TT lower control arms

Dan Walton · 02-05-2008, 14:57

Are these the same as the Octavia RS?
I've been advised that the rear bushes on mine are worn and will probably fail the MOT. I'm going to call Skoda and see if this is something that can be done under warranty, if not I've got to foot the bill and may aswell improve them! I've read on other forums that the TT rear bushes are better than the standard RS ones and aslo prefered by many people over poly ones.
The mechanic I would use if I had to pay to get this done said he would just replace the whole arm rather than faffing around cutting the old bush out, as the extra labour cost would more than offset the extra cost of buying the new arms with bushes in place. So if I do go down this route, could I just order up TT lower control arms and fit them?
Ta!

fatty5000 · 02-05-2008, 15:12

Just been looking at this for you and I reckon the bush itself will fit but the arm won't. It looks a little different to me, although I am no expert, I can have abetter look later for you if no one else can verify.

HTH

AwesomeSarah · 02-05-2008, 15:14

Mmm
The TT`s the majority are 4wd
So dont know about that , as these are different
Sarah

fatty5000 · 02-05-2008, 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by AwesomeSarah

Mmm
The TT`s the majority are 4wd
So dont know about that , as these are different
Sarah

There is a 2wd variant though which may use the same wishbone set up as the octy iirc

AwesomeSarah · 02-05-2008, 15:38

Yes , but that is it , the 2wd is the same as the Octy , will be same bushes
1j0 part number?
Same bush?
Sarah

Dan Walton · 02-05-2008, 16:05

Oh, I thought I'd read on here that the bushes at least would fit, I thought I'd erad it on the Seat forums too, maybe it was the UKMKIV's then and they were reffering to 4 Motions?
Although, I might be being stupid, but surely the front end on the cars, 2WD or 4WD can still be the same!?

AwesomeSarah · 02-05-2008, 16:22

Powerflex Uprated Suspension Bushes - car polyurethane suspension bush, bump stops & exhaust mounts. Bushes: wishbone, anti-roll bar mount, track control arm, beam mount, TCA, shocks, dampers, springs
That is the listings for the TT 4wd
The bush is the same for the front wishbone rear bush
So the OEM part numbers will match

so all the TT`s are going to have the same part numer so what bushes are you using?
Sarah

AwesomeSarah · 02-05-2008, 16:24

Ooops
Is it the Defcon ones?
Modshack | Stage 3 Boost Machine
Sarah

Dan Walton · 02-05-2008, 17:27

Umm, nope. I was under the impression the OE TT ones were the ones to go for, and they fit!? Let me see if I can find what I was looking at that made me think all this...

Lummox · 02-05-2008, 17:31

You can fit the TT lower arms but its not a straight fit. The arms are different being forged? maybe but they are a lighter and stronger design. They alse use a different ball joint. They recently fitted a set onto Neil Birketts Golf in Volkswagen Driver magazine, APS did the work.

This combines std TT lower arms, Defcon front bushings and new ball joints. It give a improved cornering ability and allows for camber adjustment on the ball joint.

fatty5000 · 02-05-2008, 18:45

Lummox how about just the bushes in a std octy lower arm

Lummox · 02-05-2008, 18:54

Not sure if they would fit.

But either way I would fit some Poly bushes anyhow if using the std arms.

fatty5000 · 02-05-2008, 19:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lummox

Not sure if they would fit.

But either way I would fit some Poly bushes anyhow if using the std arms.

Which is what I'm doing next job

, just wondering about the TT bushes thats all

Dan Walton · 02-05-2008, 20:18

Front lower arm and rear beam bush how-to [was Colin's big BUSH adventure, in fact still is...] - uk-mkivs

There's talk of fitting them here on MK 4 Golfs.

Dan Walton · 02-05-2008, 20:36

Hmm, it seems the solid bushes from the TT or a Leon will fit in the RS control arm. Is it worth attempting this or just getting new OE lower arms fitted?
From reading a few more old threads in there, Lummox you are correct, the forged lower arms from earlier TTs and LCRs will fit but you need some other parts, does seem to be worthwhile, but at what cost!?

fatty5000 · 02-05-2008, 20:38

Polys are probably the most cost effective route. In theory it should be last time you ever need to change them

Dan Walton · 02-05-2008, 20:51

Not true, apparently. Looking around on UKMKIVs and VW Vortex there are quite a few guys on there with cars that have nastily worn polys on. Apparently they're good for some of the bushings, but not all.

fatty5000 · 02-05-2008, 21:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Walton

Not true, apparently. Looking around on UKMKIVs and VW Vortex there are quite a few guys on there with cars that have nastily worn polys on. Apparently they're good for some of the bushings, but not all.

As I said in theory

Still they should last longer than the VAG alternatives (hopefully)

fatty5000 · 02-05-2008, 21:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Walton

Apparently they're good for some of the bushings, but not all.

Which ones??

Dan Walton · 02-05-2008, 21:30

Umm, I can't remember now! I think they were saying they were good for bushings which are like cotton reel shaped, but not big flat ones... or was it the other way round....

Click on that link I put up and it'll go all over the place with loads of different threads but there's some interesting information to be picked up.

02-05-2008, 14:57	#1
Dan Walton Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Basingstoke Posts: 505 Thanks: 3 Thanked 21 Times in 19 Posts	TT lower control arms Are these the same as the Octavia RS? I've been advised that the rear bushes on mine are worn and will probably fail the MOT. I'm going to call Skoda and see if this is something that can be done under warranty, if not I've got to foot the bill and may aswell improve them! I've read on other forums that the TT rear bushes are better than the standard RS ones and aslo prefered by many people over poly ones. The mechanic I would use if I had to pay to get this done said he would just replace the whole arm rather than faffing around cutting the old bush out, as the extra labour cost would more than offset the extra cost of buying the new arms with bushes in place. So if I do go down this route, could I just order up TT lower control arms and fit them? Ta! __________________ J'ai douze ans!!

02-05-2008, 15:12	#2
fatty5000 Why So Serious Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: "What" ...What ain't no god damn country Posts: 5,134 Thanks: 238 Thanked 167 Times in 151 Posts	Re: TT lower control arms Just been looking at this for you and I reckon the bush itself will fit but the arm won't. It looks a little different to me, although I am no expert, I can have abetter look later for you if no one else can verify. HTH __________________

02-05-2008, 15:14	#3
AwesomeSarah Site Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,716 Thanks: 34 Thanked 166 Times in 147 Posts	Re: TT lower control arms Mmm The TT`s the majority are 4wd So dont know about that , as these are different Sarah

02-05-2008, 15:38	#5
AwesomeSarah Site Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,716 Thanks: 34 Thanked 166 Times in 147 Posts	Re: TT lower control arms Yes , but that is it , the 2wd is the same as the Octy , will be same bushes 1j0 part number? Same bush? Sarah

02-05-2008, 16:05	#6
Dan Walton Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Basingstoke Posts: 505 Thanks: 3 Thanked 21 Times in 19 Posts	Re: TT lower control arms Oh, I thought I'd read on here that the bushes at least would fit, I thought I'd erad it on the Seat forums too, maybe it was the UKMKIV's then and they were reffering to 4 Motions? Although, I might be being stupid, but surely the front end on the cars, 2WD or 4WD can still be the same!? __________________ J'ai douze ans!!

02-05-2008, 16:22	#7
AwesomeSarah Site Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,716 Thanks: 34 Thanked 166 Times in 147 Posts	Re: TT lower control arms Powerflex Uprated Suspension Bushes - car polyurethane suspension bush, bump stops & exhaust mounts. Bushes: wishbone, anti-roll bar mount, track control arm, beam mount, TCA, shocks, dampers, springs That is the listings for the TT 4wd The bush is the same for the front wishbone rear bush So the OEM part numbers will match so all the TT`s are going to have the same part numer so what bushes are you using? Sarah

02-05-2008, 16:24	#8
AwesomeSarah Site Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,716 Thanks: 34 Thanked 166 Times in 147 Posts	Re: TT lower control arms Ooops Is it the Defcon ones? Modshack \| Stage 3 Boost Machine Sarah

02-05-2008, 17:27	#9
Dan Walton Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Basingstoke Posts: 505 Thanks: 3 Thanked 21 Times in 19 Posts	Re: TT lower control arms Umm, nope. I was under the impression the OE TT ones were the ones to go for, and they fit!? Let me see if I can find what I was looking at that made me think all this... __________________ J'ai douze ans!!

02-05-2008, 17:31	#10
Lummox U18 Automotive Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,805 Thanks: 22 Thanked 658 Times in 554 Posts	Re: TT lower control arms You can fit the TT lower arms but its not a straight fit. The arms are different being forged? maybe but they are a lighter and stronger design. They alse use a different ball joint. They recently fitted a set onto Neil Birketts Golf in Volkswagen Driver magazine, APS did the work. This combines std TT lower arms, Defcon front bushings and new ball joints. It give a improved cornering ability and allows for camber adjustment on the ball joint. __________________ Unit 18 Automotive Services now open Servicing, repairs, modifications you name it we do it. Cupra console bushes at special price, PM for a very competitive quote.

02-05-2008, 18:45	#11
fatty5000 Why So Serious Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: "What" ...What ain't no god damn country Posts: 5,134 Thanks: 238 Thanked 167 Times in 151 Posts	Re: TT lower control arms Lummox how about just the bushes in a std octy lower arm __________________

02-05-2008, 18:54	#12
Lummox U18 Automotive Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,805 Thanks: 22 Thanked 658 Times in 554 Posts	Re: TT lower control arms Not sure if they would fit. But either way I would fit some Poly bushes anyhow if using the std arms. __________________ Unit 18 Automotive Services now open Servicing, repairs, modifications you name it we do it. Cupra console bushes at special price, PM for a very competitive quote.

02-05-2008, 20:18	#14
Dan Walton Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Basingstoke Posts: 505 Thanks: 3 Thanked 21 Times in 19 Posts	Re: TT lower control arms Front lower arm and rear beam bush how-to [was Colin's big BUSH adventure, in fact still is...] - uk-mkivs There's talk of fitting them here on MK 4 Golfs. __________________ J'ai douze ans!!

02-05-2008, 20:36	#15
Dan Walton Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Basingstoke Posts: 505 Thanks: 3 Thanked 21 Times in 19 Posts	Re: TT lower control arms Hmm, it seems the solid bushes from the TT or a Leon will fit in the RS control arm. Is it worth attempting this or just getting new OE lower arms fitted? From reading a few more old threads in there, Lummox you are correct, the forged lower arms from earlier TTs and LCRs will fit but you need some other parts, does seem to be worthwhile, but at what cost!? __________________ J'ai douze ans!!

02-05-2008, 20:38	#16
fatty5000 Why So Serious Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: "What" ...What ain't no god damn country Posts: 5,134 Thanks: 238 Thanked 167 Times in 151 Posts	Re: TT lower control arms Polys are probably the most cost effective route. In theory it should be last time you ever need to change them __________________

02-05-2008, 20:51	#17
Dan Walton Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Basingstoke Posts: 505 Thanks: 3 Thanked 21 Times in 19 Posts	Re: TT lower control arms Not true, apparently. Looking around on UKMKIVs and VW Vortex there are quite a few guys on there with cars that have nastily worn polys on. Apparently they're good for some of the bushings, but not all. __________________ J'ai douze ans!!

02-05-2008, 21:30	#20
Dan Walton Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Basingstoke Posts: 505 Thanks: 3 Thanked 21 Times in 19 Posts	Re: TT lower control arms Umm, I can't remember now! I think they were saying they were good for bushings which are like cotton reel shaped, but not big flat ones... or was it the other way round.... Click on that link I put up and it'll go all over the place with loads of different threads but there's some interesting information to be picked up. __________________ J'ai douze ans!!

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