Warning bell on VRS

Burnsy · 19-08-2005, 11:24

Hi all

Just bought a Black Octavia VRS and im well pleased with it.I had a Mk 3 VR6 before so was used to a car with power but this seems so much more responsive and id say quicker.
Just got a couple of questions though :-
1. When starting the car up i get a warning chime which repeats 5-6 times.Is this just to warn you about putting on ya seat belt as the seat belt symbol flashes in correspondance to it
2. What does the SR button actually do.I know its something to do with wheel spin but why can you turn it on or off.And if i press it so the light comes on is it off ?.
Thanks for ya time guys and gals
No doubt youll be hearing from me again.
Hey admins your doing a nice job by the way

Manguish · 19-08-2005, 11:46

Warning chime is seatbelt alarm.

ASR is for stability - stops you spinning wheels mid corner etc.... Light ON on the dash is OFF (disabled).

Turn it off when pushing on.

SkodiRS · 19-08-2005, 11:50

When turning off the ASR make sure you do it when you're at a stand still. Apparently if you do this whilst moving it doesn't fully disable.

Fabia 12v · 19-08-2005, 11:52

If you put your searbelt on before doing the ignition you wont get the chimes.They cut out as soon as belt is in.

As mentioned above... if light for ASR is ON on the dashboard that means the system is switched off. It resets to system on at every startup. Unless ur mucking round with car m8... wouldn't turn it off its safer with it on.

lozgti · 19-08-2005, 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burnsy

Hi all

Just bought a Black Octavia VRS and im well pleased with it.I had a Mk 3 VR6 before so was used to a car with power but this seems so much more responsive and id say quicker.

Thats good to hear.What bhp was the VR6?

I thought ASR just dealt with wheelspin from standing starts etc.

Thought ESP engaged all the trickery round bends etc?

SkodiRS · 19-08-2005, 12:12

IIRC ASR works upto 25mph.....I generally turned mine off for specific junctions....it's a real PITA to shoot out of a junction only to have the power killed with a vehicle bearing down on you.

There is also a train of thought that the car responds better with the ASR off.

Burnsy · 19-08-2005, 12:32

Thnxs for the replys guys much appreciated
The Vr6 was 174BHP by the way and the only thing i miss from it is the sound of it when you booted it

Gizmo68 · 20-08-2005, 08:13

The seatbelt chime can also be bypassed:
Simply unplug the wire under the drivers seat (the one that goe to the seatbelt buckle) and cable tie it out of the way.
I did mine just after i bought the car (18 months ago) no problems and went straight through the MOT.

dstev2000 · 20-08-2005, 16:40

doesnt ASR stand for Anti Slip Regulation or something? all it seems to do is kill the power when you pull away from junctions in the wet in an attempt to stop wheelspin, great when theres a HOOOOOGE lorry bearing down on you

. Doesnt do any magic in bends or owt, thats DSP (Dynamic Stability Programme).

Great tip for the seatbelt chime BTW, going to do that in a minute

devonutopia · 20-08-2005, 17:00

No reason to not wear the seatbelt of course.

Good tip though. Is this on the vRS fabias as well? I've not seen any spare wiring to go to the seat buckle/s?

dstev2000 · 20-08-2005, 17:26

Putting a seatbelt on is second nature and I've never needed an irritating noise to tell me to put it on, my bother has an avensis and the seatbelt warning gets louder if you ignore it (now disconnected)

Gizmo68 · 20-08-2005, 17:29

IIRC the wiring on the Octavia was under the drivers seat, on the tunnel side near the front, but it isnt obvious where it goes, just trace the wire back to the buckle (make sure you dont disconnect the airbag plug by mistake - if fitted)
I also ALWAYS wear my belt, but the chimes were so annoying!!

johnjohnhealy · 21-08-2005, 05:41

Do yours constantly chime then if your not wearing a seatbelt?
My superb only chimes 6 times then stops so I dont understand how it can be that annoying

Also I'd be VERY carefull about disconecting the wire to the seatbelt buckle, I dont know for sure about Skodas but certainly on some other cars if the computer thinks a seatbelt is not being worn the airbags and pre-tensioners will NOT activate in the event of an accident

Also if your insurance company discovered this in the aftermath of an accident you can bet your life you'd be saying goodbye to any kind of payout whatsoever, your fault or not!!

Anyone know for sure if disconecting the wire affects the vehicles other systems??

Lummox · 21-08-2005, 08:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnjohnhealy

Also I'd be VERY carefull about disconecting the wire to the seatbelt buckle, I dont know for sure about Skodas but certainly on some other cars if the computer thinks a seatbelt is not being worn the airbags and pre-tensioners will NOT activate in the event of an accident

Im pretty sure that is not the case on Skodas. I dont think the passenger seat belt buckle has a sensor on it so how does the passeneger airbag work.

Will try and get an offical word on it though.

Martin Keene · 21-08-2005, 10:44

Passegner side doesn't have a sensor, I've been looking at mine trying to see if I could stop it as well. Also, I can't see it having an affect on pre-tensioners or airbags, because if you ignore it the light and the bussing stop, even if you don't put plug the seat belt in.

I tested in on a private road, because I couldn't work out what the buzzer was for. Incidentally, if you put the seat belt on before switching on it doesn't beep.

dstev2000 · 22-08-2005, 10:03

The seatbelt is the last thing I do before pulling off and its so habitual i wont change

johnjohnhealy · 22-08-2005, 17:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkodiRS

IIRC ASR works upto 25mph.....I generally turned mine off for specific junctions....it's a real PITA to shoot out of a junction only to have the power killed with a vehicle bearing down on you.

I'm probably about to open a huge can of worms, and I'm really not getting at anyone in particular but -

Why do people think they can out drive the abilities of their car by switching off the ESP/ASR/TRC etc?

If you experience a loss of power while pulling out of a junction in the wet (or any time) with your TRC switched on it is because you are applying too much power for the conditions and spinning the wheels, the trc system will then brake the spinning wheel and reduce the engines power in order to re-gain traction with the roads surface (the most important ingredient when trying to pull away quickly) and then re-apply the power progressively so you can pull away as fast as the conditions will possibly allow.

If you had the TRC switched off in the same situation you would have been spinning the wheels away going nowhere fast. - 'Ah but I would have lifted off then re-applied the power progressively myself' I hear you say!! - What, as quickly as a computer that is monitoring things hundreds of times a second and re-acts within a split second to correct your mistakes??

Traction control was good enough for F1 cars being driven by people with far better reactions and far more driving skill than any of us, if its good enough for them then why do we expect to be able to out perform our systems?
Even though traction control itself has been banned from F1 they are still using similar measures to cut engine power in specific situations, they just aren't connected to wheel sensors anymore so thay can get round the rules!!

Anyway, rant over - really wasn't getting at anyone in particular just bugs thats all.

maclee · 12-02-2006, 00:35

Seat belt warning.

I have a 2004 Octavia and have grown utterly sick & tired of that damned noise as soon as I switch on the ignition. I asked my dealer to disable it, but they failed. When I asked them again they aparently consulted SkodaTechnical, who searched the 'knowledge base' but failed to find a solution.

It's a pity they did not seach the seat base instead because they could have then done the job properly.

If you look at the seat belt stalk on the driver's side you will notice a thin wire running down it. this is the wire from the sensor in the latch.

It runs under the seat to a two pin connector on a plastic carrier under the front of the seat. Once you have found this connector, unplug it and the system will think the seat belt is latched and will not chime at you any more.

Even if it was the case that the airbag and pretensioner were to be disabled if the seat belt was thought by the system to not be fastened it would have no adverse effect here since you are fooling it into thinking the belt is already fastened.

Hope that is of help to someone.

Lee

19-08-2005, 11:24	#1
Burnsy Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester UK Posts: 48 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Warning bell on VRS Hi all Just bought a Black Octavia VRS and im well pleased with it.I had a Mk 3 VR6 before so was used to a car with power but this seems so much more responsive and id say quicker. Just got a couple of questions though :- 1. When starting the car up i get a warning chime which repeats 5-6 times.Is this just to warn you about putting on ya seat belt as the seat belt symbol flashes in correspondance to it 2. What does the SR button actually do.I know its something to do with wheel spin but why can you turn it on or off.And if i press it so the light comes on is it off ?. Thanks for ya time guys and gals No doubt youll be hearing from me again. Hey admins your doing a nice job by the way

19-08-2005, 11:50	#3
SkodiRS BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: darkest Hampshire Posts: 8,650 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts	When turning off the ASR make sure you do it when you're at a stand still. Apparently if you do this whilst moving it doesn't fully disable. __________________ Adrian.

19-08-2005, 11:52	#4
Fabia 12v RICHARD Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Twickenham - Middlesex Posts: 4,935 Thanks: 6 Thanked 17 Times in 15 Posts	If you put your searbelt on before doing the ignition you wont get the chimes.They cut out as soon as belt is in. As mentioned above... if light for ASR is ON on the dashboard that means the system is switched off. It resets to system on at every startup. Unless ur mucking round with car m8... wouldn't turn it off its safer with it on. __________________ First Car: Skoda Fabia MK1 1.2 12v Comfort Replaced with: Volkswagen Golf MK4 GT 1.9TDI Replaced with: Seat Ibiza MK4 Sport 1.9TDI Replaced with: Volkswagen Polo MK5 Ltd. Edition Sport 1.4 16v To be replaced with: Volkswagen Golf Mk5 Final Edition GTI 2.0TFSI 16v... early 2009.

19-08-2005, 12:12	#6
SkodiRS BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: darkest Hampshire Posts: 8,650 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts	IIRC ASR works upto 25mph.....I generally turned mine off for specific junctions....it's a real PITA to shoot out of a junction only to have the power killed with a vehicle bearing down on you. There is also a train of thought that the car responds better with the ASR off. __________________ Adrian.

20-08-2005, 16:40	#9
dstev2000 Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Back in the Green Posts: 3,842 Thanks: 38 Thanked 152 Times in 138 Posts	doesnt ASR stand for Anti Slip Regulation or something? all it seems to do is kill the power when you pull away from junctions in the wet in an attempt to stop wheelspin, great when theres a HOOOOOGE lorry bearing down on you . Doesnt do any magic in bends or owt, thats DSP (Dynamic Stability Programme). Great tip for the seatbelt chime BTW, going to do that in a minute __________________ MY08 L&K: Black-Estate-Diesel-Sunset Glass-MFD2-W8 Interior light-Colour coded door strips-LED sidelights and Puddle lights-VAG-COM fettled-Lovely! SWMBO's: MY08 vRS TDI - Standard Last edited by dstev2000; 20-08-2005 at 16:43.

19-08-2005, 11:46	#2
Manguish Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Newcastle Posts: 925 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Warning chime is seatbelt alarm. ASR is for stability - stops you spinning wheels mid corner etc.... Light ON on the dash is OFF (disabled). Turn it off when pushing on.

19-08-2005, 12:32	#7
Burnsy Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester UK Posts: 48 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thnxs for the replys guys much appreciated The Vr6 was 174BHP by the way and the only thing i miss from it is the sound of it when you booted it

20-08-2005, 08:13	#8
Gizmo68 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hawkinge Kent Posts: 1,223 Thanks: 12 Thanked 67 Times in 64 Posts	The seatbelt chime can also be bypassed: Simply unplug the wire under the drivers seat (the one that goe to the seatbelt buckle) and cable tie it out of the way. I did mine just after i bought the car (18 months ago) no problems and went straight through the MOT.

20-08-2005, 17:00	#10
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ooo-ar, Oi be from Devonshire Posts: 29,506 Thanks: 60 Thanked 308 Times in 253 Posts	No reason to not wear the seatbelt of course. Good tip though. Is this on the vRS fabias as well? I've not seen any spare wiring to go to the seat buckle/s? __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

20-08-2005, 17:26	#11
dstev2000 Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Back in the Green Posts: 3,842 Thanks: 38 Thanked 152 Times in 138 Posts	Putting a seatbelt on is second nature and I've never needed an irritating noise to tell me to put it on, my bother has an avensis and the seatbelt warning gets louder if you ignore it (now disconnected) __________________ MY08 L&K: Black-Estate-Diesel-Sunset Glass-MFD2-W8 Interior light-Colour coded door strips-LED sidelights and Puddle lights-VAG-COM fettled-Lovely! SWMBO's: MY08 vRS TDI - Standard

20-08-2005, 17:29	#12
Gizmo68 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hawkinge Kent Posts: 1,223 Thanks: 12 Thanked 67 Times in 64 Posts	IIRC the wiring on the Octavia was under the drivers seat, on the tunnel side near the front, but it isnt obvious where it goes, just trace the wire back to the buckle (make sure you dont disconnect the airbag plug by mistake - if fitted) I also ALWAYS wear my belt, but the chimes were so annoying!!

21-08-2005, 05:41	#13
johnjohnhealy Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK south east Posts: 2,431 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	Do yours constantly chime then if your not wearing a seatbelt? My superb only chimes 6 times then stops so I dont understand how it can be that annoying Also I'd be VERY carefull about disconecting the wire to the seatbelt buckle, I dont know for sure about Skodas but certainly on some other cars if the computer thinks a seatbelt is not being worn the airbags and pre-tensioners will NOT activate in the event of an accident Also if your insurance company discovered this in the aftermath of an accident you can bet your life you'd be saying goodbye to any kind of payout whatsoever, your fault or not!! Anyone know for sure if disconecting the wire affects the vehicles other systems??

21-08-2005, 10:44	#15
Martin Keene Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Peterborough Posts: 202 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Passegner side doesn't have a sensor, I've been looking at mine trying to see if I could stop it as well. Also, I can't see it having an affect on pre-tensioners or airbags, because if you ignore it the light and the bussing stop, even if you don't put plug the seat belt in. I tested in on a private road, because I couldn't work out what the buzzer was for. Incidentally, if you put the seat belt on before switching on it doesn't beep.

22-08-2005, 10:03	#16
dstev2000 Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Back in the Green Posts: 3,842 Thanks: 38 Thanked 152 Times in 138 Posts	The seatbelt is the last thing I do before pulling off and its so habitual i wont change __________________ MY08 L&K: Black-Estate-Diesel-Sunset Glass-MFD2-W8 Interior light-Colour coded door strips-LED sidelights and Puddle lights-VAG-COM fettled-Lovely! SWMBO's: MY08 vRS TDI - Standard

12-02-2006, 00:35	#18
maclee Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: East Anglia Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Warning bell on VRS Seat belt warning. I have a 2004 Octavia and have grown utterly sick & tired of that damned noise as soon as I switch on the ignition. I asked my dealer to disable it, but they failed. When I asked them again they aparently consulted SkodaTechnical, who searched the 'knowledge base' but failed to find a solution. It's a pity they did not seach the seat base instead because they could have then done the job properly. If you look at the seat belt stalk on the driver's side you will notice a thin wire running down it. this is the wire from the sensor in the latch. It runs under the seat to a two pin connector on a plastic carrier under the front of the seat. Once you have found this connector, unplug it and the system will think the seat belt is latched and will not chime at you any more. Even if it was the case that the airbag and pretensioner were to be disabled if the seat belt was thought by the system to not be fastened it would have no adverse effect here since you are fooling it into thinking the belt is already fastened. Hope that is of help to someone. Lee

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