Octavia 4x4 Brake Fade

Stealth · 16-02-2005, 16:30

I have noticed significant brake fade under heavy but not severe braking on my 04 plate Octy 4x4.

Is this common and if so, why are the pads not rated to provide reliable braking under reasonably moderate circumstances? Any help would be most appreciated.

Stuart_J · 16-02-2005, 16:50

From what I can recall of my 4x4 when it had standard brakes, fade was never a problem & I had come from an Impreza, I would guess their is a problem with the car

Tavia4x4 · 16-02-2005, 16:56

I would disagree with you there Stuart, but then maybe I'm a little harder on brakes than you....

I found mine very easy to fade cross country - Ferodo DSC2500 pads and maybe better fluid, makes all the world of difference.

Dutch4x4 · 16-02-2005, 17:01

I found that the standard brakes are surprisingly efficient. No brake fade experience here, not even on track days.

(But then I'm slow.

)

Tavia4x4 · 16-02-2005, 17:02

Ok, it's official, I'm a nutter......

Dutch4x4 · 16-02-2005, 17:05

That, or it must be the estate's excess weight pushing at the back...

***ColinD*** · 16-02-2005, 17:08

No I didn't like the 4x4 brakes either...fluid helps a lot, then pads, but still felt unstable/not quite right for me.

If it's faded once then chances are it's boiled or got near to boiling and thus now deteriorating quicker now as a result. Also noting the car may of sat for a while pre registration.

Take the car to the dealer and ask them to check the system.

If you desire good super dot 4.1 fluid is circa 7.50 a litre, 2 bottols is enough to flush and fill the system, again a job the dealer can do if the first step is not fruitfull.

bengie · 16-02-2005, 19:49

have had fade on nearly every car i've owned. in fact thats a lie, i HAVE had fade on all cars, even after upgrading discs and pads on my focus. next step after jabba is brakes on my 4x4

Stealth · 16-02-2005, 21:34

Here's the scenario... long straight dual carriageway with roundabout ahead requiring slow to stop from 70 ish! Constant pressure applied to brakes and gradual 'bite' achieved... then fading to nothing... stand on brake pedal and overshoot stop line nearly into roundabout... fresh pair of pants and review of what just happened... have tested motorway with no traffic around and same fading, will take to dealer. Thanks for your help and comments.

bengie · 16-02-2005, 21:56

unless you were trying to stop then in under 35meters then

thats absolutely shocking

16-02-2005, 16:30	#1
Stealth Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Octavia 4x4 Brake Fade I have noticed significant brake fade under heavy but not severe braking on my 04 plate Octy 4x4. Is this common and if so, why are the pads not rated to provide reliable braking under reasonably moderate circumstances? Any help would be most appreciated.

16-02-2005, 16:50	#2
Stuart_J Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Winchester Posts: 5,600 Thanks: 38 Thanked 81 Times in 74 Posts	From what I can recall of my 4x4 when it had standard brakes, fade was never a problem & I had come from an Impreza, I would guess their is a problem with the car __________________ Speed is an addiction for which thankfully there is no cure

16-02-2005, 16:56	#3
Tavia4x4 Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: J5 M61 Posts: 5,294 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I would disagree with you there Stuart, but then maybe I'm a little harder on brakes than you.... I found mine very easy to fade cross country - Ferodo DSC2500 pads and maybe better fluid, makes all the world of difference. __________________ Ian __________________ Nice to be important, but more important to be nice...

16-02-2005, 17:01	#4
Dutch4x4 Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: kicking up feet in the Formula Stealth paddock Posts: 3,153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I found that the standard brakes are surprisingly efficient. No brake fade experience here, not even on track days. (But then I'm slow. ) __________________ Mrs D's Briskoda: Octavia 4x4 turbo (2003), Oettinger 210, Koni Sport, MAD Sportive, Dotz Le Mans 17", Bridgestone Potenza S-03, sports interior. And a Fiesta ST (2006) for myself...

16-02-2005, 17:02	#5
Tavia4x4 Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: J5 M61 Posts: 5,294 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok, it's official, I'm a nutter...... __________________ Ian __________________ Nice to be important, but more important to be nice...

16-02-2005, 17:05	#6
Dutch4x4 Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: kicking up feet in the Formula Stealth paddock Posts: 3,153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	That, or it must be the estate's excess weight pushing at the back... __________________ Mrs D's Briskoda: Octavia 4x4 turbo (2003), Oettinger 210, Koni Sport, MAD Sportive, Dotz Le Mans 17", Bridgestone Potenza S-03, sports interior. And a Fiesta ST (2006) for myself...

16-02-2005, 17:08	#7
*ColinD* Site owner Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hill & Mountains of North Wales Posts: 10,217 Thanks: 22 Thanked 138 Times in 70 Posts	No I didn't like the 4x4 brakes either...fluid helps a lot, then pads, but still felt unstable/not quite right for me. If it's faded once then chances are it's boiled or got near to boiling and thus now deteriorating quicker now as a result. Also noting the car may of sat for a while pre registration. Take the car to the dealer and ask them to check the system. If you desire good super dot 4.1 fluid is circa 7.50 a litre, 2 bottols is enough to flush and fill the system, again a job the dealer can do if the first step is not fruitfull. __________________ ColinD - 97/100 Limited Edition Octavia vRS < For Sale www.BRISKODA.net :: Site Owner. E-Mail : webmaster at briskoda dot net Got a comment to make about the site? Please feel free to use the feedback form here, we welcome your views.

16-02-2005, 19:49	#8
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 14,933 Thanks: 15 Thanked 126 Times in 110 Posts	have had fade on nearly every car i've owned. in fact thats a lie, i HAVE had fade on all cars, even after upgrading discs and pads on my focus. next step after jabba is brakes on my 4x4 __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

16-02-2005, 21:34	#9
Stealth Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here's the scenario... long straight dual carriageway with roundabout ahead requiring slow to stop from 70 ish! Constant pressure applied to brakes and gradual 'bite' achieved... then fading to nothing... stand on brake pedal and overshoot stop line nearly into roundabout... fresh pair of pants and review of what just happened... have tested motorway with no traffic around and same fading, will take to dealer. Thanks for your help and comments.

16-02-2005, 21:56	#10
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 14,933 Thanks: 15 Thanked 126 Times in 110 Posts	unless you were trying to stop then in under 35meters then thats absolutely shocking __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

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