Low Power on vRS

apinner · 17-05-2006, 23:08

Drove to work this morning and the car was driving perfect, on my way home about a tenth into my journey i noticed the octy seemed to be a bit low on power..

I have been out in it this evening and its not right at all, before you could hear the turbo spinning in all gears, now only a small amount in 1st and 2nd anything higher and its just a bit gutless..

sitting at 80 in 5th just in boost if you poked the throttle a bit it would surge and shoot off now it just drived like a standard none turbo car.

Any ideas guys? will VAG-COM tell me is something is up?

Sheaf · 18-05-2006, 06:45

Sounds like a boost hose has come off. It'd be louder too if it's that.

Lummox · 18-05-2006, 07:39

Sounds like the ECU has shut down. MAF problems can feel like this but usually you can still hear it boosting. VAG COM will help in finding the cause. Have a search around for '17705' and see if anything sounds familiar.

apinner · 18-05-2006, 09:09

Second question, anyone near darlington/middlesbrough with VAG-COM willing to help out a fellow briskodian?

I drove to work this morning hoping it may have sorted itself.. normally if you floor it in second on a wet road the traction control light blinks like crazy.. nothing of the sort!

apinner · 18-05-2006, 10:12

Someone at work came up with a suggestion, on his subaru if a sensor or something fails the ecu goes into a derated state to try and protect the engine. Does the octavia ECU do the same?

If so wouldn't i be seeing a engine warning light on the dash?

SkodiRS · 18-05-2006, 10:49

If you say it feels like NA engine and you can't hear the dv venting...even in a standard car you can hear it a little..then it's gone into limp mode..i.e. ECU by passes/shuts down turbo...no lights come on....IIRC.....basically what Ross said.

IMHO.

*Note: all my usual disclaimers apply.

cheezemonkhai · 18-05-2006, 10:57

The Octy engine has a limp home mode.

apinner · 18-05-2006, 11:19

Its not limping.. its still quickish just not the same as it was in the morning.

Ah well i have booked it into the local skoda garage and they are going to diagnose the problem. Fingers crossed its not going to set me back a small fortune!

Goochie · 18-05-2006, 11:20

Sounds like a hose problem to me. Without a diagnostic check it is difficult to tell though.

mattbeef · 18-05-2006, 15:56

Just have a quick look around the turbo and intercooler pipes and check all the connections

rob-vrs · 18-05-2006, 21:32

wahey! bloke from middlesbrough at last ! tho i was only one here .. if i had the vag com i would help but i don't have it but u did the right choice to take it down our friendly skoda derek slack they will sort u out easy.

My octy vrs down derek slack garage at the mo for new front wheel bearing to put in and only cost me 119 quid all in . which i am surprise for a price !
the staffs is very friendly as well.

apinner · 18-05-2006, 21:53

Yeah they werent too bad on the phone!

Middlesbrough eh, aint seen your around! yellow vRS's are quite distinctive. You probably live in one of the nicer parts, i am just off linthorp road in the hood!!

Only for a couple more months though then i go back to uni in huddersfield.

rob-vrs · 19-05-2006, 07:19

i live not far from cineworld cinema mate. My octy vrs don't go out much as i have a other car which use to runner about in.
what colour your vrs mate ? so i will keep my eye out !
my is mellow yellow with private reg.
c ya around

apinner · 19-05-2006, 09:20

Mine is black, only defining feature from standard is a 'all electric garage' sticker and 'skoda motorsport' sticker in the rear window.

Ill keep my eye out..

apinner · 19-05-2006, 11:49

Well the garage just rang. Plugged in the ecu and it had a fault saying there was sparodic pressure in one of the turbo intake hoses.

No one could tell me if thats what was causing the problem, or if fixing the pipe would solve the issue as it may be masking another problem. So they advised the pipe be replaced next wednesday and run some more diagnostics.

But they are going to charge me £125 for the pleasure. And if that doesn't fix it then more on top of that.

pffftttt i have only had the car a fortnight!

mattbeef · 19-05-2006, 18:50

Dang thats expensive i hope that its an expensive pipe they are putting on for you

apinner · 20-05-2006, 14:14

i do too.. gold plated I would hope!

Timo · 14-06-2006, 12:14

Did you ever find out what the problem was? Every now and then, Mine seems to go ok to 80, then even if change to 4th, won't go any faster. Nightmare if overtaking at the time.
Please tell me it was a cheap and easy fix.

apinner · 14-06-2006, 16:52

Yeah.. it turns out its a common problem! search for "where does this pipe go" or something similar and you will find the pipe.

It goes into the bottom of the intercooler and apparently has a dodgy seal. It cost me £38 for the pipe and took me 15 minutes to fit using nothing more than a trolley jack, axle stands and a flat head screw driver.

***DGW*** · 14-06-2006, 17:18

The modified pressure hose part number is 06A 145 790C.

17-05-2006, 23:08	#1
apinner Numberwang Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grimsby Posts: 1,727 Thanks: 57 Thanked 83 Times in 42 Posts	Low Power on vRS Drove to work this morning and the car was driving perfect, on my way home about a tenth into my journey i noticed the octy seemed to be a bit low on power.. I have been out in it this evening and its not right at all, before you could hear the turbo spinning in all gears, now only a small amount in 1st and 2nd anything higher and its just a bit gutless.. sitting at 80 in 5th just in boost if you poked the throttle a bit it would surge and shoot off now it just drived like a standard none turbo car. Any ideas guys? will VAG-COM tell me is something is up? __________________ . Alex .

18-05-2006, 06:45	#2
Sheaf Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South UK Posts: 157 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Low Power on vRS Sounds like a boost hose has come off. It'd be louder too if it's that. __________________ Parents: '02 Octavia 1.9TDi Me: '99 V Honda Accord Type-R

18-05-2006, 07:39	#3
Lummox U18 Automotive Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,747 Thanks: 22 Thanked 633 Times in 543 Posts	Re: Low Power on vRS Sounds like the ECU has shut down. MAF problems can feel like this but usually you can still hear it boosting. VAG COM will help in finding the cause. Have a search around for '17705' and see if anything sounds familiar. __________________ Unit 18 Automotive Services now open Servicing, repairs, modifications you name it we do it. Cupra console bushes at special price, PM for a very competitive quote.

18-05-2006, 09:09	#4
apinner Numberwang Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grimsby Posts: 1,727 Thanks: 57 Thanked 83 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Low Power on vRS Second question, anyone near darlington/middlesbrough with VAG-COM willing to help out a fellow briskodian? I drove to work this morning hoping it may have sorted itself.. normally if you floor it in second on a wet road the traction control light blinks like crazy.. nothing of the sort! __________________ . Alex . Last edited by apinner; 18-05-2006 at 09:28.

18-05-2006, 10:12	#5
apinner Numberwang Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grimsby Posts: 1,727 Thanks: 57 Thanked 83 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Low Power on vRS Someone at work came up with a suggestion, on his subaru if a sensor or something fails the ecu goes into a derated state to try and protect the engine. Does the octavia ECU do the same? If so wouldn't i be seeing a engine warning light on the dash? __________________ . Alex .

18-05-2006, 10:49	#6
SkodiRS BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: darkest Hampshire Posts: 8,650 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Low Power on vRS If you say it feels like NA engine and you can't hear the dv venting...even in a standard car you can hear it a little..then it's gone into limp mode..i.e. ECU by passes/shuts down turbo...no lights come on....IIRC.....basically what Ross said. IMHO. *Note: all my usual disclaimers apply. __________________ Adrian.

18-05-2006, 10:57	#7
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 14,593 Thanks: 86 Thanked 393 Times in 364 Posts	Re: Low Power on vRS The Octy engine has a limp home mode. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

18-05-2006, 11:19	#8
apinner Numberwang Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grimsby Posts: 1,727 Thanks: 57 Thanked 83 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Low Power on vRS Its not limping.. its still quickish just not the same as it was in the morning. Ah well i have booked it into the local skoda garage and they are going to diagnose the problem. Fingers crossed its not going to set me back a small fortune! __________________ . Alex .

18-05-2006, 11:20	#9
Goochie Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Up a tree. Posts: 12,376 Thanks: 7 Thanked 28 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Low Power on vRS Sounds like a hose problem to me. Without a diagnostic check it is difficult to tell though.

18-05-2006, 15:56	#10
mattbeef Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sheffield Posts: 3,349 Thanks: 38 Thanked 116 Times in 115 Posts	Re: Low Power on vRS Just have a quick look around the turbo and intercooler pipes and check all the connections

18-05-2006, 21:32	#11
rob-vrs Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Middlesbrough Posts: 108 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Low Power on vRS wahey! bloke from middlesbrough at last ! tho i was only one here .. if i had the vag com i would help but i don't have it but u did the right choice to take it down our friendly skoda derek slack they will sort u out easy. My octy vrs down derek slack garage at the mo for new front wheel bearing to put in and only cost me 119 quid all in . which i am surprise for a price ! the staffs is very friendly as well. __________________ Rob VW Touran 2.0 tdi sport 140bhp 6 speed reflex silver 7 seater

18-05-2006, 21:53	#12
apinner Numberwang Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grimsby Posts: 1,727 Thanks: 57 Thanked 83 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Low Power on vRS Yeah they werent too bad on the phone! Middlesbrough eh, aint seen your around! yellow vRS's are quite distinctive. You probably live in one of the nicer parts, i am just off linthorp road in the hood!! Only for a couple more months though then i go back to uni in huddersfield. __________________ . Alex .

19-05-2006, 07:19	#13
rob-vrs Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Middlesbrough Posts: 108 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Low Power on vRS i live not far from cineworld cinema mate. My octy vrs don't go out much as i have a other car which use to runner about in. what colour your vrs mate ? so i will keep my eye out ! my is mellow yellow with private reg. c ya around __________________ Rob VW Touran 2.0 tdi sport 140bhp 6 speed reflex silver 7 seater

19-05-2006, 09:20	#14
apinner Numberwang Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grimsby Posts: 1,727 Thanks: 57 Thanked 83 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Low Power on vRS Mine is black, only defining feature from standard is a 'all electric garage' sticker and 'skoda motorsport' sticker in the rear window. Ill keep my eye out.. __________________ . Alex .

19-05-2006, 11:49	#15
apinner Numberwang Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grimsby Posts: 1,727 Thanks: 57 Thanked 83 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Low Power on vRS Well the garage just rang. Plugged in the ecu and it had a fault saying there was sparodic pressure in one of the turbo intake hoses. No one could tell me if thats what was causing the problem, or if fixing the pipe would solve the issue as it may be masking another problem. So they advised the pipe be replaced next wednesday and run some more diagnostics. But they are going to charge me £125 for the pleasure. And if that doesn't fix it then more on top of that. pffftttt i have only had the car a fortnight! __________________ . Alex .

14-06-2006, 17:18	#20
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,112 Thanks: 48 Thanked 165 Times in 122 Posts	Re: Low Power on vRS The modified pressure hose part number is 06A 145 790C. __________________ Denis 2002 Octavia 1.8T 4X4 turbo Estate - rebreathed on by Jabba ... 31.93mpg 2007 Fabia vRS - CC, ESP and full leather trim by Seat Surgeons ...48.09 mpg...

19-05-2006, 18:50	#16
mattbeef Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sheffield Posts: 3,349 Thanks: 38 Thanked 116 Times in 115 Posts	Re: Low Power on vRS Dang thats expensive i hope that its an expensive pipe they are putting on for you

20-05-2006, 14:14	#17
apinner Numberwang Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grimsby Posts: 1,727 Thanks: 57 Thanked 83 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Low Power on vRS i do too.. gold plated I would hope! __________________ . Alex .

14-06-2006, 12:14	#18
Timo Briskodian Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 388 Thanks: 9 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Low Power on vRS Did you ever find out what the problem was? Every now and then, Mine seems to go ok to 80, then even if change to 4th, won't go any faster. Nightmare if overtaking at the time. Please tell me it was a cheap and easy fix.

14-06-2006, 16:52	#19
apinner Numberwang Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grimsby Posts: 1,727 Thanks: 57 Thanked 83 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Low Power on vRS Yeah.. it turns out its a common problem! search for "where does this pipe go" or something similar and you will find the pipe. It goes into the bottom of the intercooler and apparently has a dodgy seal. It cost me £38 for the pipe and took me 15 minutes to fit using nothing more than a trolley jack, axle stands and a flat head screw driver. __________________ . Alex .

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