Tuning a Favorit

**TaviaRS** · 11-03-2003, 18:45

What sort of power can you get from them, without adding forced induction.

Erik@aat · 14-03-2003, 10:58

The one I should be navigating in this year reckons he'll have about 120 (not sure if he's for real or not....)
Stick a 1400 16V in it and go the whole AAT hog ~> 215bhp

or 232 from a 1600 16v.....

MeatballTurbo · 08-03-2004, 09:19

135bhp is possible, but it is down to good old dirty lightening, and balancing, and free flow exhausts, porting the head and fitting big valves, and huge twin Webers or Dellortos.

The engine with be just as reliable and strong, but will rev out the a real 7 or 8 grand, but won't make any power toill about 3k. Could get annoying for long road trips but doable if you insist

msoames21 · 11-03-2004, 01:15

You don't wanna go that fast in a Favorit!!! Trust me, 100 mph is not a pretty sight, the poor thing isn't designed to go above 60 let alone 130 bhp's

worth of speed.

I can see the smile factor when you wipe it off the face of a Saxo (VTS badged) wannabe at the lights, wouldn't that money be well spent on say a Felicia 1.6 or even a cheap Fabia we've got one for £4500 at the mo?

Matt

MeatballTurbo · 11-03-2004, 07:01

Yeah, but it isn't about just money.
Have a look at The Madfavorit site. I'm not sure they are campaigning that car now, as he planned to use the engine and box in a felicia shell, and go throttle bodies with an 8 injector system to try to push 150BHP out of it like the old Works cars did, hence why the site hasn't been updated for a while.

Most of the stuff there wasn't too pricey to do as it happens, it was just knowing what to use. 1.4 and 1.5 litre overbore kits are available for the Favorit/Felicia version of the engine in CZ, without going for the longstroke crank that the Fabia uses.

And I've heard that a company called something like "Autosport" in Birmingham will do a Cam regrind for about £30 for any profile you want and will advise if needed, and a crank lighten and balance for about £60, and the same for the flywheel. if you have any mechanical knowledge and a haynes and an engine stand and torque wrench you could do the donkey work and rebuild the engine yourself and just send the parts for machining. The 1.3 Felicia MPi head is the best flowing, the valves can go bigger using kits from CZ or piecing together using odd bits like the MadFav guys did, with the head machined to suit. And if you are friendly with your local welder, he could knock up a manifold to suit a pair of Dellorto 38 or 40's from an Alfa in the scrappies. Just needs some rolling road time. The exhaust can be seriosuly improved by whipping out the centre box and replacing it with some straight exhaust pipe stock welded in, and pre-92 cars are lighter because they have no gubbins attached, no cat, and a carb, so you just swap the manfold and head. And yes they are seriously quick.

A track day at Curborough organised by the Skoda Owners Club, with the Nottingham and district Motor club and TBC (the owners of Ermintrude) had the Notts cars (a Scooby, an Elise, an Audi TT, and an Octavia 4x4 Turbo, and an vRS) getting their arses kicked by the MadFav car, and that was with the suspension set to forest height for an event they had the next day, rathe rthan Tarmac height, or track lowered.

**TaviaRS** · 11-03-2004, 07:42

Excellent

MeatballTurbo · 13-04-2004, 13:19

Oh, bit late on my reply to this, but have a look at Skofast .

John Shelley is a Skoda god in the UK, and spends most of his time living and working in CZ now, as well as tracking down interesting skoda bits to ship to the UK, on his regular visits.

He has sme of the elusive twin carb manifolds for 136 engines at the correct angle for Rapids and for front engined 136 (favvys, felatios and furbys) cars.

Erik@aat · 13-04-2004, 13:46

Madfavorit's car is now being used to create a Felcia which should be out this year on BTRDA events in 1400 form.
There is mention of a 1400 16V engine being slotted in but not for a while, they're going to see how competitive they are with the current 1400 engine first.

MeatballTurbo · 13-04-2004, 13:59

That's excellent news. I heard plans for a Felicia, and the old favorit being sold with a tweaked engine, but no details on their website about what the new car was going to be like.

They seemed to disappear off the face of the planet

Erik@aat · 13-04-2004, 15:34

Dave isn't involved anymore, Chris is building the car and will use it when it's finished.

MeatballTurbo · 13-04-2004, 15:51

Ah OK.So Chris is getting back in the saddle again. ISTR that Dave said the last time Chris rallied was in an old RS2000 back in the day.

I think I spoke to Chris on the phone once, when I had the favorit, and wanted some advice on things like quickshift gearsticks and things.

fab16v · 13-04-2004, 20:22

You still got the little beastie then Jon??

11-03-2003, 18:45	#1
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,918 Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Tuning a Favorit What sort of power can you get from them, without adding forced induction. __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

14-03-2003, 10:58	#2
Erik@aat Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Burntwood, Staffs and Willenhall ~ not at the same time though! Posts: 495 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The one I should be navigating in this year reckons he'll have about 120 (not sure if he's for real or not....) Stick a 1400 16V in it and go the whole AAT hog ~> 215bhp or 232 from a 1600 16v..... __________________ www.advancedautosport.com

11-03-2004, 01:15	#4
msoames21 Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: East Anglia Posts: 162 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You don't wanna go that fast in a Favorit!!! Trust me, 100 mph is not a pretty sight, the poor thing isn't designed to go above 60 let alone 130 bhp's worth of speed. I can see the smile factor when you wipe it off the face of a Saxo (VTS badged) wannabe at the lights, wouldn't that money be well spent on say a Felicia 1.6 or even a cheap Fabia we've got one for £4500 at the mo? Matt __________________ Skoda Fabia 1.4 16v Comfort Hatch 17" Alloys Pipercross Induction Pioneer DEH7500MP Cruise Control Fold out Cup Holder!

11-03-2004, 07:42	#6
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,918 Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Excellent __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

13-04-2004, 13:46	#8
Erik@aat Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Burntwood, Staffs and Willenhall ~ not at the same time though! Posts: 495 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Madfavorit's car is now being used to create a Felcia which should be out this year on BTRDA events in 1400 form. There is mention of a 1400 16V engine being slotted in but not for a while, they're going to see how competitive they are with the current 1400 engine first. __________________ www.advancedautosport.com

08-03-2004, 09:19	#3
MeatballTurbo Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warrington Posts: 189 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	135bhp is possible, but it is down to good old dirty lightening, and balancing, and free flow exhausts, porting the head and fitting big valves, and huge twin Webers or Dellortos. The engine with be just as reliable and strong, but will rev out the a real 7 or 8 grand, but won't make any power toill about 3k. Could get annoying for long road trips but doable if you insist

11-03-2004, 07:01	#5
MeatballTurbo Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warrington Posts: 189 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Yeah, but it isn't about just money. Have a look at The Madfavorit site. I'm not sure they are campaigning that car now, as he planned to use the engine and box in a felicia shell, and go throttle bodies with an 8 injector system to try to push 150BHP out of it like the old Works cars did, hence why the site hasn't been updated for a while. Most of the stuff there wasn't too pricey to do as it happens, it was just knowing what to use. 1.4 and 1.5 litre overbore kits are available for the Favorit/Felicia version of the engine in CZ, without going for the longstroke crank that the Fabia uses. And I've heard that a company called something like "Autosport" in Birmingham will do a Cam regrind for about £30 for any profile you want and will advise if needed, and a crank lighten and balance for about £60, and the same for the flywheel. if you have any mechanical knowledge and a haynes and an engine stand and torque wrench you could do the donkey work and rebuild the engine yourself and just send the parts for machining. The 1.3 Felicia MPi head is the best flowing, the valves can go bigger using kits from CZ or piecing together using odd bits like the MadFav guys did, with the head machined to suit. And if you are friendly with your local welder, he could knock up a manifold to suit a pair of Dellorto 38 or 40's from an Alfa in the scrappies. Just needs some rolling road time. The exhaust can be seriosuly improved by whipping out the centre box and replacing it with some straight exhaust pipe stock welded in, and pre-92 cars are lighter because they have no gubbins attached, no cat, and a carb, so you just swap the manfold and head. And yes they are seriously quick. A track day at Curborough organised by the Skoda Owners Club, with the Nottingham and district Motor club and TBC (the owners of Ermintrude) had the Notts cars (a Scooby, an Elise, an Audi TT, and an Octavia 4x4 Turbo, and an vRS) getting their arses kicked by the MadFav car, and that was with the suspension set to forest height for an event they had the next day, rathe rthan Tarmac height, or track lowered.

13-04-2004, 13:19	#7
MeatballTurbo Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warrington Posts: 189 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Oh, bit late on my reply to this, but have a look at Skofast . John Shelley is a Skoda god in the UK, and spends most of his time living and working in CZ now, as well as tracking down interesting skoda bits to ship to the UK, on his regular visits. He has sme of the elusive twin carb manifolds for 136 engines at the correct angle for Rapids and for front engined 136 (favvys, felatios and furbys) cars.

13-04-2004, 13:59	#9
MeatballTurbo Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warrington Posts: 189 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	That's excellent news. I heard plans for a Felicia, and the old favorit being sold with a tweaked engine, but no details on their website about what the new car was going to be like. They seemed to disappear off the face of the planet

13-04-2004, 15:34	#10
Erik@aat Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Burntwood, Staffs and Willenhall ~ not at the same time though! Posts: 495 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dave isn't involved anymore, Chris is building the car and will use it when it's finished. __________________ www.advancedautosport.com

13-04-2004, 15:51	#11
MeatballTurbo Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warrington Posts: 189 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Ah OK.So Chris is getting back in the saddle again. ISTR that Dave said the last time Chris rallied was in an old RS2000 back in the day. I think I spoke to Chris on the phone once, when I had the favorit, and wanted some advice on things like quickshift gearsticks and things.

13-04-2004, 20:22	#12
fab16v Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Somewhere in Herts Posts: 3,105 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You still got the little beastie then Jon?? __________________ Graeme Ex Skoda owner twice over.

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