Wonder wheels instructions

day tripper · 05-03-2004, 12:46

Ive just bought wonder wheels cleaner and there are no instructions provided. All i have is the fluid, a dispenser lid and a brush. Someone please tell me how im supposed to use this?

Am i supposed to wash the wheels down first with a sponge and water or do i brush it straight on?

What is the dispenser lid for=mixing what?

Nigel26 · 05-03-2004, 12:53

right, the lid is for holding the liquid in while you use the brush to apply it to the wheels... i found best results by blasting the wheels with a hose / pressure washer to get the real heavy sh*t off first, then covering them in the solution (which you use neat). Leave it to soak in for a few minutes (usually about the time it take you to do the next wheel). then with hot soapy water sponge the wheel down and make sure ALL the solution is washed away.

I wouldnt advise using Wonder Wheels on rims that have flaked or bubbled paint, i've seen the solution take the paint off !

Its a bit late for you now but a less harsh cleaner that works really well is Turtle Wax extreme (i think) cleaner, its in a green bottle.

helpmedisappear · 05-03-2004, 12:54

I give my wheels a light sponge down first and then poor a little of the wonder wheels liquid in the black top thing, soak the brush in it and just set to work getting it into all those corners. It will start to foam up and you know its working! Just keep working the stuff in and wash off with a hose pipe. I find it much easier to use than a soapy sponge purely because that brush gets in all the corners

Dont get it on anything else other than your wheels though, its staind my stainless steel sink and i only dropped a little drop on it by mistake

fen_l&k · 05-03-2004, 13:10

Frankly, anything that leaves a stain on a stainless steel sink wouldn't be going anywhere near my alloys. WonderWheels is acid based, so it you are going to use it, don't leave it on for long. And, if you have any nicks or scratches be very, very, careful!!

mobtob · 05-03-2004, 13:22

I would bin it, then buy some MC2 instead

WW is very harsh

Fabpreza · 05-03-2004, 13:26

I'm pretty sure that Wonder wheels is Alkali-based. I've personally used it for 10 years and never had problems with damage/flaking.

My routine is

1) Clean the wheels with (normally) Halfords car wash stuff and a sponge then rinse off. It helps as the solution can start working on the ingrained dust rather than have to work its way through the loose dirt on top.

2) Brush/dab the WW on a wheel at a time and go round again straight away adding a bit more WW and rubbing in with the brush where needed.

3) Leave it for 20 mins. Then go back and see if there's any bits that it hasn't managed to break down.

4) More soap and water and rinse.

Normally takes me 45 mins tops to do a really thorough job.

Rob

Huck · 05-03-2004, 13:34

only had problems with it when i used it on an already damaged section of the wheel with lacquer coming off - definitely made it worse - was years ago when i was a kid(well, younger

) and the car wasn't mine(sorry dad). other than that, get great results with it.

doesn't take too long at all to do if the wheels aren't caked in brake dust. i do one wheel at a time using the brush then cleaning with soapy water followed by hosing off.

et voila, clean wheels!!

Leeboy · 05-03-2004, 14:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabpreza

I'm pretty sure that Wonder wheels is Alkali-based. I've personally used it for 10 years and never had problems with damage/flaking.

No definitely acid, if you drip it on to your concrete driveway (assuming you have one) you will see it effervesce as the acid converts calcium carbonate to calcium salts and carbon dioxide. But never mind the chemistry lesson, I've never had a problem with lacquered alloys, particularly to get the real stubbon stuff of the inside of the rim which usually doesn't have a nice smooth finish to make washing easy.

Lee

Nigel26 · 05-03-2004, 14:26

try getting it in a cut on your finger !!!

i wouldnt leave it for as long as 20mins though, it is the harshest cleaner i've used on wheels but it is good stuff.

like i said though there is less harsh cleaners available for less money.

Steve vRS · 05-03-2004, 15:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeboy

No definitely acid, if you drip it on to your concrete driveway (assuming you have one) you will see it effervesce as the acid converts calcium carbonate to calcium salts and carbon dioxide. But never mind the chemistry lesson, I've never had a problem with lacquered alloys, particularly to get the real stubbon stuff of the inside of the rim which usually doesn't have a nice smooth finish to make washing easy.

Lee

It contains Phosphoric acid and Hydrochloric acid. Both of these media at the right concentrations will eat 316L stainless steel. We use both the products as raw materials and store them in polypropylene lined pipes and tanks.

I use wonder wheels occasionally but am extremely carefull not to get any on my nice green calipers!

Steve

day tripper · 05-03-2004, 22:57

Spent the afternoon cleaning the alloys and definately recommend wonder wheels, did an awesome job, wheels look like new! and i did get some into a cut on my finger and stings!

***Neo_VR*** · 06-03-2004, 01:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeboy

No definitely acid, if you drip it on to your concrete driveway (assuming you have one) you will see it effervesce as the acid converts calcium carbonate to calcium salts and carbon dioxide. But never mind the chemistry lesson, I've never had a problem with lacquered alloys, particularly to get the real stubbon stuff of the inside of the rim which usually doesn't have a nice smooth finish to make washing easy.

Lee

Im with mobtob... MC2

day tripper · 06-03-2004, 01:45

Would wonder wheels be harmful for white alloys?

Fabpreza · 06-03-2004, 09:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeboy

No definitely acid, if you drip it on to your concrete driveway (assuming you have one) you will see it effervesce as the acid converts calcium carbonate to calcium salts and carbon dioxide. Lee

I stand corrected !
It was actually a Jag dealer that started me on Wonder Wheels 10 years ago that said they used it because it was Alkali-based. Perhaps they've had to change the formula as the competition has got (literally) stronger ?

Rob

flyingscot · 06-03-2004, 14:57

I've used wonderwheels, but actually I prefer Commas wheel cleaner. It is definatly better. It lasts a lot longer and the spray is better.

***DGW*** · 06-03-2004, 17:13

WONDER WHEELS ® This product is not suitable for use on un-lacquered forged anodised wheels or surfaces, chrome plated wheels or surfaces and any un-lacquered and polished finished alloy wheels or surfaces. On vehicles with chrome / chrome appearance centre caps and wheel nuts avoid contact with product. The above materials are normally found on custom cars, classic cars and 4 X 4 vehicles. If unsure of wheel type please contact our Customer Services on 0208 426 1500.

INSTRUCTIONS FOR USE

1. Pour a small amount of WONDER WHEELS into the dispensing cap. Apply liquid to cold wheel with applicator brush.
2. Agitate WONDER WHEELS to a foam on the wheel surface and work into affected areas. For bad cases keep agitating with more WONDER WHEELS, paying attention to intricate areas and heavy deposits.
3. Hose or sponge off with soapy water and repeat process on other wheels. Some wheels may need a repeat application.
4. Then turn the wheels half a revolution to avoid missing any soiled areas. On complicated wheels, use the brush to rinse. Avoid use in direct sunlight. In cold weather warm bottle in hot water for 10 minutes prior to use.

Wash hands after use * Avoid contact with skin * Keep out of reach of children
If eyes are affected, wash out at once * If swallowed do not induce vomiting
Drink plenty of water or milk * Seek medical aid and show doctor this container

Contains hydrochloric acid 1789 * Phosphoric acid 1805

Total acid content approx 5%. Not classified as hazardous under C.H.I.P.S. 2 Regulations.

Alex · 06-03-2004, 17:24

I think that would be the definitive answer Denis

Witchfinder · 06-03-2004, 17:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingscot

I've used wonderwheels, but actually I prefer Commas wheel cleaner. It is definatly better. It lasts a lot longer and the spray is better.

Seconded. I find Wonder Wheels is fiddly to apply.

**mannyo** · 06-03-2004, 17:46

Have used wonder wheels in the past and found it to be ok. I used it for abour 18 months with no ill effects and found it good at removing stubbon stains and ground in brake dust. Some complained about it discolouring the brake caliper but I never had that problem. I now use a meguires product that comes in a spray container. This I find to be just as good, just easier to apply.

Bigice · 08-03-2004, 11:13

ived used ww on my wheels for 6mths know and on the calipers with no ill effects, the way i do it is wet the wheel first then mix ww with some hot water, bout 50/50 in the black lid, then use a stiffer brush than the one provided and work it into the caliper and the wheel till it foams up, then wash off straight away, seems to give v.good results

Pete

05-03-2004, 12:46	#1
day tripper Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,717 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Wonder wheels instructions Ive just bought wonder wheels cleaner and there are no instructions provided. All i have is the fluid, a dispenser lid and a brush. Someone please tell me how im supposed to use this? Am i supposed to wash the wheels down first with a sponge and water or do i brush it straight on? What is the dispenser lid for=mixing what?

05-03-2004, 12:53	#2
Nigel26 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Walsall, West Midlands Posts: 2,298 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	right, the lid is for holding the liquid in while you use the brush to apply it to the wheels... i found best results by blasting the wheels with a hose / pressure washer to get the real heavy sh*t off first, then covering them in the solution (which you use neat). Leave it to soak in for a few minutes (usually about the time it take you to do the next wheel). then with hot soapy water sponge the wheel down and make sure ALL the solution is washed away. I wouldnt advise using Wonder Wheels on rims that have flaked or bubbled paint, i've seen the solution take the paint off ! Its a bit late for you now but a less harsh cleaner that works really well is Turtle Wax extreme (i think) cleaner, its in a green bottle. __________________ Sea Grey Mondeo Titanium X

05-03-2004, 12:54	#3
helpmedisappear Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bolton Posts: 1,762 Thanks: 36 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	I give my wheels a light sponge down first and then poor a little of the wonder wheels liquid in the black top thing, soak the brush in it and just set to work getting it into all those corners. It will start to foam up and you know its working! Just keep working the stuff in and wash off with a hose pipe. I find it much easier to use than a soapy sponge purely because that brush gets in all the corners Dont get it on anything else other than your wheels though, its staind my stainless steel sink and i only dropped a little drop on it by mistake __________________ Martin Black Magic Fabia vRSv

05-03-2004, 13:10	#4
fen_l&k Briskodian Join Date: May 2003 Location: Deepest Fenland Posts: 2,559 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Frankly, anything that leaves a stain on a stainless steel sink wouldn't be going anywhere near my alloys. WonderWheels is acid based, so it you are going to use it, don't leave it on for long. And, if you have any nicks or scratches be very, very, careful!! __________________ Howard Octavia TDi L&K in Cayenne Member of the exclusive "Social Misfits" and "Objectionable To55ers" community

05-03-2004, 13:22	#5
mobtob Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rushden, Northants Posts: 449 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I would bin it, then buy some MC2 instead WW is very harsh __________________ Silver Audi A3 2.0 TDI Sport Red VX220

05-03-2004, 13:26	#6
Fabpreza Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SE Posts: 1,515 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm pretty sure that Wonder wheels is Alkali-based. I've personally used it for 10 years and never had problems with damage/flaking. My routine is 1) Clean the wheels with (normally) Halfords car wash stuff and a sponge then rinse off. It helps as the solution can start working on the ingrained dust rather than have to work its way through the loose dirt on top. 2) Brush/dab the WW on a wheel at a time and go round again straight away adding a bit more WW and rubbing in with the brush where needed. 3) Leave it for 20 mins. Then go back and see if there's any bits that it hasn't managed to break down. 4) More soap and water and rinse. Normally takes me 45 mins tops to do a really thorough job. Rob

05-03-2004, 13:34	#7
Huck Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NW England Posts: 2,277 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	only had problems with it when i used it on an already damaged section of the wheel with lacquer coming off - definitely made it worse - was years ago when i was a kid(well, younger ) and the car wasn't mine(sorry dad). other than that, get great results with it. doesn't take too long at all to do if the wheels aren't caked in brake dust. i do one wheel at a time using the brush then cleaning with soapy water followed by hosing off. et voila, clean wheels!! __________________ Huck B.

05-03-2004, 14:26	#9
Nigel26 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Walsall, West Midlands Posts: 2,298 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	try getting it in a cut on your finger !!! i wouldnt leave it for as long as 20mins though, it is the harshest cleaner i've used on wheels but it is good stuff. like i said though there is less harsh cleaners available for less money. __________________ Sea Grey Mondeo Titanium X

05-03-2004, 22:57	#11
day tripper Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,717 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Spent the afternoon cleaning the alloys and definately recommend wonder wheels, did an awesome job, wheels look like new! and i did get some into a cut on my finger and stings!

06-03-2004, 01:45	#13
day tripper Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,717 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Would wonder wheels be harmful for white alloys?

06-03-2004, 14:57	#15
flyingscot Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Jammed up on her majesties highways Posts: 2,249 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I've used wonderwheels, but actually I prefer Commas wheel cleaner. It is definatly better. It lasts a lot longer and the spray is better. __________________ Colin To come second is to be the first of the losers!

06-03-2004, 17:13	#16
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,128 Thanks: 49 Thanked 170 Times in 127 Posts	WONDER WHEELS ® This product is not suitable for use on un-lacquered forged anodised wheels or surfaces, chrome plated wheels or surfaces and any un-lacquered and polished finished alloy wheels or surfaces. On vehicles with chrome / chrome appearance centre caps and wheel nuts avoid contact with product. The above materials are normally found on custom cars, classic cars and 4 X 4 vehicles. If unsure of wheel type please contact our Customer Services on 0208 426 1500. INSTRUCTIONS FOR USE 1. Pour a small amount of WONDER WHEELS into the dispensing cap. Apply liquid to cold wheel with applicator brush. 2. Agitate WONDER WHEELS to a foam on the wheel surface and work into affected areas. For bad cases keep agitating with more WONDER WHEELS, paying attention to intricate areas and heavy deposits. 3. Hose or sponge off with soapy water and repeat process on other wheels. Some wheels may need a repeat application. 4. Then turn the wheels half a revolution to avoid missing any soiled areas. On complicated wheels, use the brush to rinse. Avoid use in direct sunlight. In cold weather warm bottle in hot water for 10 minutes prior to use. Wash hands after use * Avoid contact with skin * Keep out of reach of children If eyes are affected, wash out at once * If swallowed do not induce vomiting Drink plenty of water or milk * Seek medical aid and show doctor this container Contains hydrochloric acid 1789 Phosphoric acid 1805* Total acid content approx 5%. Not classified as hazardous under C.H.I.P.S. 2 Regulations. __________________ Denis 2002 Octavia 1.8T 4X4 turbo Estate - rebreathed on by Jabba ... 31.93mpg 2007 Fabia vRS - CC, ESP and full leather trim by Seat Surgeons ...48.09 mpg...

06-03-2004, 17:24	#17
Alex Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Peak District Posts: 2,735 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	I think that would be the definitive answer Denis

06-03-2004, 17:46	#19
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 11,081 Thanks: 34 Thanked 303 Times in 283 Posts	Have used wonder wheels in the past and found it to be ok. I used it for abour 18 months with no ill effects and found it good at removing stubbon stains and ground in brake dust. Some complained about it discolouring the brake caliper but I never had that problem. I now use a meguires product that comes in a spray container. This I find to be just as good, just easier to apply. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

08-03-2004, 11:13	#20
Bigice Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Leicester Posts: 82 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ived used ww on my wheels for 6mths know and on the calipers with no ill effects, the way i do it is wet the wheel first then mix ww with some hot water, bout 50/50 in the black lid, then use a stiffer brush than the one provided and work it into the caliper and the wheel till it foams up, then wash off straight away, seems to give v.good results Pete

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