Something fell off today. What is it ? (PIC)

bazni · 13-11-2007, 18:33

Anybody got any idea what this is ?

Was getting an oil change today and this dropped out when the protective plastic cover under the engine was removed.

mathepac · 13-11-2007, 18:58

A/C compressor clutch plate?

Dr Zoidberg · 13-11-2007, 19:01

Air conditioning clutch

bengie · 13-11-2007, 19:04

i was going to say aircon clutch but not sure now after what others have said

VRSPhil · 13-11-2007, 19:10

I was going to say a miniature clutch

But I guess that A/C clutch makes more sense

ag.morley · 13-11-2007, 19:14

Brake Disc...........Needs an upgrade................

mathepac · 13-11-2007, 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by bengie

i was going to say aircon clutch but not sure now after what others have said

Oh s***, I'm wrong again, sorry. Its part of the strap from my pre-CBS Fender Jazz bass, sorry again.

bazni · 13-11-2007, 19:43

Can this be re-connected, or will a new clutch be required ?

Any idea how much this would cost ?

Only had the car 5 months, and its cost me £550 in repairs so far (I love the car though)

mathepac · 13-11-2007, 20:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by bazni

Can this be re-connected, or will a new clutch be required ?

Don't see why not as long as the grooves are ok to go back onto the splined shaft. Where did the other bits go? (retaining nut(s), washer(s), belt. Like me, its a dumb piece of kit, but clever in operation

Quote:

Originally Posted by bazni

Any idea how much this would cost ?

No idea I'm afraid. Were some of the repairs to the A/C? If so, someone owes you an apology and a free repair

Quote:

Originally Posted by bazni

Only had the car 5 months, and its cost me £550 in repairs so far (I love the car though)

Glad you are happy with the car. What broke?

**robmawer** · 13-11-2007, 22:10

Does the air-conditioning in the car still work? Am just wondering if the aircon clutch has been replaced at some point in the past and a clumsy tech dropped these (old) parts and left them lying in the bottom tray and not bothered to retrieve them...

Rob.

ric04vrs · 13-11-2007, 22:36

the belt will still be on the pulley as this runs on a bearing mounted on the compressor , the bit thats come off is held on with a bolt . when the air-con is switched on the bit that has come off is pulled towards the rotating pulley , which then rotates the air-con compressor shaft

you may be able to refit it , with the correct bolt , cleaning off the rust maybe a good idea

bazni · 13-11-2007, 23:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by mathepac

Don't see why not as long as the grooves are ok to go back onto the splined shaft. Where did the other bits go? (retaining nut(s), washer(s), belt. Like me, its a dumb piece of kit, but clever in operation

No idea I'm afraid. Were some of the repairs to the A/C? If so, someone owes you an apology and a free repair

Glad you are happy with the car. What broke?

Grooves look OK, no wear, or damage. I haven't the foggiest where the other bits got to, although I did hear a lot of noise the other day for a few seconds. Was probably when it came off.

No repairs to the A/C. I've had no problems with it until now.

What broke, well..........Got the timing belt and water pump replaced, belt was rattling and squeaking.
A week after that the gearbox was like porridge, so needed filled with gear oil.
Next were the brakes, pads and discs all round replaced
Just last week a rear bearing went, and needed the whole hub replaced.
So actually, total cost in 5 months was £640.

59k on the clock when I got it. Theres now 67k.

SK_Rebel · 14-11-2007, 00:37

Sorry to go O.T but that sounds like they were a very rough 59K miles (what plate is it?) and like robmawer said it could well be that they are just "legacy" parts from a bodgeitandscarper job. Does the A/C actually work??
I traded my VRS furby in at 50K of some really fun miles and the only thing that needed work on the car was some suspension work that dealer handled under warrenty.

mathepac · 14-11-2007, 02:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by SK_Rebel

...that sounds like they were a very rough 59K miles (what plate is it?) and like robmawer said it could well be that they are just "legacy" parts from a bodgeitandscarper job...

I agree wholeheartedly with these sentiments, sounds like the s**** was driven out of it and the maintenance might not have been up to spec either.

Sorry, I know you've had your problems with the car and I don't want to add to them, but at this stage it doesn't auger well for the future.

MarkyTDI · 14-11-2007, 06:34

I thought that was just a free toy, don't all octavias came with one on the undertray? Mine did!!

mikeo · 17-11-2007, 15:13

I did an oil change just now, guess what? Yep, I got a free one as well on top of the bottom plate! Where do I need to look to see if it's a spare or my aircon is fecked as well as my turbo?

bengie · 17-11-2007, 18:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by bazni

Got the timing belt and water pump replaced, belt was rattling and squeaking.
A week after that the gearbox was like porridge, so needed filled with gear oil.
Next were the brakes, pads and discs all round replaced
Just last week a rear bearing went, and needed the whole hub replaced.
So actually, total cost in 5 months was £640.

59k on the clock when I got it. Theres now 67k.

so nearly all of the work was simple maintainance then?

my mazda has only done 87k miles yet it has had new discs and pads allround a ouple of times, all new suspension bushes, new drop links, new bottom ball joints, new track rod ends, cam belt and pump and is about to have some new wheel bearings.

this sounds like the first actual fault with the car to me.

mbames · 18-11-2007, 21:42

Deffo the air con clutch plate... I was looking an mine this morning (but it was still attached to the AC unit....!)

greg123 · 13-02-2008, 11:20

Common fault, you'll need a new pump as first the nut comes loose, then the plate wobbles on the splines which eventually strips the splines, then it spins on the shaft and the nut falls off & the clutch plate.

When you get the new one on, make sure the nut is tight!

SimonS · 14-02-2008, 02:59

This happened to me about a year ago. I recognised your pics straight away.

I bought a new air con clutch from a guy on ebay (it was brand new) for about £55. Dealer wanted aprox £200!

Found an independant garage who were able to fit it in situ (saved re-gassing) for £48.

I might still have the part no, if you need it.

13-11-2007, 18:33	#1
bazni Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Something fell off today. What is it ? (PIC) Anybody got any idea what this is ? Was getting an oil change today and this dropped out when the protective plastic cover under the engine was removed.

13-11-2007, 18:58	#2
mathepac Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kilkenny, Ireland Posts: 1,088 Thanks: 34 Thanked 58 Times in 56 Posts	Re: Something fell off today. What is it ? (PIC) A/C compressor clutch plate?

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Dr Zoidberg Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: On the back of an AA truck with a failed turbo Posts: 10,516 Thanks: 21 Thanked 186 Times in 137 Posts	Re: Something fell off today. What is it ? (PIC) Air conditioning clutch __________________ Alex "I laugh in the face of danger, then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk

13-11-2007, 19:04	#4
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 14,933 Thanks: 15 Thanked 126 Times in 110 Posts	Re: Something fell off today. What is it ? (PIC) i was going to say aircon clutch but not sure now after what others have said __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

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VRSPhil Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cleveland Posts: 2,206 Thanks: 178 Thanked 189 Times in 134 Posts	Re: Something fell off today. What is it ? (PIC) I was going to say a miniature clutch But I guess that A/C clutch makes more sense __________________ Octavia vRS WRC

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13-11-2007, 19:43	#8
bazni Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Something fell off today. What is it ? (PIC) Can this be re-connected, or will a new clutch be required ? Any idea how much this would cost ? Only had the car 5 months, and its cost me £550 in repairs so far (I love the car though)

13-11-2007, 22:10	#10
robmawer Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Rochdale Posts: 12,418 Thanks: 2 Thanked 69 Times in 62 Posts	Re: Something fell off today. What is it ? (PIC) Does the air-conditioning in the car still work? Am just wondering if the aircon clutch has been replaced at some point in the past and a clumsy tech dropped these (old) parts and left them lying in the bottom tray and not bothered to retrieve them... Rob. __________________

13-11-2007, 22:36	#11
ric04vrs I parked up 1st Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: not near enough to the Ring Posts: 6,096 Thanks: 29 Thanked 177 Times in 172 Posts	Re: Something fell off today. What is it ? (PIC) the belt will still be on the pulley as this runs on a bearing mounted on the compressor , the bit thats come off is held on with a bolt . when the air-con is switched on the bit that has come off is pulled towards the rotating pulley , which then rotates the air-con compressor shaft you may be able to refit it , with the correct bolt , cleaning off the rust maybe a good idea __________________ not so bored now

14-11-2007, 00:37	#13
SK_Rebel Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 70 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Something fell off today. What is it ? (PIC) Sorry to go O.T but that sounds like they were a very rough 59K miles (what plate is it?) and like robmawer said it could well be that they are just "legacy" parts from a bodgeitandscarper job. Does the A/C actually work?? I traded my VRS furby in at 50K of some really fun miles and the only thing that needed work on the car was some suspension work that dealer handled under warrenty.

14-11-2007, 06:34	#15
MarkyTDI Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aberdeen and Cornwall Posts: 54 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Something fell off today. What is it ? (PIC) I thought that was just a free toy, don't all octavias came with one on the undertray? Mine did!!

17-11-2007, 15:13	#16
mikeo Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 43 Thanks: 7 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Something fell off today. What is it ? (PIC) I did an oil change just now, guess what? Yep, I got a free one as well on top of the bottom plate! Where do I need to look to see if it's a spare or my aircon is fecked as well as my turbo?

18-11-2007, 21:42	#18
mbames Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Weymouth, Dorset Posts: 1,532 Thanks: 0 Thanked 65 Times in 57 Posts	Re: Something fell off today. What is it ? (PIC) Deffo the air con clutch plate... I was looking an mine this morning (but it was still attached to the AC unit....!)

13-02-2008, 11:20	#19
greg123 Briskodian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nottingham, J26 M1 Posts: 364 Thanks: 12 Thanked 29 Times in 27 Posts	Re: Something fell off today. What is it ? (PIC) Common fault, you'll need a new pump as first the nut comes loose, then the plate wobbles on the splines which eventually strips the splines, then it spins on the shaft and the nut falls off & the clutch plate. When you get the new one on, make sure the nut is tight!

14-02-2008, 02:59	#20
SimonS Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Teesside Posts: 70 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Something fell off today. What is it ? (PIC) This happened to me about a year ago. I recognised your pics straight away. I bought a new air con clutch from a guy on ebay (it was brand new) for about £55. Dealer wanted aprox £200! Found an independant garage who were able to fit it in situ (saved re-gassing) for £48. I might still have the part no, if you need it.

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