owner Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hill & Mountains of North Wales Posts: 10,226 Thanks: 22 Thanked 145 Times in 73 Posts	Jon, I would do 1. then do 2. assuming 1 has no cost to you and 2 is in your mind anyway, best of both worlds maybe. re 2. I have 2 options for late q2, maybe q3 Jabba and APR, yes there still here and it's a garret (used on WRC and made down the road) But can't do anything untill my liccle van has some handling and stopping mods. __________________ ColinD - 97/100 Limited Edition Octavia vRS < For Sale www.BRISKODA.net :: Site Owner. E-Mail : webmaster at briskoda dot net Got a comment to make about the site? Please feel free to use the feedback form here, we welcome your views.

11-03-2003, 10:56	#10
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,931 Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Just serviced the dump valve, it was pretty gunky and 'orrible. Cleared out the fault codes. Will soon find out whether it was that or not. Westy, you got standard or uprated DV? If its standard, are you getting a "honking" type noise? If so take it to a dealer ASAP and get it replaced! If its an uprated one, take it to pieces, clean it and re-grease it. As for the temp sender one, taking it to a dealer to get it checked out. The cat, well that will be a Milltek problem (its under warranty) if indeed there is something wrong with it. Re the options, Colin you are right. Option 1 is the way to go, assuming that it is the turbo and comes under warranty. Hopefully they won't pull the "wear and tear" excuse due to mileage. If they do I feel a trip to a scrappy coming on, followed by a booking into Jabba. If they don't, well, I'm happy with what I've got and I can spend the money on the rally car instead! __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

11-03-2003, 15:19	#11
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,931 Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Sorted! My car is now back to full health No bigger turbo for me then. Just happy its sorted though. Westy, get someone (dealer or someone with VAGCOM) to read your fault codes. Jon __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

11-03-2003, 16:02	#12
westy04 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South Birmingham Posts: 54 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Cheers Jon, will do

11-03-2003, 18:48	#13
steve Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: London Posts: 1,020 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Pleased to here you've sorted it. With the money saved you could treat your self to some new tyres Steve

11-03-2003, 18:59	#14
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,931 Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Already got 8 spares in the garage, why would I want more??? __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

14-03-2003, 08:27	#16
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,931 Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Yep, it was the DV. Normally I give it a clean and regrease every 10-15,000 miles. Just realised I hadn't done it for about 25-30000 But it works OK now __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

14-03-2003, 09:00	#18
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,931 Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Can't remember if mine's a 6 or 7. Neither have a diaphragm, just a piston. Easy to clean though. __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

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