vrs cambelt changed

georgeh · 02-02-2008, 16:05

i fitted a cam belt and water pump on my octavia vrs this morning and it was hell!!! i am a mechanic and have changed many belts including v6 s and this was by far the worst. i had to work around the engine mount as i couldnt get it out no matter what angle the engine was at. is it possible to remove mount or is that how everyone changes belt?

iCraig · 02-02-2008, 16:07

I know this isn't a help but blame Audi. ;-)

They seem to have a habit of making things hard on engines, I remember when I was a trainee mechanic and was trying to locate the thermostat on an A8, **** was that hard!

georgeh · 02-02-2008, 16:13

my temp gauge is a bit crazy goin up and down and working when it wants. iv been told on a previos post that its the temp sender. were abouts is this positioned presumably on the stat housing but if someone no s it will save me proving around looking thanks

fordfan · 02-02-2008, 16:25

The mount does not come off and you have to work around it. Temp sender is on the left of the engine (passenger side), it has a 4 wire connection.

kenny rsell · 02-02-2008, 16:29

You have to remove both engine and gear box mounts and support engine gearbox on two jacks,which allows you to push the engine across to gain access.

jskelton555 · 03-02-2008, 18:45

Temp sender is inline on a hose above gearbox, flick the clip off when its cold and pull sender out. don't forget to replace seal with sender. 10 minutes work at the most!new ones are green if i remember right

jskelton555 · 03-02-2008, 18:48

sender is inline on a hose above gearbox, retained by a clip.don't forget to replace seal as well.New senders are green if i remember right. 10 minutes work at the most on a cold engine and only a little fluid loss if you leave cap on.

NigelR32 · 04-02-2008, 16:52

I have just done my VRS cambelt, as the waterpump went. I can agree that this is a pig of a job. the mount does not come out, no matter what position the engine is in!! It took five hours to do in total, plus a series of cuts to both hands.

I was amazed that the plastic pump impeller was broken into five pieces after only 23,500 miles!!

Regards

scotlad · 04-02-2008, 17:12

Hi folks

I did my water pump/ cambelt last week and i assure you the engine mount does come out! As Krussell points out, the gearbox side engine mount has to be removed and then the engine jacked up at the belt side and pushed over a bit. This allows the mount to be removed from the car completely, allowing much better access to oil-filled tensioner etc. Its worth the extra 10 minutes work to do it this way!!!! Oh and incidently my plastic water pump impellor was coming apart

That was at 55k miles so watch out folks. Now replaced with a brass impellored QH Job

georgeh · 04-02-2008, 18:25

yes i was surprised at the state of water pump. im glad the dealer i got parts from recommended one cause i wouldnt have wanted 2 take belt off again!!! and nigel, took me about 5 hours and hat cuts 2 hand!! so i can sympathize there. wont trust haynes manual again it said mount comes out if you lower engine on the osf. if do one again will do as people have said on here and remove all mounts

stuball · 04-02-2008, 18:37

I have changed many 20v turbo cam belts and water pumps.
There is a a nack of removing the mounting block, it take two of u to do it mind...
you need the dog bone gearbox mounting off and the engine jacked up.
its tight as a nuns, but it comes out and back in. Needs the right angle tho.

NigelR32 · 04-02-2008, 20:53

I reckon it would be less time consuming and painful to just take the whole bl00dy lot out and work on the bench..LOL!!!

Regards

***DGW*** · 04-02-2008, 20:58

This is where the dual temperature sender is located:

biomulv · 04-02-2008, 21:33

Makes you realise that the £250 inc parts to have the belt and pump is a bargain.

02-02-2008, 16:05	#1
georgeh Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: coalville , leicestershire Posts: 14 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	vrs cambelt changed i fitted a cam belt and water pump on my octavia vrs this morning and it was hell!!! i am a mechanic and have changed many belts including v6 s and this was by far the worst. i had to work around the engine mount as i couldnt get it out no matter what angle the engine was at. is it possible to remove mount or is that how everyone changes belt?

02-02-2008, 16:07	#2
iCraig Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Irlam, Manchester Posts: 208 Thanks: 20 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Re: vrs cambelt changed I know this isn't a help but blame Audi. ;-) They seem to have a habit of making things hard on engines, I remember when I was a trainee mechanic and was trying to locate the thermostat on an A8, ** was that hard! __________________ 1997 Škoda Felicia 1.3LXi -> 1999 Škoda Octavia 1.6LXi -> Wants a Fabia** for his next car!

02-02-2008, 16:13	#3
georgeh Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: coalville , leicestershire Posts: 14 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: vrs cambelt changed my temp gauge is a bit crazy goin up and down and working when it wants. iv been told on a previos post that its the temp sender. were abouts is this positioned presumably on the stat housing but if someone no s it will save me proving around looking thanks

02-02-2008, 16:25	#4
fordfan ECUless Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,957 Thanks: 30 Thanked 225 Times in 196 Posts	Re: vrs cambelt changed The mount does not come off and you have to work around it. Temp sender is on the left of the engine (passenger side), it has a 4 wire connection.

02-02-2008, 16:29	#5
kenny rsell Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: East Lothian Posts: 413 Thanks: 18 Thanked 31 Times in 28 Posts	Re: vrs cambelt changed You have to remove both engine and gear box mounts and support engine gearbox on two jacks,which allows you to push the engine across to gain access. __________________ Diamond silver octavia vRS,xenons,Jetex downpipe with sports cat,Jetex cat back system,Green panel filter,Forge i pro remap,Forge 007 dv,Milotec bumper grills,TT arch vent mod.

03-02-2008, 18:45	#6
jskelton555 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: staffordshire Posts: 32 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: vrs cambelt changed Temp sender is inline on a hose above gearbox, flick the clip off when its cold and pull sender out. don't forget to replace seal with sender. 10 minutes work at the most!new ones are green if i remember right

03-02-2008, 18:48	#7
jskelton555 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: staffordshire Posts: 32 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: vrs cambelt changed sender is inline on a hose above gearbox, retained by a clip.don't forget to replace seal as well.New senders are green if i remember right. 10 minutes work at the most on a cold engine and only a little fluid loss if you leave cap on.

04-02-2008, 16:52	#8
NigelR32 Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: vrs cambelt changed I have just done my VRS cambelt, as the waterpump went. I can agree that this is a pig of a job. the mount does not come out, no matter what position the engine is in!! It took five hours to do in total, plus a series of cuts to both hands. I was amazed that the plastic pump impeller was broken into five pieces after only 23,500 miles!! Regards __________________ Nigel --------- 03' Octavia VRS

04-02-2008, 17:12	#9
scotlad Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: East Lothian Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: vrs cambelt changed Hi folks I did my water pump/ cambelt last week and i assure you the engine mount does come out! As Krussell points out, the gearbox side engine mount has to be removed and then the engine jacked up at the belt side and pushed over a bit. This allows the mount to be removed from the car completely, allowing much better access to oil-filled tensioner etc. Its worth the extra 10 minutes work to do it this way!!!! Oh and incidently my plastic water pump impellor was coming apart That was at 55k miles so watch out folks. Now replaced with a brass impellored QH Job

04-02-2008, 18:25	#10
georgeh Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: coalville , leicestershire Posts: 14 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: vrs cambelt changed yes i was surprised at the state of water pump. im glad the dealer i got parts from recommended one cause i wouldnt have wanted 2 take belt off again!!! and nigel, took me about 5 hours and hat cuts 2 hand!! so i can sympathize there. wont trust haynes manual again it said mount comes out if you lower engine on the osf. if do one again will do as people have said on here and remove all mounts

04-02-2008, 18:37	#11
stuball Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Midlands Posts: 60 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: vrs cambelt changed I have changed many 20v turbo cam belts and water pumps. There is a a nack of removing the mounting block, it take two of u to do it mind... you need the dog bone gearbox mounting off and the engine jacked up. its tight as a nuns, but it comes out and back in. Needs the right angle tho. __________________ 5tu! 2006 Fabia vRS Black Magic, Xenons and C/control. PD160 intake, Cupra R console bushes 1999 Felicia Pickup Romantic Red,

04-02-2008, 20:53	#12
NigelR32 Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: vrs cambelt changed I reckon it would be less time consuming and painful to just take the whole bl00dy lot out and work on the bench..LOL!!! Regards __________________ Nigel --------- 03' Octavia VRS

04-02-2008, 20:58	#13
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,139 Thanks: 49 Thanked 174 Times in 131 Posts	Re: vrs cambelt changed This is where the dual temperature sender is located: __________________ Denis 2002 Octavia 1.8T 4X4 turbo Estate - rebreathed on by Jabba ... 31.93mpg 2007 Fabia vRS - CC, ESP and full leather trim by Seat Surgeons ...48.09 mpg...

04-02-2008, 21:33	#14
biomulv Too Many Organs Join Date: May 2006 Location: Port Seton Posts: 444 Thanks: 8 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: vrs cambelt changed Makes you realise that the £250 inc parts to have the belt and pump is a bargain. __________________ Work - 2008 VW Golf Estate 1.9tdi SE spec with bluetooth and park sensors Wifes Runabout - 2005 Red Fabia vRS Wifes Old Runabout - 2003 Black Octavia vRS on 18" RS6's

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