Brand New VRS Engine Mounts snapped

Sam VRS · 15-05-2008, 21:47

Bad news

Driving along today in my brand new VRS which I picked up on March 1st and I heard a very loud snap.

It appears one of the engine mount bolts was missing and the other one loosened under the pressure and then snapped and the engine dropped and crushed my aircon pipe and damaged my exhast and gear box!

Have done 7000 miles and driven it fairly hard some of the time, but alot of the time have been on the motorway driving fairly sensibly.

As you can imagine I am gutted, as anyone else heard of this happening?

Before this happened I thought my car was bullet proof!

Cheers

Sam

**VRStu** · 15-05-2008, 21:48

Not good news that. There was another story on broken engine mounts you might find if you search.

Lummox · 15-05-2008, 21:50

Which engine? Diesel by chance?

Dor · 15-05-2008, 21:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lummox

Which engine? Diesel by chance?

Uh Oh.....is this getting a bit to regular?

Sam VRS · 15-05-2008, 21:57

Yeah it is the 170BHP Diesel, why do you mention Diesel, is there a problem your aware of?

Lummox · 15-05-2008, 21:59

If its a diesel then i've seen a few. For some reason on the latter BKP and BMR engines in the Passat they have a new type of engine mounting. Where the old one bolted to the block with three bolts then new type uses two fastened to the block and one to a revised bracket at the front of the engine that supports the alternator/ac compressor etc. This bracket is aluminium and just breaks up leaving the remaining two bolts to cope, which they dont.

Harry_vRS · 15-05-2008, 22:02

Another reason to buy the TFSI over the Diesel.

Sam VRS · 15-05-2008, 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lummox

If its a diesel then i've seen a few. For some reason on the latter BKP and BMR engines in the Passat they have a new type of engine mounting. Where the old one bolted to the block with three bolts then new type uses two fastened to the block and one to a revised bracket at the front of the engine that supports the alternator/ac compressor etc. This bracket is aluminium and just breaks up leaving the remaining two bolts to cope, which they dont.

My VRS is an 08 plate, so would I be right in assuming I have the new mounting?

It appears one of the engine mount bolts was missing?

djgritt · 15-05-2008, 22:41

Mine did similar - sounds like yours got away lightly in comparison...

Mine snapped a Mount bolt, causing the second bolt to come loose, and the engine dropped off the mount and it lunched the cambelt and a tensioner - resulting in engine loss

Thread for mine here

http://briskoda.net/forums/octavia-i...se-read/81579/

Use it to help yourself out with fighting your corner for the Warranty etc if needs be - i don't mind, wouldn't wish anyone else to go through the grief i did...

daiking · 15-05-2008, 22:47

Won't they issue a recall for this? Sounds pretty serious.

I know Mazda issued a recall on engine mount bolts for the 3MPS early on: Recall Details for MAZDA - MAZDA 3 MPS

Jules59 · 15-05-2008, 23:27

My TDI VRS was new in March. Ok so far.
Is it possible to view the bracket easily and check its condition. ?

rsbspt · 16-05-2008, 08:32

This clearly has serious safety implications. The thought of a failure at M'way speeds doesn't bear thinking about! For the sake of the rest of us, can I encourage those who've suffered this failure to make an incident report to:

Vehicle & Operator Services Agency
Vehicle Safety Branch
Room 101
Berkeley House
Croydon Street
BRISTOL
BS5 0DA

Tel: 0117 954 3300

They will investigate and if it is a significant problem they have powers to insist on a recall. Without this, I suspect VAG will try to keep it under wraps...

motr · 16-05-2008, 08:41

You should push for a brand new car as this one obviously sounds as if it wasn't fit for purpose.

Oh, and contact Watchdog!!

djgritt · 16-05-2008, 09:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsbspt

Without this, I suspect VAG will try to keep it under wraps...

Damn Right - they did with mine...

G.K. · 16-05-2008, 09:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lummox

If its a diesel then i've seen a few. For some reason on the latter BKP and BMR engines in the Passat they have a new type of engine mounting. Where the old one bolted to the block with three bolts then new type uses two fastened to the block and one to a revised bracket at the front of the engine that supports the alternator/ac compressor etc. This bracket is aluminium and just breaks up leaving the remaining two bolts to cope, which they dont.

Are these mounts the same in all the 2.0tdi engines or only in the VRS 170tdi?

Sam VRS · 16-05-2008, 09:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsbspt

This clearly has serious safety implications. The thought of a failure at M'way speeds doesn't bear thinking about! For the sake of the rest of us, can I encourage those who've suffered this failure to make an incident report to:

Vehicle & Operator Services Agency
Vehicle Safety Branch
Room 101
Berkeley House
Croydon Street
BRISTOL
BS5 0DA

Tel: 0117 954 3300

They will investigate and if it is a significant problem they have powers to insist on a recall. Without this, I suspect VAG will try to keep it under wraps...

Just put a call into them and they are looking into this

Cheers

Sam

Dor · 16-05-2008, 11:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jules59

My TDI VRS was new in March. Ok so far.
Is it possible to view the bracket easily and check its condition. ?

Seconded, anyone?

Chris

skomaz · 16-05-2008, 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.K.

Are these mounts the same in all the 2.0tdi engines or only in the VRS 170tdi?

You took the words out of my mouth...

mattbeef · 16-05-2008, 12:26

More importantly do you know if they use the same mounts in other cars ie Golf, A3 Leon etc

If its the same mounts across the range then there will be more weight to the argument

bahnstormer vrs · 16-05-2008, 15:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jules59

My TDI VRS was new in March. Ok so far.
Is it possible to view the bracket easily and check its condition. ?

Description or pics anyone? I'd like to check mine out at the weekend.

Although now over a year old and with 19,000 miles I would have thought it might have broken already if it was going to!

Sympathies to djgritt and Sam VRS

15-05-2008, 21:47	#1
Sam VRS Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 8	Brand New VRS Engine Mounts snapped Bad news Driving along today in my brand new VRS which I picked up on March 1st and I heard a very loud snap. It appears one of the engine mount bolts was missing and the other one loosened under the pressure and then snapped and the engine dropped and crushed my aircon pipe and damaged my exhast and gear box! Have done 7000 miles and driven it fairly hard some of the time, but alot of the time have been on the motorway driving fairly sensibly. As you can imagine I am gutted, as anyone else heard of this happening? Before this happened I thought my car was bullet proof! Cheers Sam

15-05-2008, 21:48	#2
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 18,845	Re: Brand New VRS Engine Mounts snapped Not good news that. There was another story on broken engine mounts you might find if you search. __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Why not take a look in the Member Services Section Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Columbus Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - 2002 Lotus Elise RaceTech, Gunmetal, Radio, Carpet Mats.

15-05-2008, 21:50	#3
Lummox Hairy Yeti Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 20,243	Re: Brand New VRS Engine Mounts snapped Which engine? Diesel by chance? __________________ 1988 Golf GTi - Made up of MK2, MK3 and MK4 Golf and Corrado parts also bits of Audi TT and even Ibiza Cupra. Truly a VAG car indeed.

15-05-2008, 21:57	#5
Sam VRS Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 8	Re: Brand New VRS Engine Mounts snapped Yeah it is the 170BHP Diesel, why do you mention Diesel, is there a problem your aware of?

15-05-2008, 21:59	#6
Lummox Hairy Yeti Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 20,243	Re: Brand New VRS Engine Mounts snapped If its a diesel then i've seen a few. For some reason on the latter BKP and BMR engines in the Passat they have a new type of engine mounting. Where the old one bolted to the block with three bolts then new type uses two fastened to the block and one to a revised bracket at the front of the engine that supports the alternator/ac compressor etc. This bracket is aluminium and just breaks up leaving the remaining two bolts to cope, which they dont. __________________ 1988 Golf GTi - Made up of MK2, MK3 and MK4 Golf and Corrado parts also bits of Audi TT and even Ibiza Cupra. Truly a VAG car indeed.

15-05-2008, 22:02	#7
Harry_vRS Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: North Posts: 1,902	Re: Brand New VRS Engine Mounts snapped Another reason to buy the TFSI over the Diesel. __________________ \| Silver Octavia v/RS Mk2 \| 18" Alloys \| Dual Zone Climatronic \| Xenons \|

15-05-2008, 22:41	#9
djgritt Weak Effort. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Blandford, Dorset Posts: 506	Re: Brand New VRS Engine Mounts snapped Mine did similar - sounds like yours got away lightly in comparison... Mine snapped a Mount bolt, causing the second bolt to come loose, and the engine dropped off the mount and it lunched the cambelt and a tensioner - resulting in engine loss Thread for mine here http://briskoda.net/forums/octavia-i...se-read/81579/ Use it to help yourself out with fighting your corner for the Warranty etc if needs be - i don't mind, wouldn't wish anyone else to go through the grief i did... __________________ VxON South Central Regional Organiser http://www.vauxhallownersnetwork.co.uk Horse Livery & Grazing available in North Dorset; http://www.freewebs.com/holebrookfarmlivery/index.htm

15-05-2008, 22:47	#10
daiking DILLIGAF? Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: manchester Posts: 1,793	Re: Brand New VRS Engine Mounts snapped Won't they issue a recall for this? Sounds pretty serious. I know Mazda issued a recall on engine mount bolts for the 3MPS early on: Recall Details for MAZDA - MAZDA 3 MPS Last edited by daiking; 15-05-2008 at 23:29.

15-05-2008, 23:27	#11
Jules59 Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 271	Re: Brand New VRS Engine Mounts snapped My TDI VRS was new in March. Ok so far. Is it possible to view the bracket easily and check its condition. ? __________________ Jules

16-05-2008, 08:32	#12
rsbspt Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: South East England Posts: 531	Re: Brand New VRS Engine Mounts snapped This clearly has serious safety implications. The thought of a failure at M'way speeds doesn't bear thinking about! For the sake of the rest of us, can I encourage those who've suffered this failure to make an incident report to: Vehicle & Operator Services Agency Vehicle Safety Branch Room 101 Berkeley House Croydon Street BRISTOL BS5 0DA Tel: 0117 954 3300 They will investigate and if it is a significant problem they have powers to insist on a recall. Without this, I suspect VAG will try to keep it under wraps... __________________ Phil Thomas Then: Red Fabia vRS: Not quite standard. Now: White Octavia vRS: Eibachs/FSDs - Milotec B pillars - Neuspeed shifter (thanx Stu!).

16-05-2008, 08:41	#13
motr Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 435	Re: Brand New VRS Engine Mounts snapped You should push for a brand new car as this one obviously sounds as if it wasn't fit for purpose. Oh, and contact Watchdog!!

16-05-2008, 12:26	#19
mattbeef Needs Money Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sheffield Posts: 3,211	Re: Brand New VRS Engine Mounts snapped More importantly do you know if they use the same mounts in other cars ie Golf, A3 Leon etc If its the same mounts across the range then there will be more weight to the argument __________________ I few bits here and there but im happy to Performance Torque Go on click me you know you want to

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