VRS vs UK scooby/evo

[k04]

But saying that theres a few octys on here pushing over 300bhp,im sure they might have some stories to tell

[jonnycatbiscuit]

Originally Posted by andypandypoos

but to be fair you drive slow sedately you were never gonna have him...you never had your car...granny shiftin' not double clutchin' like you should...

in your signature, do you mean "como estas, putas?"

[k04]

looking forward to the 4th instalment starring paul walker and vin diesel!

[V666 VRS]

Originally Posted by k04

But saying that theres a few octys on here pushing over 300bhp,im sure they might have some stories to tell

Problem is that with the standard turbo the EVO can still achieve 350bhp and similar torque from a remap and the typical exhaust and decat. The Octavia vRS is a nice car to shuttle the kids round in (i did for a year) But if you want a fast car then buy one to start with.

Darren

[k04]

I nearly got myself a scooby before i got my vrs,but im glad i didnt

Quick cars they may be but iv not regreted buying the octy one little bit,iv got two little kids so needed a car which was practicul,had 4 doors,a big boot,and can also be fun to drive when your on your own.

I wouldn't give it up for anything ,in fact i love it and i would defiantly buy another skoda..oh yes indeedy!!!

[tattoo_stew69]

luckly i have had the pleasure of being the owner of a scooby wrx and a evo 1 and both as standard would have pissed on the vrs, sorry but in a straight line and round the bends, but so far i have really enjoyed having the vrs, plenty of power with nowhere near the hassle i.e.
fuel
parts
upgrading
labour costs
and insurance
dont get me wrong i have really enjoyed both cars but at the end of the day they are all money pits and it all depends on what type of car you are after, like a every day driver or a weekend blaster, the vrs has been the best all round car i have owned to date, fast,reliable and a great family car.
im slightly drunk so im off to bed so i am nice and fresh for work 2morrow

[ncarring]

Try a search, been covered many times before.

You will lose, unless there is a huge talent gap in your favour.

[bengie]

obviously running 300bhp+in an octavia against a standard wrx/sti/evo is different but i did say earlier on your going to need a bigger turbo etc to do it

still, 300bhp isn't enough for a real man

[Liverpool-Lad]

You may beat one of the low powered Imprezas on the move due to 4wd losses - were the early UK ones something like 200bhp?

[bengie]

an early turbo 2000 is "only" 214bhp(about what a remapped octavia actually gets rather than the inflated figures taht some quote) but they still do 0-60 in about 6 seconds so will definitly stand a better chance against one but whilst they have greater loses than an octavia they are lighter with shorter gearing so who knows really.

[redbaron]

Originally Posted by ncarring

Try a search, been covered many times before.

You will lose, unless there is a huge talent gap in your favour.

funny how there were some mk1's out there that regularly took em like kings.

[andypandypoos]

Originally Posted by jonnycatbiscuit

in your signature, do you mean "como estas, putas?"

I don't think so, but my mate had been living here for about 6 years before moving back to his native Spain so maybe his Spanish was a little rusty...

[Rich.H]

My Octy VRS Mk 1 was running 202bhp at the wheels (est at 250 crank) with 266 ft/lb of torque at 3000 rpm (std it was 165) its the torque that gets em! lol. Absolutely nailed STi's they didnt have a hope, nailed evo 6's inc the Tommy Mackinen that my m8 has. Put to shame a 'done up' evo 6 at the local cruise who's driver immediately claimed it wasnt boosting right and he had a flat tyre! lol. The VRs may not have the 'Kudos' of the Evo or Subaru, however you cant beat the feeling you get from nailing them in a skoda! i reckon the 4x4 drivetrain bleeds away about 80bhp, the two wheel drive takes about 50bhp (my 180bhp VRS was achieving 140 at the wheels with TIP, De-cat, Miltek, K&N 57i, Bailey DV, so i reckon that lot must have added 10bhp hence the 50bhp loss). Place that remapped mine put it on their web site as car of the month they were so impressed with the performance gains!

[Rich.H]

Another thing to consider is that if you go up against a Scooby just keep going cos you know the scooby's crank will self destruct after 10 minutes hard thrash! lol, no such probs with the VAG engine! Yet!!!

[bengie]

what a load of tosh, no way your killing a properly driven sti and also your car wasn't 250bhp as the losses aren't 50bhp on a FWD octavia, even then losing 50bhp from a 250bhp car Vs losing 80bhp from a 270bhp with shorter gearing would not conclude in you "nailing" him

leave your racing for tracks and strips so that everyone knows whats going on will you.

[andypandypoos]

Originally Posted by bengie

what a load of tosh, no way your killing a properly driven sti and also your car wasn't 250bhp as the losses aren't 50bhp on a FWD octavia, even then losing 50bhp from a 250bhp car Vs losing 80bhp from a 270bhp with shorter gearing would not conclude in you "nailing" him

leave your racing for tracks and strips so that everyone knows whats going on will you.

but if a mk2 with a remap and some bolt-ons has the measure of a 350bhp(?) Evo VII why so sceptical about a mk1 with a remap besting an STI

[redbaron]

cos it takes a hell of a lot more than a remap to best an STi or an Evo... not impossible ... but not with just a remap.

[V666 VRS]

I cant believe this "can a vRS beat an EVO" is still going on. Without doubt, the octavia vrs stands no chance in any circumstance. YES people like Declac or Stevie (deep pockets) wonder have spend 10s of thousands on there front wheel drive Octy vRS. But the thing is, they still dont have the basic Rally car derived chassis AND engine. Pllleeeaaase, if you want a fast car then please just buy one from the box. Then you can buy a remap and make it a little bit quicker

Darren

[redbaron]

Originally Posted by V666 VRS

I cant believe this "can a vRS beat an EVO" is still going on. Without doubt, the octavia vrs stands no chance in any circumstance. YES people like Declac or Stevie (deep pockets) Blunder have spend 10s of thousands on there front wheel drive Octy vRS. But the thing is, they still dont have the basic Rally car derived chassis AND engine. Pllleeeaaase, if you want a fast car then please just buy one from the box. Then you can buy a remap and make it a little bit quicker

Darren

Your selling your octavia to buy an evo.... so you keep spouting the rhetoric.. you will fit in on the MLR perfectly. make sure you say hi to all the evo joy boys that have been mullered by vRS's on track days.

obviously you are a much more of an expert than anyone on briskoda so whilst you are spouting would you care to explain why

Originally Posted by V666 VRS

Without doubt, the octavia vrs stands no chance in any circumstance.

when quite clearly this is completely and totally wrong and has been proved so in a number of circumstances already.

[corradoboy]

Before I got a Furby vRS I had an Impreza WRX, and trust me, you'd be left wondering where I went on any challenging road in the country. Lots of people spouting power figures, but my car was standard apart from the PPP (Prodrive Performance Pack) which took it from 220 to 260bhp, 4.8 seconds and 155mph. The critical mods for road driving are chassis and suspension mods, click and read mine. The RE070 tyres alone added 30mph to my cornering speeds, let alone the 12 point adjustable coilovers and other stuff. With corner entry speeds in excess of 3 figures you really would not stand a cats. Concerns over the standard Subaru 4 pot brakes aren't valid as I don't use brakes except in emergencies, prefering to drive Roadcraft, keeping balanced and fluid. And stories of weak cranks and chocolate pistons are old wives tales. In 60k miles my car needed 2 exhaust sensors and a wheel bearing, seeing a main dealer once in 3 years except servicing. Both our Skodas (Fabia vRS and Octy 2) have been back over 5 times in 18 months. If you've not driven one, extensively, getting used to its capabilities then you can't fully understand how good they are. Razzing around an industrial estate against some kid who doesn't know his bigend from his bellend is no way to compare and appreciate the differences between the two cars, you have to drive them, and in as many circumstances as possible. Some have commented on drivetrain losses, which can be a factor in some circumstances, but FWD is a factor too in many circumstances. Follow me over Strines Moor in South Yorkshire in a FWD car and I'll either order your pint as I'm downing my second at The Ladybower Inn, or order you an ambulance. Sit side-by-side on a dual carriageway with no corners to worry about and you'll keep up, but I'd fall asleep on such boring roads.

Originally Posted by K04

needed a car which was practicul,had 4 doors,a big boot,and can also be fun to drive when your on your own[/quote

Errm, aren't Scoobs practical, 4 door, reasonably large booted and a great deal of fun on your own. There's always wagon's (Scooby estates) too. If you want really practical, look at the Forester. I'd love a 330bhp Forester STi with suspension mods