Octy II VRS tdi torque?

[Blanes]

keep reading torque of VRS TDI - some quoting 350NM some 258?

Anybody know the real figure (out the factory not modded)

Cheers

[Jonno VRs]

both are right, 350NM is 258lbs.

[Captain Scarlet]

That's what I was going to say. One is metric, the other imperial.

[Blanes]

gotchya cheers guys

[Jules59]

Superchips quote 359Nm at 2356 rpm on the standard car prior to "bluefinning". You can download their power curves if you want for comparisons. Interstingly the standard 170BHP TDI engine produces more BHP up to 4000rpm than their modded (241BHP) TFSI engine.
At 4000rpm the TFSI produces 145BHP whilst the TDI churns out 170BHP. In fact the superchips unmodded TDI went on to max out at 180BHP (similar to Barnstormer's car I think). May be variance in rolling roads or like the PD130 it actually puts out a bit more than quoted by Skoda.

[bahnstormer vrs]

Originally Posted by Jules59

Superchips quote 359Nm at 2356 rpm on the standard car prior to "bluefinning". You can download their power curves if you want for comparisons. Interstingly the standard 170BHP TDI engine produces more BHP up to 4000rpm than their modded (241BHP) TFSI engine.
At 4000rpm the TFSI produces 145BHP whilst the TDI churns out 170BHP. In fact the superchips unmodded TDI went on to max out at 180BHP (similar to Barnstormer's car I think). May be variance in rolling roads or like the PD130 it actually puts out a bit more than quoted by Skoda.

Small correction please, mine came out to 189.7bhp and on the same RR day a 'standard' vRS TDI made 172bhp and a 'Superchipped' one made (an expected) 202bhp.

This illustrates that on a 'correct' RR power outputs are as per the book.

[gillywibble]

Anyone know what a remapped torque figure will be?

[Jules59]

Originally Posted by gillywibble

Anyone know what a remapped torque figure will be?

Superchips quote 432Nm at 2315rpm.

[Jules59]

Originally Posted by bahnstormer vrs

Small correction please, mine came out to 189.7bhp and on the same RR day a 'standard' vRS TDI made 172bhp and a 'Superchipped' one made (an expected) 202bhp.

This illustrates that on a 'correct' RR power outputs are as per the book.

Hi. As I said, similar to 180BHP. That induction kit you've got is very impressive if its giving nearly 17BHP extra - good value as a Superchip reamap costing above £400 gives only 27BHP extra.

[djgritt]

Originally Posted by Jules59

Hi. As I said, similar to 180BHP. That induction kit you've got is very impressive if its giving nearly 17BHP extra - good value as a Superchip reamap costing above £400 gives only 27BHP extra.

It was also running V-Power Diesel with the Millers Sport stuff in it, as well as a comprehensive (if somewhat crude) cold air feed - and boy was it fecking cold that morning


Mine was the "Standard" TDi pulling in 173.2hp & 284lb/ft - running V-Power Diesel and a Pipercross Panel Filter - so was 5hp up, and 26lb/ft


Mine was then RR'd 2 months later, running BP Ultimate Diesel, and the filter, with the RR Figures/settings set the same as the previous run, and an inlet temp difference of 1 degC - it then achieved 177.9hp & 265lb/ft

[Jules59]

[quote=djgritt;1276840]It was also running V-Power Diesel with the Millers Sport stuff in it, as well as a comprehensive (if somewhat crude) cold air feed - and boy was it fecking cold that morning


ta for that. So it wasnt just down to the induction system then

[bengie]

comparing diesels and petrols at like for like rev ranges isn't really right seeing as the petrol will rev far higher than the diesel.

[FocusZtec]

Originally Posted by bengie

comparing diesels and petrols at like for like rev ranges isn't really right seeing as the petrol will rev far higher than the diesel.

Exactly what I thought when reading the above post!

It may produce a little more at 4000rpm but then on the Petrol you still have another 3000+ rpm of even more power to accelerate with before having to change gear!

Lee

[bengie]

looking on the superchips site the PD170 makes its peak power at 4200rpm then falls very quickly where the Tfsi makes its peak at 6100rpm and doesn't die off at all so you can't really compare the two side by side on rpm basis as they simply work differently

interestingly the petrol makes peak torque at 2500rpm ish and still has about 95% at over 5000rpm where the diesl peaks at 2300rpm and has fallen to 69% of this by 4500rpm.

the peak torque figures are 317Nm and 432Nm respectivly

[bengie]

rev range makes very little difference in balls out driving really, at trax last year i thought my mazda was going to be poop as it has zero mid range pull and doesn't make peak torque till about 5500rpm but when driving like this you are flat out anyway so the car never really dipped below 4500rpm anyway

[bahnstormer vrs]

Originally Posted by djgritt

It was also running V-Power Diesel with the Millers Sport stuff in it, as well as a comprehensive (if somewhat crude) cold air feed - and boy was it fecking cold that morning

Crude but effective! I'd put about half my bhp increase down to the k&n induction kit and half to V-power/Millers.

Mine was the "Standard" TDi pulling in 173.2hp & 284lb/ft - running V-Power Diesel and a Pipercross Panel Filter - so was 5hp up, and 26lb/ft

Somehow despite my bhp being well up, I only pulled the same 284 lb/ft of torque as djgritt

Mine was then RR'd 2 months later, running BP Ultimate Diesel, and the filter, with the RR Figures/settings set the same as the previous run, and an inlet temp difference of 1 degC - it then achieved 177.9hp & 265lb/ft

Interesting to see you were 19 lb/ft down on torque on the second RR day, even though you bhp was up. Could that be due to running BP Ultimate as opposed to Shell V-power? I wonder?