Post Rolling Road Day Discussion and Pictures/Video

oilburninnut · 20-10-2007, 18:37

i will be there(work permiting)tho tom said his standard one made 156 so its not a first

Wardy · 20-10-2007, 18:39

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Originally Posted by Tom_vRS

FWIW I got 156bhp in my standard Fabia at an independant rolling road too!

Forgot about that - which RR was that again Tom?

Steve

oilburninnut · 20-10-2007, 18:55

i think the question has to be,is 180-185bhp a realistic output from a remap alone?gtjunior's didn't make this and that had the uprated clutch and intercooler,and none of the other mapped fabia's made it either so i wonder if it is possible.

Glider · 20-10-2007, 19:09

When I had a Fabia at first, it ran standard at 136bhp then 180bhp with Jim at Stars map on it, same RR. At other RRs it was between 170 and 190, then I added a FMIC etc no increase in power at all, just the ability to run for longer at that power.
Then I got a lot more power with a lot less reliability. IMHO a remap will be worth it, just make sure it's not generic or your looking around the 170bhp mark which wouldn't be worth the effort as Awsomes are some of the best rollers in the country, transmission losses seem more realistic there. eg my 4wd shows transmission losses of 70bhp, which the car doesn't make till 2k revs but it still moves ????

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Originally Posted by oilburninnut

i think the question has to be,is 180-185bhp a realistic output from a remap alone?gtjunior's didn't make this and that had the uprated clutch and intercooler,and none of the other mapped fabia's made it either so i wonder if it is possible.

oilburninnut · 20-10-2007, 19:23

not bothering with a remap,as the standard turbo isn't going to be there very long

skudmissile · 20-10-2007, 19:25

Id like to thank Steve also for organising this, cheers mate

I just got back, avec le rear anti roll bar

Heres my run, look at the tourqe spike

Had a good day, was really nice to put some more faces to usernames

cheers

john

gav_vrs · 20-10-2007, 19:35

was a good day out even in i didnt run the "propper car" and had to settle for a remapped fabia still old smokey joe pulled thru.....
i think i need to challenge skud's title as the smokeiest fabia of the day tho
will post the figures when i get em back off my brother

skudmissile · 20-10-2007, 19:40

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Originally Posted by gav_vrs

was a good day out even in i didnt run the "propper car" and had to settle for a remapped fabia still old smokey joe pulled thru.....
i think i need to challenge skud's title as the smokeiest fabia of the day tho
will post the figures when i get em back off my brother

Yer would have been good to do a sidebyside "pull" with someone behind filming, but i had places to be and roll bars to collect.

Maybe a feature to be added for next year

Who has the smokiest fabia?

gav_vrs · 20-10-2007, 19:42

lol well i have the camera and screen mount

ChrisRs · 20-10-2007, 19:44

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Originally Posted by Snoopie

What did you get

Here you go:

Snoopie · 20-10-2007, 19:51

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Originally Posted by ChrisRs

Here you go:

Very very nice pull on that. Beautiful

Infact, probably the best I've seen on a diesel.

sharkrider · 20-10-2007, 19:52

how come it only runs to 3k?

you should get it done again when you get 10k under its belt

Harry_vRS · 20-10-2007, 20:06

There was an Octavia vRS on Chipped UK's rollers last week and here's the graph.

It's not a very smooth curve due to the car trying to come off the rollers.

ric04vrs · 20-10-2007, 20:32

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Originally Posted by oilburninnut

my interweb skills are limetted to say the least

so is your spelling also

my power doesn't seem too good , but the torque has gone up by about 25lbft , its certainly quicker than it was , but i was disappointed by the result , but not as much as Sharky was

ChrisRs · 20-10-2007, 20:36

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Originally Posted by sharkrider

how come it only runs to 3k?

you should get it done again when you get 10k under its belt

Honda figures: Max torque is 251 ft/lbs @ 2000 rpm on the 2.2 CTDi

sharkrider · 20-10-2007, 20:45

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Originally Posted by ChrisRs

Honda figures: Max torque is 251 ft/lbs @ 2000 rpm on the 2.2 CTDi

thats a good effort then

gav_vrs · 20-10-2007, 21:36

got a pic of my brothers 200 quid remap

ric04vrs · 20-10-2007, 21:56

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Originally Posted by gav_vrs

got a pic of my brothers 200 quid remap

whats really odd about that is , I have a similar torque output 266-268 , but 20 brake less

skudmissile · 20-10-2007, 22:00

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Originally Posted by ric04vrs

whats really odd about that is , I have a similar torque output 266-268 , but 20 brake less

Well BHP is a function of torque and RPM so after the Max torque value your graph will have dropped off. So at the RPM where your Max BHp is occuring will have less torque than a mapped one so hence less peak bhp. If that makes sense.

I recon it will be summat to do with the dragon box not holding the boost right up the rev range.

ric04vrs · 20-10-2007, 22:13

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Originally Posted by skudmissile

Well BHP is a function of torque and RPM so after the Max torque value your graph will have dropped off. So at the RPM where your Max BHp is occuring will have less torque than a mapped one so hence less peak bhp. If that makes sense.

I recon it will be summat to do with the dragon box not holding the boost right up the rev range.

the Dragon box doesn't adjust the boost , the peak torque is in exactly the same place 2-2.5k rpm , the max power peaks slightly earlier though

i have about 180lbft at max power which is at a lower rpm (3.8k)

whereas that graph shows 200lbft at max power (4k)

skudmissile · 20-10-2007, 22:32

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Originally Posted by ric04vrs

the Dragon box doesn't adjust the boost , the peak torque is in exactly the same place 2-2.5k rpm , the max power peaks slightly earlier though

i have about 180lbft at max power which is at a lower rpm (3.8k)

whereas that graph shows 200lbft at max power (4k)

i dunno then, sounds abit random

Snoopie · 20-10-2007, 22:47

Presumably it might be less in a figure, but probably holds better.

sharkrider · 21-10-2007, 00:34

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Originally Posted by ric04vrs

whats really odd about that is , I have a similar torque output 266-268 , but 20 brake less

my torque was 280, but my power was 157..........

just depends on the map/engine ect.........

faboka vrs · 21-10-2007, 00:58

Cheers Steve.

Well Mine made 125 at the wheels with 240ftlbs.

oilburninnut. Could it be possible the actuator has been played with? Your plot is similar to 3fs jnr where at 3.5K the torque seems to hold for longer?

ric04vrs · 21-10-2007, 09:42

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Originally Posted by faboka vrs

oilburninnut. Could it be possible the actuator has been played with? Your plot is similar to 3fs jnr where at 3.5K the torque seems to hold for longer?

got to agree there , very high figures for a standard car , although i don't doubt what Oilburninnut says that he hasn't done anything to it , just a bit suss

20-10-2007, 18:37	#26
oilburninnut Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,643 Members Car: vrs sse Thanks: 184 Thanked 138 Times in 130 Posts	Re: Post Rolling Road Day Discussion and Pictures/Video i will be there(work permiting)tho tom said his standard one made 156 so its not a first __________________ Gary www.dogboxmedia.co.uk

20-10-2007, 18:55	#28
oilburninnut Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,643 Members Car: vrs sse Thanks: 184 Thanked 138 Times in 130 Posts	Re: Post Rolling Road Day Discussion and Pictures/Video i think the question has to be,is 180-185bhp a realistic output from a remap alone?gtjunior's didn't make this and that had the uprated clutch and intercooler,and none of the other mapped fabia's made it either so i wonder if it is possible. __________________ Gary www.dogboxmedia.co.uk

20-10-2007, 19:23	#30
oilburninnut Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,643 Members Car: vrs sse Thanks: 184 Thanked 138 Times in 130 Posts	Re: Post Rolling Road Day Discussion and Pictures/Video not bothering with a remap,as the standard turbo isn't going to be there very long __________________ Gary www.dogboxmedia.co.uk

20-10-2007, 19:25	#31
skudmissile Moving Stables Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,190 Members Car: Thanks: 426 Thanked 182 Times in 164 Posts	Re: Post Rolling Road Day Discussion and Pictures/Video Id like to thank Steve also for organising this, cheers mate I just got back, avec le rear anti roll bar Heres my run, look at the tourqe spike Had a good day, was really nice to put some more faces to usernames cheers john __________________ Run out of CASH

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gav_vrs Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: todmorden Posts: 170 Members Car: subaru legacy GTB + C4 vts Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Post Rolling Road Day Discussion and Pictures/Video was a good day out even in i didnt run the "propper car" and had to settle for a remapped fabia still old smokey joe pulled thru..... i think i need to challenge skud's title as the smokeiest fabia of the day tho will post the figures when i get em back off my brother __________________ Octavia Vrs-Gone Clio 182-Gone C4 VTS "family car" with a fabia Vrs at the weekends Subaru Legacy GTB Twin Turbo "cheap runabout"

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Harry_vRS Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: North Posts: 2,053 Members Car: Skoda Octavia vRS Mk2 Thanks: 17 Thanked 45 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Post Rolling Road Day Discussion and Pictures/Video There was an Octavia vRS on Chipped UK's rollers last week and here's the graph. It's not a very smooth curve due to the car trying to come off the rollers. __________________ \| Silver Octavia v/RS Mk2 \| 18" Alloys \| Dual Zone Climatronic \| Xenons \| \| 273bhp 335lbft \|

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gav_vrs Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: todmorden Posts: 170 Members Car: subaru legacy GTB + C4 vts Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Post Rolling Road Day Discussion and Pictures/Video got a pic of my brothers 200 quid remap __________________ Octavia Vrs-Gone Clio 182-Gone C4 VTS "family car" with a fabia Vrs at the weekends Subaru Legacy GTB Twin Turbo "cheap runabout"

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Snoopie Permanently banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Buckingham Palace Car Park Posts: 4,458 Members Car: Honda Civic Type-R Thanks: 86 Thanked 85 Times in 52 Posts	Re: Post Rolling Road Day Discussion and Pictures/Video Presumably it might be less in a figure, but probably holds better.

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faboka vrs Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Merseyside Posts: 6,043 Members Car: 2004 Fabia vRS TDI PD130 Thanks: 12 Thanked 46 Times in 46 Posts	Re: Post Rolling Road Day Discussion and Pictures/Video Cheers Steve. Well Mine made 125 at the wheels with 240ftlbs. oilburninnut. Could it be possible the actuator has been played with? Your plot is similar to 3fs jnr where at 3.5K the torque seems to hold for longer? __________________ John 2004 Skoda Fabia vRS - Xenons - Heated Seats - Cruise Control - Passenger Airbag Deactivation switch - Side Airbags