Keys

BarryD · 06-10-2006, 12:06

Hi All,
I'm BarryD recently registered. Please forgive me if I commit any protocol errors. I am the proud owner of an of Otavia Elegance T 4x4. Unfortunatly I recently lost my spare key, And Iam worried that someone could find it and get access to the car. Is there any solution to this problen other than having a new set of locks fitted.

Regards

BarryD

**VRStu** · 06-10-2006, 12:52

You can delete the immo info from the Dash Pod so they wouldn't be able to drive it. Other than that it's new locks.

BarryD · 07-10-2006, 08:28

Hi Stu,

Many thanks for your quick responce,

Regards

BarryD

**VRStu** · 07-10-2006, 09:48

No problem Barry.

To perhaps make things a little clearer, when you buy a new key and have it coded to the car part of the process is to 'delete' the current keys from th car so it would all be covered by the same operation.

You can do keys yourself with VAG-COM.

bengie · 07-10-2006, 09:58

you can buy a key from ebay quite cheaply, i have 3 now thanks to this. the key could be from a seat, an audi or a VW aswell as a skoda just make sure you get the right freqeuncy key otherwise it will not work. blank key blades are also quite cheap.

i got 3 all in for about 2/3 the cost of one from a dealer

mbames · 07-10-2006, 10:41

how do you find out what frequency the keys should be?

bengie · 07-10-2006, 10:45

open your current key and take a look, it will say it on the sender thingy, i think its 433Mhz but i could be wrong.

mbames · 07-10-2006, 11:08

I think I have fabia keys on my Octy.....

it does say 433 on the side on the keyfob though....

**VRStu** · 07-10-2006, 11:11

I think they all say Fab on the blade.

Are you thinking of of getting Flip Keys then?

mbames · 07-10-2006, 11:14

well maybe... i dunno. I guess I should spend money on more important things like fixing the turbo, shocks, new disks.... or maybe a new car!! I think my car paperwork said something about replacement keys when I bought it....

Lookong on ebay I see 433.9Mhz for some vw/audi keys.... does that round up to be 434, or down to 433 (what I guess I need)

VRSPhil · 07-10-2006, 14:18

I don't think they round either way do they? If they do, and its a .9 I would say it would round up. But I don't think it works like that. I'm looking at my key now and can't see a frequency but the number it has on is;
HLO 1J0 959 753 AG Both keys have that number on. They're the twin button flip keys. Don't know if that will help mind!

richm · 08-10-2006, 09:49

remember there are two parts to the key - the remote unlocking function (which the frequency and VAG part number refers to, and which you can program yourself with a simple procedure) and the immobiliser transponder part (the transponder is buried in the front blade moulding part of the key and needs to go to a dealer or specialist to program)
As stated, part of the transponder programming operation erases all keys from the system, so you have to have all current keys present to program back in at the same time. Unwanted remote unlocking codes can be cleared with Vagcom IIRC.

**VRStu** · 08-10-2006, 10:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by richm

the transponder is buried in the front blade moulding part of the key and needs to go to a dealer or specialist to program.

Why??

Fabia-vrs.com - Key Coding

richm · 08-10-2006, 19:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRStu

Why??

Fabia-vrs.com - Key Coding

fair play

I wasn't aware Vagcom included that function..

Turbo_Boss · 09-10-2006, 15:42

So just curious............If I have the VAG COM installed on a laptop, can I go with a new key and steel your car?

Isaac

richm · 09-10-2006, 15:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo_Boss

So just curious............If I have the VAG COM installed on a laptop, can I go with a new key and steel your car?

Isaac

nope... not unless you know the security PIN code for the car...

**VRStu** · 09-10-2006, 15:54

No you can't. To program the immo you need the 4 digit SKC.

06-10-2006, 12:06	#1
BarryD Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Keys Hi All, I'm BarryD recently registered. Please forgive me if I commit any protocol errors. I am the proud owner of an of Otavia Elegance T 4x4. Unfortunatly I recently lost my spare key, And Iam worried that someone could find it and get access to the car. Is there any solution to this problen other than having a new set of locks fitted. Regards BarryD Last edited by BarryD; 06-10-2006 at 12:07.

06-10-2006, 12:52	#2
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,433 Thanks: 114 Thanked 925 Times in 830 Posts	Re: Keys You can delete the immo info from the Dash Pod so they wouldn't be able to drive it. Other than that it's new locks. __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - Hmm, Have a guess...... SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

07-10-2006, 08:28	#3
BarryD Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Keys Hi Stu, Many thanks for your quick responce, Regards BarryD

07-10-2006, 09:48	#4
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,433 Thanks: 114 Thanked 925 Times in 830 Posts	Re: Keys No problem Barry. To perhaps make things a little clearer, when you buy a new key and have it coded to the car part of the process is to 'delete' the current keys from th car so it would all be covered by the same operation. You can do keys yourself with VAG-COM. __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - Hmm, Have a guess...... SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

07-10-2006, 09:58	#5
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 14,963 Thanks: 15 Thanked 128 Times in 111 Posts	Re: Keys you can buy a key from ebay quite cheaply, i have 3 now thanks to this. the key could be from a seat, an audi or a VW aswell as a skoda just make sure you get the right freqeuncy key otherwise it will not work. blank key blades are also quite cheap. i got 3 all in for about 2/3 the cost of one from a dealer __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

07-10-2006, 10:41	#6
mbames Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Weymouth, Dorset Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 0 Thanked 67 Times in 59 Posts	Re: Keys how do you find out what frequency the keys should be?

07-10-2006, 10:45	#7
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 14,963 Thanks: 15 Thanked 128 Times in 111 Posts	Re: Keys open your current key and take a look, it will say it on the sender thingy, i think its 433Mhz but i could be wrong. __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

07-10-2006, 11:11	#9
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,433 Thanks: 114 Thanked 925 Times in 830 Posts	Re: Keys I think they all say Fab on the blade. Are you thinking of of getting Flip Keys then? __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - Hmm, Have a guess...... SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

07-10-2006, 11:14	#10
mbames Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Weymouth, Dorset Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 0 Thanked 67 Times in 59 Posts	Re: Keys well maybe... i dunno. I guess I should spend money on more important things like fixing the turbo, shocks, new disks.... or maybe a new car!! I think my car paperwork said something about replacement keys when I bought it.... Lookong on ebay I see 433.9Mhz for some vw/audi keys.... does that round up to be 434, or down to 433 (what I guess I need) Last edited by mbames; 07-10-2006 at 11:16.

07-10-2006, 14:18	#11
VRSPhil Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cleveland Posts: 2,213 Thanks: 178 Thanked 190 Times in 134 Posts	Re: Keys I don't think they round either way do they? If they do, and its a .9 I would say it would round up. But I don't think it works like that. I'm looking at my key now and can't see a frequency but the number it has on is; HLO 1J0 959 753 AG Both keys have that number on. They're the twin button flip keys. Don't know if that will help mind!

08-10-2006, 09:49	#12
richm Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Melksham Posts: 530 Thanks: 3 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Keys remember there are two parts to the key - the remote unlocking function (which the frequency and VAG part number refers to, and which you can program yourself with a simple procedure) and the immobiliser transponder part (the transponder is buried in the front blade moulding part of the key and needs to go to a dealer or specialist to program) As stated, part of the transponder programming operation erases all keys from the system, so you have to have all current keys present to program back in at the same time. Unwanted remote unlocking codes can be cleared with Vagcom IIRC.

09-10-2006, 15:42	#15
Turbo_Boss Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Panama Republic of Panama Posts: 308 Thanks: 1 Thanked 10 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Keys So just curious............If I have the VAG COM installed on a laptop, can I go with a new key and steel your car? Isaac __________________ A little help goes a long way with some people, as it does here at Briskoda.

09-10-2006, 15:54	#17
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,433 Thanks: 114 Thanked 925 Times in 830 Posts	Re: Keys No you can't. To program the immo you need the 4 digit SKC. __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - Hmm, Have a guess...... SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

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