MotoGP Shanghai - The Race

[Jon TDI]

Well Rossi needed to win this one & guess what.....................he did!!

Pedrosa did his best to stay with Rossi, but the last 5 laps Rossi put in his best times.
Stoner had a lonesome ride in third position but I'm surprised he couldn't keep up with Rossi & Pedrosa earlier on in the race.
A lot of people out braking themselves at the hairpin.

Well done to Lorenso finishing 4th with 2 knackered ankles - brave man!

JT down in 12th, I think.

[anonymouse]

An exemplary race by the Doctor (and a lesson or two to the others in how to control) - shame it was a bit boring.

[farky77]

Originally Posted by anonymouse

An exemplary race by the Doctor (and a lesson or two to the others in how to control) - shame it was a bit boring.

My thoughts exactly
In the last 5 laps you could actually see him try that extra bit harder!!
I love watching him when he's like that!!
Jeremy Burgess mentioned after the race that they've found a way to make the Bridgestone work with the Yamaha. Lets hope he can keep this up!!
With the way Pedrosa is riding at the minute and when Lorenzo (AMAZING ride from him) is fit again, it should be a pretty amazing season!!

Ian

[anonymouse]

Originally Posted by farky77

With the way Pedrosa is riding at the minute and when Lorenzo (AMAZING ride from him) is fit again, it should be a pretty amazing season!!

Yup, I hope there's lots of ding-dong battles like the good old days with Gibernau etc

[Lance]

As much as it hurts, I have to agree that it was a class ride from the shirtlifter, especially when he upped the pace a few laps from the finish

Must admit though that I was a little surprised that he remembered where the top step of the podium is

Oh and big respect to Lorenzo as well.


Lance (sulking)

[anonymouse]

Originally Posted by Lance

the shirtlifter

Where did this 'interesting' piece of information come into the equation ?



and

As much as it hurts

I should get that boil lanced

[Lance]

Originally Posted by anonymouse

Where did this 'interesting' piece of information come into the equation ?

When I wrote it of course........bit obvious really

[farky77]

Originally Posted by Lance

Must admit though that I was a little surprised that he remembered where the top step of the podium is



Lance (sulking)

C'mon Lance. You dont forget where the Top step of the Podium is if you have been to said 'Top Step' 63 times in Moto GP/500cc
14 times in 250cc AND 12 times in 125cc!!
The guy could walk to every Top Step at every round with his eyes shut, blind folded and his eye lids super glued together!!
Oh, and remember, he HAS been World Champion 7 times!!!

Ian

[Lance]

Originally Posted by farky77

C'mon Lance. You dont forget where the Top step of the Podium is if you have been to said 'Top Step' 63 times in Moto GP/500cc
14 times in 250cc AND 12 times in 125cc!!
The guy could walk to every Top Step at every round with his eyes shut, blind folded and his eye lids super glued together!!
Oh, and remember, he HAS been World Champion 7 times!!!

Ian

Fair comment Ian, however during the previous GP (may have been the one before that) he did forget when the last lap was, so I just presumed he was losing the plot.

Lance (still sulking but no longer stamping his feet)

[FOZ1]

Well looks like they have sorted some of the problems out ay Yamaha, the commentators kept saying that Pedrosa had a bit in reserve & was biding his time, hmm think they got that a bit wrong 4 second gap in 5 laps at the end of the race is vintage Doctor . Was very surprised at Stoners lack of pace although post race interview he blamed poor advice on tyres Gritty ride by Lorenzo. Colin Edwards had a much better race this time, seemed to have the pace to keep up but made a couple of mistakes. They all seemed to have trouble with their breaking points at first due to having a tail wind down the straight.

Here's to more close races for the rest of the season

Cheer up Lance it's only one race.

[Kaiserb_uk]

Originally Posted by FOZ1

the commentators kept saying that Pedrosa had a bit in reserve & was biding his time, hmm think they got that a bit wrong 4 second gap in 5 laps at the end of the race is vintage Doctor .

Which channel were you watching it on? They pointed out on Eurosport that very likely Pedrosa's bike started going backwards as it would have been short on fuel (the sprung valve Honda is more thirsty than the air-valve Yamaha, and he'd been going flat-out to stay with Rossi).

Nevertheless it was cracking watching Rossi turn the screw towards the end - these 800's aren't exactly slow are they! I'm no biker, but is it a case of what little they lack in straight line speed (compared to the 990's) they make up in corner speed?

[farky77]

Originally Posted by Lance

Lance (still sulking but no longer stamping his feet)

[farky77]

Originally Posted by FOZ1

Colin Edwards had a much better race this time, seemed to have the pace to keep up but made a couple of mistakes.

I've always rated Colin but its always seemed in Moto GP that he cant keep the pace when the tyres go off??
He's ALWAYS up there in Qualifying and start of the race on sticky tyres but lacks towards the end.

Ian

[farky77]

Originally Posted by Kaiserb_uk

Which channel were you watching it on? They pointed out on Eurosport that very likely Pedrosa's bike started going backwards as it would have been short on fuel (the sprung valve Honda is more thirsty than the air-valve Yamaha, and he'd been going flat-out to stay with Rossi).

Nevertheless it was cracking watching Rossi turn the screw towards the end - these 800's aren't exactly slow are they! I'm no biker, but is it a case of what little they lack in straight line speed (compared to the 990's) they make up in corner speed?

Yes, the electronics would have 'tamed' the engine a bit, making it slightly less aggressive in the power delivery department to save fuel.
I've heard the Ducati's electronics measure fuel consumption over the first 5 laps and can calculate EXACTLY what 'map' to run the rest of the race on, right down to within a 1/4 of a litre so that there is no last laps stutters.
The 800's are alot quicker regarding corner speed but only slightly less regarding speed down the straights

Ian

[FOZ1]

Originally Posted by Kaiserb_uk

Which channel were you watching it on? They pointed out on Eurosport that very likely Pedrosa's bike started going backwards as it would have been short on fuel (the sprung valve Honda is more thirsty than the air-valve Yamaha, and he'd been going flat-out to stay with Rossi).

Nevertheless it was cracking watching Rossi turn the screw towards the end - these 800's aren't exactly slow are they! I'm no biker, but is it a case of what little they lack in straight line speed (compared to the 990's) they make up in corner speed?

Watched it on BBC1 as you don't get the adverts, I do watch it on Eurosport as I think the commentators know their racing better than Mr Cox & Co, but the adverts get annoying after a while.

As for the speed, wow, setting all time lap records with 200cc(ish) less

[GAFF]

Originally Posted by Kaiserb_uk

Which channel were you watching it on? They pointed out on Eurosport that very likely Pedrosa's bike started going backwards as it would have been short on fuel (the sprung valve Honda is more thirsty than the air-valve Yamaha, and he'd been going flat-out to stay with Rossi).

Nevertheless it was cracking watching Rossi turn the screw towards the end - these 800's aren't exactly slow are they! I'm no biker, but is it a case of what little they lack in straight line speed (compared to the 990's) they make up in corner speed?

Just after watching it, I believe from Eurosport it was also to save the engine as it was over revving, may have used the wrong gearing for high speeds due to the high tail wind which was catching the guys out, they were 12mph up on the top speeds from the day before because of it.

Btw for those who didn't see Lorenzos acrobatics, YouTube - caida de Jorge Lorenzo en el GP CHINA 2008

[KenONeill]

Originally Posted by Kaiserb_uk

Which channel were you watching it on? They pointed out on Eurosport that very likely Pedrosa's bike started going backwards as it would have been short on fuel (the sprung valve Honda is more thirsty than the air-valve Yamaha, and he'd been going flat-out to stay with Rossi).

So either he couldn't keep up at the end, or he wasn't really capable of going quite as fast from the off then they mean? Seems to me it's 6 and half a dozen then.

Ok, it doesn't apply here, but the Beeb usually have one thing that Eurosprout don't ever, Suzi!

[anonymouse]

Originally Posted by KenONeill

Ok, it doesn't apply here, but the Beeb usually have one thing that Eurosprout don't ever, Suzi!

The BBC commentators are right Cox, erm, well one of em is.
We used to get Eurosport and really enjoyed the commentaries - Parrish and Cox too dry / lacking. But am glad we no longer put up with adverts.

I think a lot of teams will now be extremely worried that, as Burgess said, we've now got the Bridgestones to work with the Yamaha.

[KenONeill]

Oh yeah, I actually think the combination of Charlie (ex-racer, so understands the mindset) and Stavros works pretty well.

[GAFF]

Originally Posted by anonymouse

I think a lot of teams

And Lance

Originally Posted by anonymouse

will now be extremely worried that, as Burgess said, we've now got the Bridgestones to work with the Yamaha.