Running problems on RS

sgreen · 14-04-2003, 10:35

I am new to this forum but I have a couple of problems with my RS:-

Problem 1: On start up from cold the engine starts OK, however if drive away while the engine is in its fast idle program (1200rpm), then it either drives but runs a bit rough, or it sometimes it won’t drive and feels like its running on two cylinders and pressing the accelerator does not have any effect. The only way to remedy this is to switch the engine off and start it again. It then starts fine.

Problem 2: During normal (slow) driving the engine is not as smooth as it was. The engine sometimes surges from around 1500rpm and it is most noticeable in first and second gear. You can feel the engine surge and then something shuts off just before the turbo comes in at 2000rpm.

The dealer has had a look and not found the problem as yet, however it is at the dealers tomorrow for another look.

Stuart
Silver RS

**robmawer** · 14-04-2003, 10:56

Hmm...I haven't a clue, but I'd say it sounds like dodgy engine management.

Welcome to Briskoda - do you fancy giving your car a good test on Thursday evening?

Rob.

**mannyo** · 14-04-2003, 11:37

Hi and welcome

Does not sound like a coilpack, perhaps your maf (mass air flow) thingy is playing up. or another sensor, do you get the check engine light come on? it maybe worth a quick visit to the dealer to hook up onto the diag equipment to see if any error codes are showing.

sgreen · 14-04-2003, 12:06

No the engine management light does not come on. It is at the dealers tommorrow again anyway, but I will mention the MAF sensor to them as i have read somewhere else that that could be the cause.

Thanks.

Stuart.

**GAFF** · 14-04-2003, 16:22

Problem 2 sounds like what was happening to mine, the dealer told me it was normal so I had to get on to him a few times about it, eventually he changed the MAF and it sorted the problem. Try searching for MAF to find the thread

Tavia4x4 · 14-04-2003, 16:44

Who is your dealer?

If they can't resolve it get up to Horners near the centre, speak to Gary, mention Briskoda, good service and a 10% discount.

..and once fixed, come along to a thursday night northern meet

stevstav · 14-04-2003, 20:55

How many km for your car?
Possibilities for surging if it is not chipped:
A) Not the original filter but a "free" one (confuses the MAF).
B) Dirty MAF (you'll find info at the FAQ how to clean it).
Possibilities for unstable idle and rough low driving:
Dirty throttle body. Needs cleaning and readjusting. If you disconnect
the batery when you dismantle to clean it, it will readjust itself
by the time you turn the ignition key to ON. Just wait 40 sec for the
noises to stop, then go to OFF then ON & Start.
What puzzles me is that when you switch off and start again remedies the problem!

**GAFF** · 15-04-2003, 08:21

Quote:

Originally posted by Tavia4x4 in this post
Who is your dealer?

If they can't resolve it get up to Horners near the centre, speak to Gary, mention Briskoda, good service and a 10% discount.

..and once fixed, come along to a thursday night northern meet

This would be difficult for me as I'm in Ireland

Fabia RS · 14-08-2004, 21:54

Very bad style not to post solution, when problem is solved.

Somebody else could be having the excact same problem - Like me for instance

MonkeyHanger · 14-08-2004, 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabia RS

Very bad style not to post solution, when problem is solved.

Somebody else could be having the excact same problem - Like me for instance

Normally i'd agree, but as the original poster drives an Octy RS, and you would seem to be a Fabia driver, i doubt it's the same thing

However..

Welcome

Fabia RS · 14-08-2004, 23:12

You are absolutely right about the Fabia

But the construction of both turbo-engines are very similar, and since mine have the exact same symptoms, any indications could come in handy, as Im taking it to my garage on wednesday.

Thanks for the welcome

sgreen · 19-08-2004, 20:25

Before I get slagged off anymore for not posting a reply. It was the induction pipe that had gone soft due to heat from the manifold and this was collapsing under vacuum.

Stuart.

Fabia RS · 19-08-2004, 22:14

Hey,

Thanks for giving me closure

Any clue I can get, might come in handy in locating my own problem, so cheers.

SilveRS · 05-03-2005, 23:44

Just to give people an update, I have got similar symptoms to this. I swapped out the Green Filter for the paper one but it has made no difference, and done the calibration trick without success. So I rang the dealer this week with details from this thread and they informed me of a technical bulletin that Skoda technical have issued, related to the induction pipe going soft. My car is booked in at the end of the month, so will post when they have sorted it, or I hope they do as my warranty runs out in April.

fastVeRSion · 06-03-2005, 00:57

I definately have have symptom No 2. and to a lesser extent symptom 1 as well. Do you know if the induction pipe problem generates any error codes? Getting my VAGCOM cable next week so will be able to check to see whats come up on mine - if anything....

SilveRS · 06-03-2005, 20:46

Don't know about any specific error codes, I don't have VAG COM and didn't get the dealer to run their equivalent tool as there was a technical bulletin issued. They just booked it in for the end of the month and ordered some new parts.

If you car is still under warranty then just do the same and get is sorted by the dealer.

fastVeRSion · 06-03-2005, 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilveRS

If you car is still under warranty then just do the same and get is sorted by the dealer.

It is .. just about - it runs out at the end of the month.

It was in for a service 2 weeks ago and i mentioned the running problems to them. They replaced a 'high pressure intercooler pipe' under warranty, but im still left with the running probs.

SilveRS · 07-03-2005, 19:37

It must be the MAF then. Just ring them up and ask to have the MAF looked at, or replaced before your warranty expires. I don't think it's an expensive part, but that isn't the point. My warranty expires on 6th April and my car is booked in for the 22nd of this month, but if it isn't sorted I’ll be back of the phone as the fault occurred during the warranty period.

Mircea · 07-03-2005, 19:52

As my car has the symptom nr2, especially in warm weather... Can someone be more specific about the pipe that is collapsing?? Part number or a clear description...

Thank you.

fastVeRSion · 07-03-2005, 23:29

Well mine went into limp mode again on the way to work this morning (no boost), which it was doing before it got serviced. It usually does this after a fit of poor running after a cold start.

In a way I'm glad that happened because I'm pretty sure there'll be error codes logged now, so will book it back in this week.

I haven't got a part number for the pipe they replaced on mine, as it was a warranty job so it didn't go on my bill. It might not have been the same part anyway - I was told they replaced it because of a leak.

14-04-2003, 10:35	#1
sgreen Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Stalybridge Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Running problems on RS I am new to this forum but I have a couple of problems with my RS:- Problem 1: On start up from cold the engine starts OK, however if drive away while the engine is in its fast idle program (1200rpm), then it either drives but runs a bit rough, or it sometimes it won’t drive and feels like its running on two cylinders and pressing the accelerator does not have any effect. The only way to remedy this is to switch the engine off and start it again. It then starts fine. Problem 2: During normal (slow) driving the engine is not as smooth as it was. The engine sometimes surges from around 1500rpm and it is most noticeable in first and second gear. You can feel the engine surge and then something shuts off just before the turbo comes in at 2000rpm. The dealer has had a look and not found the problem as yet, however it is at the dealers tomorrow for another look. Stuart Silver RS

14-04-2003, 10:56	#2
robmawer Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Rochdale Posts: 12,422 Thanks: 2 Thanked 69 Times in 62 Posts	Hmm...I haven't a clue, but I'd say it sounds like dodgy engine management. Welcome to Briskoda - do you fancy giving your car a good test on Thursday evening? Rob. __________________

14-04-2003, 11:37	#3
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 11,112 Thanks: 36 Thanked 304 Times in 284 Posts	Hi and welcome Does not sound like a coilpack, perhaps your maf (mass air flow) thingy is playing up. or another sensor, do you get the check engine light come on? it maybe worth a quick visit to the dealer to hook up onto the diag equipment to see if any error codes are showing. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

14-04-2003, 16:44	#6
Tavia4x4 Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: J5 M61 Posts: 5,294 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Who is your dealer? If they can't resolve it get up to Horners near the centre, speak to Gary, mention Briskoda, good service and a 10% discount. ..and once fixed, come along to a thursday night northern meet __________________ Ian __________________ Nice to be important, but more important to be nice...

14-08-2004, 21:54	#9
Fabia RS Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 84 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Very bad style not to post solution, when problem is solved. Somebody else could be having the excact same problem - Like me for instance __________________ Fabia RS the ultimate toy for real men!

14-04-2003, 12:06	#4
sgreen Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Stalybridge Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	No the engine management light does not come on. It is at the dealers tommorrow again anyway, but I will mention the MAF sensor to them as i have read somewhere else that that could be the cause. Thanks. Stuart.

14-04-2003, 16:22	#5
GAFF Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 5,772 Thanks: 25 Thanked 65 Times in 63 Posts	Problem 2 sounds like what was happening to mine, the dealer told me it was normal so I had to get on to him a few times about it, eventually he changed the MAF and it sorted the problem. Try searching for MAF to find the thread

14-04-2003, 20:55	#7
stevstav Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Athens-Greece Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	How many km for your car? Possibilities for surging if it is not chipped: A) Not the original filter but a "free" one (confuses the MAF). B) Dirty MAF (you'll find info at the FAQ how to clean it). Possibilities for unstable idle and rough low driving: Dirty throttle body. Needs cleaning and readjusting. If you disconnect the batery when you dismantle to clean it, it will readjust itself by the time you turn the ignition key to ON. Just wait 40 sec for the noises to stop, then go to OFF then ON & Start. What puzzles me is that when you switch off and start again remedies the problem!

14-08-2004, 23:12	#11
Fabia RS Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 84 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You are absolutely right about the Fabia But the construction of both turbo-engines are very similar, and since mine have the exact same symptoms, any indications could come in handy, as Im taking it to my garage on wednesday. Thanks for the welcome __________________ Fabia RS the ultimate toy for real men!

19-08-2004, 20:25	#12
sgreen Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Stalybridge Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Before I get slagged off anymore for not posting a reply. It was the induction pipe that had gone soft due to heat from the manifold and this was collapsing under vacuum. Stuart.

19-08-2004, 22:14	#13
Fabia RS Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 84 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey, Thanks for giving me closure Any clue I can get, might come in handy in locating my own problem, so cheers. __________________ Fabia RS the ultimate toy for real men!

05-03-2005, 23:44	#14
SilveRS Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: North Manchester Posts: 633 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Just to give people an update, I have got similar symptoms to this. I swapped out the Green Filter for the paper one but it has made no difference, and done the calibration trick without success. So I rang the dealer this week with details from this thread and they informed me of a technical bulletin that Skoda technical have issued, related to the induction pipe going soft. My car is booked in at the end of the month, so will post when they have sorted it, or I hope they do as my warranty runs out in April.

06-03-2005, 00:57	#15
fastVeRSion Briskodian Join Date: May 2004 Location: North West Posts: 408 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I definately have have symptom No 2. and to a lesser extent symptom 1 as well. Do you know if the induction pipe problem generates any error codes? Getting my VAGCOM cable next week so will be able to check to see whats come up on mine - if anything....

06-03-2005, 20:46	#16
SilveRS Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: North Manchester Posts: 633 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Don't know about any specific error codes, I don't have VAG COM and didn't get the dealer to run their equivalent tool as there was a technical bulletin issued. They just booked it in for the end of the month and ordered some new parts. If you car is still under warranty then just do the same and get is sorted by the dealer.

07-03-2005, 19:37	#18
SilveRS Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: North Manchester Posts: 633 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	It must be the MAF then. Just ring them up and ask to have the MAF looked at, or replaced before your warranty expires. I don't think it's an expensive part, but that isn't the point. My warranty expires on 6th April and my car is booked in for the 22nd of this month, but if it isn't sorted I’ll be back of the phone as the fault occurred during the warranty period.

07-03-2005, 19:52	#19
Mircea Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	As my car has the symptom nr2, especially in warm weather... Can someone be more specific about the pipe that is collapsing?? Part number or a clear description... Thank you.

07-03-2005, 23:29	#20
fastVeRSion Briskodian Join Date: May 2004 Location: North West Posts: 408 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well mine went into limp mode again on the way to work this morning (no boost), which it was doing before it got serviced. It usually does this after a fit of poor running after a cold start. In a way I'm glad that happened because I'm pretty sure there'll be error codes logged now, so will book it back in this week. I haven't got a part number for the pipe they replaced on mine, as it was a warranty job so it didn't go on my bill. It might not have been the same part anyway - I was told they replaced it because of a leak.

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