What induction kit to get?

mike · 05-03-2004, 15:32

What induction kit should I get for my VRs? Im told that the M.A.F. can cause serious problems? Should I get the induction kit before I get it remapped?
And who do I go to for my remap? Jabbasport? Forge Motorsport (revo) or AMD?

Which is best so I dont waste my hard earned pennies

Michael

Quinten · 05-03-2004, 16:27

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4987

**delcac** · 05-03-2004, 18:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike

What induction kit should I get for my VRs? Im told that the M.A.F. can cause serious problems? Should I get the induction kit before I get it remapped?
And who do I go to for my remap? Jabbasport? Forge Motorsport (revo) or AMD?

Which is best so I dont waste my hard earned pennies

Michael

The one you have on the car already.

Be a Modabstainer start a trend.

DaveU · 05-03-2004, 19:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by delcac

Be a Modabstainer start a trend.

Yeah cos we haven't got anyone who has managed to keep their car standard for more than 5 minutes have we?

mike · 05-03-2004, 21:00

Nice one lads, Id rather not keep it standard though! Since Im living in Ireland I have to plan a trip over and get the mods done at the same time, thus proving very spendy! Hence why I wanna know the best route before I go ahead and book anything. Does any one know anything bout REvo or ABD? Jabbasport look/sound the best but are they? This MAF sensor problem is worrying me big time, which kit is best and is it best to fit it before getting a remap done?
Come on lads give me a hand here

SkodiRS · 05-03-2004, 21:27

Best to get all other mods done before remap....

......from extensive testing done by the Wise Sages it was found that although a CAI gives better resposne low done it actually reduces response higher......if you want some more of that "pstsh" from the DV get a CAI fitted.......

....for more noise get an ABD LAN...something a bit quieter get a Dynatwist.

...Turbo inlet pipe... allows turbo to spin quicker and gives gains across the range... mainly torque.

....sports downpipe/cat......much better torque and again allows the turbo to spin up quicker.

MAF........problems have been attributed to oil from heavily oiled air filters......proabably due to over oiling after cleaning. If you want the benefits of a cotton gause filters but don't want to fit a CAI then get a replacement performance filter. Green Filters are lightly oiled.

Remap......what do you want from it? Value for money, undetectability, switchability, most power? This is a serious question as it will affect your choice.

Check out the Group Buy sections for prices/details or PM me.

HTH.
Adrian.

badger5 · 05-03-2004, 21:34

MAF failures do just occur. They are a factory fitted weak component.
Dealer is confronted with an after market induction kit and dead MAF will 99% blame the induction kit, regardless of its fault or not.

some induction kits are heavily coated in oil or other stickyness. This oil/stickyness is there on them to catch dust. If this coating comes out of the filter the next thing down stream is the MAF sensor. Over time this will degrade and malfunction.

Fact is, heaps of std cars are having MAF's fail. No excuse to wriggle out of the warranty claims on them. Some foam filter induction kits may allow their coating to be drawn out.
There are some 'safe' induction kits and filters out there also, and the scare mongering by dealers is on the whole just that. Scare Mongering.

regards
bill

**delcac** · 05-03-2004, 21:57

V.A.G. do a nice paper one, no oil at all, cost a couple of quid, no damage to MAF and best of all no warranty issues.

Huck · 05-03-2004, 22:47

i've got the neuspeed and frankly think i was kidding myself that i could feel better 'pickup'. probably had a lot more to do with the full miltek and sports cat.

nice noise but that's about it IMO. will soon be going back to standard. can't be bothered with re-oiling and *potential* MAF issues.

MonkeyHanger · 05-03-2004, 22:49

One more mod off the list...Briskoda saves me yet more cash

mike · 06-03-2004, 08:49

So which induction kit? I had a K & N on my old car it made a sweet noise, ok so no real noticabler power but it sounded the biz. Anyone going to help with the ABD or Revo question?

DaveU · 06-03-2004, 08:59

Hi Mike - did you read the info on the link that Quintin posted?

It is a really good into and description to vRS modding and answers your questions!

SkodiRS · 06-03-2004, 09:47

It's also written from an unbiased (well sort of

) point of view.

PM me with specific questions you want answered and I'll try and help.

**delcac** · 08-03-2004, 20:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonkeyHanger

One more mod off the list...Briskoda saves me yet more cash

If you must, get an unoiled drop in panel filter for the standard airbox.

***ncarring*** · 09-03-2004, 17:22

Just put the Green filter in mine at the weekend and can definitely feel a slight improvement - feels free-er breathing. However did drop in some Samco hoses at the same time so may be either or both together.

MonkeyHanger · 09-03-2004, 18:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by delcac

If you must, get an unoiled drop in panel filter for the standard airbox.

Not interested in power "gains" Des..

More interested in making the car stop, and go around corners better

05-03-2004, 15:32	#1
mike Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What induction kit to get? What induction kit should I get for my VRs? Im told that the M.A.F. can cause serious problems? Should I get the induction kit before I get it remapped? And who do I go to for my remap? Jabbasport? Forge Motorsport (revo) or AMD? Which is best so I dont waste my hard earned pennies Michael

05-03-2004, 16:27	#2
Quinten playing dadsie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: fast lane Posts: 10,013 Thanks: 16 Thanked 41 Times in 38 Posts	http://www.briskoda.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4987 __________________ Awooga!!!

05-03-2004, 21:27	#6
SkodiRS BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: darkest Hampshire Posts: 8,650 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts	Best to get all other mods done before remap.... ......from extensive testing done by the Wise Sages it was found that although a CAI gives better resposne low done it actually reduces response higher......if you want some more of that "pstsh" from the DV get a CAI fitted....... ....for more noise get an ABD LAN...something a bit quieter get a Dynatwist. ...Turbo inlet pipe... allows turbo to spin quicker and gives gains across the range... mainly torque. ....sports downpipe/cat......much better torque and again allows the turbo to spin up quicker. MAF........problems have been attributed to oil from heavily oiled air filters......proabably due to over oiling after cleaning. If you want the benefits of a cotton gause filters but don't want to fit a CAI then get a replacement performance filter. Green Filters are lightly oiled. Remap......what do you want from it? Value for money, undetectability, switchability, most power? This is a serious question as it will affect your choice. Check out the Group Buy sections for prices/details or PM me. HTH. Adrian. __________________ Adrian.

05-03-2004, 21:34	#7
badger5 Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: nr Glos,UK Posts: 499 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	MAF failures do just occur. They are a factory fitted weak component. Dealer is confronted with an after market induction kit and dead MAF will 99% blame the induction kit, regardless of its fault or not. some induction kits are heavily coated in oil or other stickyness. This oil/stickyness is there on them to catch dust. If this coating comes out of the filter the next thing down stream is the MAF sensor. Over time this will degrade and malfunction. Fact is, heaps of std cars are having MAF's fail. No excuse to wriggle out of the warranty claims on them. Some foam filter induction kits may allow their coating to be drawn out. There are some 'safe' induction kits and filters out there also, and the scare mongering by dealers is on the whole just that. Scare Mongering. regards bill __________________ 517bhp / 378lbft SEAT Ibiza Badger Mobile

05-03-2004, 21:57	#8
delcac Still a **** Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Chatham, Kent Posts: 7,118 Thanks: 12 Thanked 62 Times in 48 Posts	V.A.G. do a nice paper one, no oil at all, cost a couple of quid, no damage to MAF and best of all no warranty issues. __________________ The Red Devil

05-03-2004, 21:00	#5
mike Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Nice one lads, Id rather not keep it standard though! Since Im living in Ireland I have to plan a trip over and get the mods done at the same time, thus proving very spendy! Hence why I wanna know the best route before I go ahead and book anything. Does any one know anything bout REvo or ABD? Jabbasport look/sound the best but are they? This MAF sensor problem is worrying me big time, which kit is best and is it best to fit it before getting a remap done? Come on lads give me a hand here

05-03-2004, 22:47	#9
Huck Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NW England Posts: 2,277 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i've got the neuspeed and frankly think i was kidding myself that i could feel better 'pickup'. probably had a lot more to do with the full miltek and sports cat. nice noise but that's about it IMO. will soon be going back to standard. can't be bothered with re-oiling and potential MAF issues. __________________ Huck B.

05-03-2004, 22:49	#10
MonkeyHanger BANNED Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Anywhere but here Posts: 8,781 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	One more mod off the list...Briskoda saves me yet more cash

06-03-2004, 08:49	#11
mike Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	So which induction kit? I had a K & N on my old car it made a sweet noise, ok so no real noticabler power but it sounded the biz. Anyone going to help with the ABD or Revo question?

06-03-2004, 08:59	#12
DaveU VIP Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South, then East a little bit. Posts: 2,455 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Mike - did you read the info on the link that Quintin posted? It is a really good into and description to vRS modding and answers your questions! __________________ Dave Dave's new runaround ^ The Beast: 2001-2007 (now re-homed). 5 1/2 years of frightening the living daylights out of other road users and ashaming various high end cars.

06-03-2004, 09:47	#13
SkodiRS BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: darkest Hampshire Posts: 8,650 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts	It's also written from an unbiased (well sort of) point of view. PM me with specific questions you want answered and I'll try and help. __________________ Adrian.

09-03-2004, 17:22	#15
*ncarring* Don't talk, drive! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The B roads of Britain Posts: 12,867 Thanks: 15 Thanked 86 Times in 74 Posts	Just put the Green filter in mine at the weekend and can definitely feel a slight improvement - feels free-er breathing. However did drop in some Samco hoses at the same time so may be either or both together. __________________ Nick

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