Rubbish fog lights

pilgrim · 08-11-2006, 11:44

on my 02 Octy L&K estate, they are pants, its the only thing I don't like about the car the fog lights on my old Focus were miles better? any way to improve them on the Octy?

ScoobyChris · 08-11-2006, 11:46

Is this because they're in the headlamp cluster, rather than lower down and closer to the road?

Chris

pilgrim · 08-11-2006, 11:49

Thats what I thought too?? never had a car with them there before?

ScoobyChris · 08-11-2006, 11:51

And it seems Skoda have fixed them on the Octy 2! I guess you could wire in some lower-level lamps, but for the amount of fog we have in this country, I'm not sure it's worth the effort

Chris

VRSPhil · 08-11-2006, 19:37

Maybe Skoda designed them to be crap to stop idiots from driving with them on during non foggy conditions? :|

Fabia 12v · 08-11-2006, 21:54

Golf MKIVs and Superbs have them in same place

jonny boy · 08-11-2006, 21:58

I agree with VRSPhil.
Most manufacturers are to blame anyway. They even advertise their cars now with " sporty spot lights"

Little wonder the owners don't have the foggiest what they're really for.

Mr Grumpy · 08-11-2006, 22:11

Why would you want lights for rubbish fog anyway?
Surely you want lights for good fog

ChrisRs · 09-11-2006, 18:51

Don't get me going on Fog Lights again. I'M SICK TO DEATH OF D***HEADS BLINDING ME AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY!.....I don't think they know they are committing an offence. IMO ALL fog lights should be banned. We just dont need them!! If you dont think they are bright enough....Tough. Think of others you are blinding firstpilgrim...................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................... I feel better now

cheezemonkhai · 10-11-2006, 00:42

Fog lights have been essential down this way the last week, to the extent that I have been driving on sidelights and foglights. Dipped beam was off as the light was reflecting back that much resulting in me seeing nothing with it on.

Obviously when this is the case you slow down significantly, and when you are out of the fog you turn them off, but you do need them, at least at the rear.

I actually like the fog lights in the headlights as you don't end up with as many broken fog light lenses. Also the octy I ones are projector lenses which effects how the light is thrown, but while this adds little light to dipped beam (a good thing) I find it great in the thick fog.

WW_VRS · 10-11-2006, 07:26

Xenons are a blessing for fog

I have used my fog lights a few times this year, probably less than 10 times though for genuine reasons.

I have used them to indicate to those who are blatently unable to work out when to use foglights or where the OFF switch is that it would be worth turning the frigging things off.

The way the VAG group light switch works is great for turning them off but I find it a royal PITB that you cannot flash the rear fog on it's own, as it means you cannot bring it to someone's attention they have their fog on without annoying the driver(s) up front

cheezemonkhai · 10-11-2006, 12:50

Do the Xennons not reflect as much then due to the projector lense or something?

Chris_Focus · 10-11-2006, 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRSPhil

Maybe Skoda designed them to be crap to stop idiots from driving with them on during non foggy conditions? :|

WW_VRS · 10-11-2006, 13:42

Excellent VRSPhil

Xenons don't appear to reflect quite so much probably due to the light colour, but I guess the sharp cutoff at the 'high end' of the beam may be helping too, normal lights will bleed up/outward so probably get reflected more by the fog I suppose.

I'm actually surprised fog lights would ever be integrated into the main light unit for that reason, on a slightly separate note, foglights should be fairly low down to avoid getting blinded by them

cheezemonkhai · 10-11-2006, 13:46

The Octy Fogs are focused at the ground, which is nice.

I find using Osram Super All weather you get almost no reflection of light back from the fog due to the yellowed light thrown out by them.

08-11-2006, 11:44	#1
pilgrim Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 44 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Rubbish fog lights on my 02 Octy L&K estate, they are pants, its the only thing I don't like about the car the fog lights on my old Focus were miles better? any way to improve them on the Octy?

08-11-2006, 11:46	#2
ScoobyChris Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Andover Posts: 18,117 Thanks: 15 Thanked 326 Times in 284 Posts	Re: Rubbish fog lights Is this because they're in the headlamp cluster, rather than lower down and closer to the road? Chris __________________ Holding up the traffic in a little Italian..........

08-11-2006, 11:49	#3
pilgrim Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 44 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Rubbish fog lights Thats what I thought too?? never had a car with them there before?

08-11-2006, 11:51	#4
ScoobyChris Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Andover Posts: 18,117 Thanks: 15 Thanked 326 Times in 284 Posts	Re: Rubbish fog lights And it seems Skoda have fixed them on the Octy 2! I guess you could wire in some lower-level lamps, but for the amount of fog we have in this country, I'm not sure it's worth the effort Chris __________________ Holding up the traffic in a little Italian..........

08-11-2006, 19:37	#5
VRSPhil Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cleveland Posts: 2,206 Thanks: 178 Thanked 189 Times in 134 Posts	Re: Rubbish fog lights Maybe Skoda designed them to be crap to stop idiots from driving with them on during non foggy conditions? :\|

08-11-2006, 21:54	#6
Fabia 12v RICHARD Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Twickenham - Middlesex Posts: 4,933 Thanks: 5 Thanked 17 Times in 15 Posts	Re: Rubbish fog lights Golf MKIVs and Superbs have them in same place __________________ First Car: Skoda Fabia MK1 1.2 12v Comfort Replaced with: Volkswagen Golf MK4 GT 1.9TDI Replaced with: Seat Ibiza MK4 Sport 1.9TDI Replaced with: Volkswagen Polo MK5 Ltd. Edition Sport 1.4 16v To be replaced with: Volkswagen Golf Mk5 Final Edition GTI 2.0TFSI 16v... early 2009.

08-11-2006, 21:58	#7
jonny boy Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cumbria Posts: 2,042 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Rubbish fog lights I agree with VRSPhil. Most manufacturers are to blame anyway. They even advertise their cars now with " sporty spot lights" Little wonder the owners don't have the foggiest what they're really for. __________________ Jon.

08-11-2006, 22:11	#8
Mr Grumpy Ho Hum Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Not here Posts: 4,483 Thanks: 7 Thanked 155 Times in 91 Posts	Re: Rubbish fog lights Why would you want lights for rubbish fog anyway? Surely you want lights for good fog __________________ I turned the light off.............

09-11-2006, 18:51	#9
ChrisRs Skonda Fabic Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,979 Thanks: 17 Thanked 20 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Rubbish fog lights Don't get me going on Fog Lights again. I'M SICK TO DEATH OF D***HEADS BLINDING ME AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY!.....I don't think they know they are committing an offence. IMO ALL fog lights should be banned. We just dont need them!! If you dont think they are bright enough....Tough. Think of others you are blinding firstpilgrim...................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................... I feel better now

10-11-2006, 00:42	#10
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 14,604 Thanks: 86 Thanked 394 Times in 365 Posts	Re: Rubbish fog lights Fog lights have been essential down this way the last week, to the extent that I have been driving on sidelights and foglights. Dipped beam was off as the light was reflecting back that much resulting in me seeing nothing with it on. Obviously when this is the case you slow down significantly, and when you are out of the fog you turn them off, but you do need them, at least at the rear. I actually like the fog lights in the headlights as you don't end up with as many broken fog light lenses. Also the octy I ones are projector lenses which effects how the light is thrown, but while this adds little light to dipped beam (a good thing) I find it great in the thick fog. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

10-11-2006, 07:26	#11
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,734 Thanks: 44 Thanked 70 Times in 61 Posts	Re: Rubbish fog lights Xenons are a blessing for fog I have used my fog lights a few times this year, probably less than 10 times though for genuine reasons. I have used them to indicate to those who are blatently unable to work out when to use foglights or where the OFF switch is that it would be worth turning the frigging things off. The way the VAG group light switch works is great for turning them off but I find it a royal PITB that you cannot flash the rear fog on it's own, as it means you cannot bring it to someone's attention they have their fog on without annoying the driver(s) up front __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here

10-11-2006, 12:50	#12
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 14,604 Thanks: 86 Thanked 394 Times in 365 Posts	Re: Rubbish fog lights Do the Xennons not reflect as much then due to the projector lense or something? __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

10-11-2006, 13:42	#14
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,734 Thanks: 44 Thanked 70 Times in 61 Posts	Re: Rubbish fog lights Excellent VRSPhil Xenons don't appear to reflect quite so much probably due to the light colour, but I guess the sharp cutoff at the 'high end' of the beam may be helping too, normal lights will bleed up/outward so probably get reflected more by the fog I suppose. I'm actually surprised fog lights would ever be integrated into the main light unit for that reason, on a slightly separate note, foglights should be fairly low down to avoid getting blinded by them __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here Last edited by WW_VRS; 10-11-2006 at 13:44.

10-11-2006, 13:46	#15
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 14,604 Thanks: 86 Thanked 394 Times in 365 Posts	Re: Rubbish fog lights The Octy Fogs are focused at the ground, which is nice. I find using Osram Super All weather you get almost no reflection of light back from the fog due to the yellowed light thrown out by them. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

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