225 bhp bam engine upgrade

bigev · 17-05-2008, 21:55

looks like my standard octavia vrs engine has shot it (knackered oil pump)

if the engine is shot it i would like to upgrade to the 225 bam engine

i would like some help on what i need to buy eg full engine ecu and other bits

Lummox · 17-05-2008, 22:00

Engine (complete)
Downpipe and cats
ECU
FMIC or twin coolers (depending if using all the K04 manifolding)
Gearbox(?) If you fancy six speed

bigev · 17-05-2008, 22:04

any ideas on how much the conversion would cost?

Lummox · 17-05-2008, 22:07

I'd say put aside £5k for everything.

bigev · 17-05-2008, 22:12

ok well thats out the window then

what about a straight swap for the standard engine

Lummox · 17-05-2008, 22:36

Depends on whos doing it and what you want.

Salvage AUQ engine about £1k all in, £800 for a local mech to fit it.

bengie · 17-05-2008, 23:19

yeah, 1k for normal engine, 2k for BAM with NO extra's at all is normal.

Lummox · 17-05-2008, 23:31

Unless you manage to buy a Golf with an APX in it for £1500...lol

bengie · 17-05-2008, 23:35

quite.

buy an engine and gearbox and get the rest of the car free!!

claytarget_god · 18-05-2008, 00:14

2002 AUDI TT, S3, 1.8 TURBO ENGINE, 225 BHP, TYPE BAM on eBay, also, Audi, Car Parts, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 26-May-08 12:20:17 BST)

looks like a start mate

Stewart_S3 · 18-05-2008, 01:25

Slightly cheaper one here :-

AUDI TT S3 SEAT LEON CUPRA R 1.8 ENGINE TURBO GEARBOX on eBay, also, Mercedes-Benz, Car Parts, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 19-May-08 11:14:37 BST)

AMK is from the facelift S3 which is 210bhp and has mechanical VVT. BAM is 225bhp and electronic VVT.

Real world difference is negligible.

martziniuk · 18-05-2008, 08:45

So i take it the engine mounting points are all in the same place?

Lummox · 18-05-2008, 08:52

Yeah exactly the same.

Lummox · 18-05-2008, 08:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewart_S3

AMK is from the facelift S3 which is 210bhp and has mechanical VVT. BAM is 225bhp and electronic VVT.

I thought the AMK didn't have VVT and the BAM did. I dont know how VVT works without electronic control. AMK has the same head and cam chain tensioner as my APX.

bengie · 18-05-2008, 09:12

thats bloody cheap that!!

when i was buying my engine last year they were 2k for just the block!

goodridge · 18-05-2008, 10:16

I've been calling around a lot lately for a s3/tt lump for my mk2. The going rate is 1500 quid for everything to do a conversion. However, I'm not 100% sure but I don't know if it would be possible to just swap most of the stuff over from the auq to the other motor and then have your ecu re-flashed with a custom map. I know some people have done this in MK4 Golfs. So I see know reason it couldn't be in there and running for around 2k ish.

Lummox · 18-05-2008, 13:25

Depends on which 225 engine you have BAM engines have extra sensors for exhaust gas temp and a ew other systems that the AUQ doesnt so the OEM ECU wont be able to run with them.

VRSPhil · 18-05-2008, 13:38

What's the APX?

Lummox · 18-05-2008, 13:46

225 bhp Audi TT engine.

VRSPhil · 18-05-2008, 14:02

What's the difference between the APX and the BAM then? Am I being thick?

17-05-2008, 21:55	#1
bigev Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	225 bhp bam engine upgrade looks like my standard octavia vrs engine has shot it (knackered oil pump) if the engine is shot it i would like to upgrade to the 225 bam engine i would like some help on what i need to buy eg full engine ecu and other bits

17-05-2008, 22:00	#2
Lummox U18 Automotive Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,805 Thanks: 22 Thanked 658 Times in 554 Posts	Re: 225 bhp bam engine upgrade Engine (complete) Downpipe and cats ECU FMIC or twin coolers (depending if using all the K04 manifolding) Gearbox(?) If you fancy six speed __________________ Unit 18 Automotive Services now open Servicing, repairs, modifications you name it we do it. Cupra console bushes at special price, PM for a very competitive quote.

17-05-2008, 22:04	#3
bigev Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 225 bhp bam engine upgrade any ideas on how much the conversion would cost?

17-05-2008, 22:07	#4
Lummox U18 Automotive Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,805 Thanks: 22 Thanked 658 Times in 554 Posts	Re: 225 bhp bam engine upgrade I'd say put aside £5k for everything. __________________ Unit 18 Automotive Services now open Servicing, repairs, modifications you name it we do it. Cupra console bushes at special price, PM for a very competitive quote.

17-05-2008, 22:12	#5
bigev Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 225 bhp bam engine upgrade ok well thats out the window then what about a straight swap for the standard engine

17-05-2008, 22:36	#6
Lummox U18 Automotive Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,805 Thanks: 22 Thanked 658 Times in 554 Posts	Re: 225 bhp bam engine upgrade Depends on whos doing it and what you want. Salvage AUQ engine about £1k all in, £800 for a local mech to fit it. __________________ Unit 18 Automotive Services now open Servicing, repairs, modifications you name it we do it. Cupra console bushes at special price, PM for a very competitive quote.

17-05-2008, 23:19	#7
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 14,963 Thanks: 15 Thanked 128 Times in 111 Posts	Re: 225 bhp bam engine upgrade yeah, 1k for normal engine, 2k for BAM with NO extra's at all is normal. __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

17-05-2008, 23:31	#8
Lummox U18 Automotive Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,805 Thanks: 22 Thanked 658 Times in 554 Posts	Re: 225 bhp bam engine upgrade Unless you manage to buy a Golf with an APX in it for £1500...lol __________________ Unit 18 Automotive Services now open Servicing, repairs, modifications you name it we do it. Cupra console bushes at special price, PM for a very competitive quote.

17-05-2008, 23:35	#9
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 14,963 Thanks: 15 Thanked 128 Times in 111 Posts	Re: 225 bhp bam engine upgrade quite. buy an engine and gearbox and get the rest of the car free!! __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

18-05-2008, 00:14	#10
claytarget_god Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Cardiff Posts: 569 Thanks: 56 Thanked 20 Times in 20 Posts	Re: 225 bhp bam engine upgrade 2002 AUDI TT, S3, 1.8 TURBO ENGINE, 225 BHP, TYPE BAM on eBay, also, Audi, Car Parts, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 26-May-08 12:20:17 BST) looks like a start mate __________________ Done: PowerFlex Dogbone Bushes, Forge FMIC, CAI, forge DV, N75j, Longlife 200cel Cat 2.5" cat-back,Weitec GT coilovers, Whiteline 22mm ARB and S3 Front Lower Brace,SuperPRO Wishbone/Front ARB Bushes, Remap, LCR Front Splitter, Milotec front grills, 18" Team Dynamic Pro Race 1.2(StarSilver) To Do: TIP, Front Bumper: Milotec Side Vents, Middle Grill Cut-Out?, Milotec Rear Bumper Splitter, , VSport Custom Remap.

18-05-2008, 01:25	#11
Stewart_S3 Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Blackpool Posts: 36 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 225 bhp bam engine upgrade Slightly cheaper one here :- AUDI TT S3 SEAT LEON CUPRA R 1.8 ENGINE TURBO GEARBOX on eBay, also, Mercedes-Benz, Car Parts, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 19-May-08 11:14:37 BST) AMK is from the facelift S3 which is 210bhp and has mechanical VVT. BAM is 225bhp and electronic VVT. Real world difference is negligible. __________________ Public Enemy #1. Wanted on many forums on three counts of bad behaviour: 1. Daring to criticise the mighty S3 and LCR (and now VRS!) and questioning their greatness. 2. Upsetting the cotton-wool people who inhabit the above forums 3. Founding Member of Monty Python's 'Argument Clinic'.

18-05-2008, 08:45	#12
martziniuk Need more power Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Driffield, Good old yorkshire Posts: 1,747 Thanks: 37 Thanked 127 Times in 126 Posts	Re: 225 bhp bam engine upgrade So i take it the engine mounting points are all in the same place? __________________ Regards Martin Turbo back blueflame exhaust ,Forge FMDV006 Dump valve, Autobahn88 TIP, CAI ,Remapped, FMIC soon.....

18-05-2008, 08:52	#13
Lummox U18 Automotive Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,805 Thanks: 22 Thanked 658 Times in 554 Posts	Re: 225 bhp bam engine upgrade Yeah exactly the same. __________________ Unit 18 Automotive Services now open Servicing, repairs, modifications you name it we do it. Cupra console bushes at special price, PM for a very competitive quote.

18-05-2008, 09:12	#15
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 14,963 Thanks: 15 Thanked 128 Times in 111 Posts	Re: 225 bhp bam engine upgrade thats bloody cheap that!! when i was buying my engine last year they were 2k for just the block! __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

18-05-2008, 10:16	#16
goodridge Briskodian Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 225 bhp bam engine upgrade I've been calling around a lot lately for a s3/tt lump for my mk2. The going rate is 1500 quid for everything to do a conversion. However, I'm not 100% sure but I don't know if it would be possible to just swap most of the stuff over from the auq to the other motor and then have your ecu re-flashed with a custom map. I know some people have done this in MK4 Golfs. So I see know reason it couldn't be in there and running for around 2k ish.

18-05-2008, 13:25	#17
Lummox U18 Automotive Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,805 Thanks: 22 Thanked 658 Times in 554 Posts	Re: 225 bhp bam engine upgrade Depends on which 225 engine you have BAM engines have extra sensors for exhaust gas temp and a ew other systems that the AUQ doesnt so the OEM ECU wont be able to run with them. __________________ Unit 18 Automotive Services now open Servicing, repairs, modifications you name it we do it. Cupra console bushes at special price, PM for a very competitive quote.

18-05-2008, 13:38	#18
VRSPhil Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cleveland Posts: 2,213 Thanks: 178 Thanked 190 Times in 134 Posts	Re: 225 bhp bam engine upgrade What's the APX? __________________ Octavia vRS WRC

18-05-2008, 13:46	#19
Lummox U18 Automotive Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,805 Thanks: 22 Thanked 658 Times in 554 Posts	Re: 225 bhp bam engine upgrade 225 bhp Audi TT engine. __________________ Unit 18 Automotive Services now open Servicing, repairs, modifications you name it we do it. Cupra console bushes at special price, PM for a very competitive quote.

18-05-2008, 14:02	#20
VRSPhil Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cleveland Posts: 2,213 Thanks: 178 Thanked 190 Times in 134 Posts	Re: 225 bhp bam engine upgrade What's the difference between the APX and the BAM then? Am I being thick? __________________ Octavia vRS WRC

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