Single Mass Flywheel Conversion
This is a discussion on Single Mass Flywheel Conversion within the Octavia II forums, part of the Skoda Model Discussion Area category; Does anyone know of a single mass flywheel for the 2.0 TDI? I know devonmikeyboy was running one on his ...
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11-05-2008, 22:13
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| Mmm Weißbier  Join Date: Jan 2006
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|  Single Mass Flywheel Conversion Does anyone know of a single mass flywheel for the 2.0 TDI? I know devonmikeyboy was running one on his slightly fettled 2.0 TDI. I heard skoda do an SMF kit for taxi's but is this for the 1.9 only or does anyone know if they do one for the 2.0? Thanks 
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11-05-2008, 23:22
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| Briskodian  Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sheffield
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| Re: Single Mass Flywheel Conversion why do the taxi's get special treatment?
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12-05-2008, 00:27
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| Get out the way  Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bournemouth
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| Re: Single Mass Flywheel Conversion Because we drive the sh*t out of them  |
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12-05-2008, 00:52
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| Re: Single Mass Flywheel Conversion Because they go through DMF's at a rather fast rate as they are not really suited to that sort of driving. Oddly enough Taxi will probably know who told me about this too. The DMF seriously is a brain-dead bit of over engineering backed up by manufacturing down to cost.
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12-05-2008, 06:36
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| Re: Single Mass Flywheel Conversion Hmm I have a spare SMF from a SDi, wonder how that would work? Not sure on sizes, will have to check.
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12-05-2008, 10:42
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| Re: Single Mass Flywheel Conversion Quote:
Will be having a chat with skoda, but I think I'm fairly certain yet another DMF is starting to fail on me.  Oddly enough there was an Honest John article in the paper that was questioning if modern dervs are worth it now due to DMF and turbo issues they all seem to have.
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12-05-2008, 10:52
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| Re: Single Mass Flywheel Conversion hmm so whats the point in a dmf?
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12-05-2008, 10:57
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| Re: Single Mass Flywheel Conversion It supposedly reduces vibration by damping the link between the crankshaft and the gearbox. However, if you boot it at very low revs (mechanically unsympathetic IMHO), you can mash the internals...
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12-05-2008, 11:22
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| Re: Single Mass Flywheel Conversion had a dual mass flywheel on my focus tdci, all i know is the ecu used to cut the engine out at about 800rpm to protect the dmf, as a result it was the easiest car in the world to stall and went with one hell of a bang when it did stall
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12-05-2008, 11:31
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| Re: Single Mass Flywheel Conversion The focus did protect it's DMF on the 115 1.8 TDCI, but still one died on the fathers car. IIRC the ford garage said it was common on that engine. A DMF is IMHO bad because if you have always driven diesel using the low revs then you can't drive how you are used to driving. When I say from low revs I don't mean booting it from low, just using the torque to pull you around most places below 2k rpm and save fuel. After all that is the whole point of a derv, not having ot rev it hard to get around. The DMF has springs in it that compress every time you accelerate so they are eventually going to wear out anyway. They are obviously not, IMHO, strong enough for a high torque engine and hence the problems people are seeing in all brands of car. Basically IMHO, a heavier SMF would have damped the car just fine as would a small pre injection of fuel or a number of things which are simpler in design that a DMF. In all the cars I've ever drive we have never replaced a flywheel even on ones doing 150-250k miles. Sure both of those had a new clutch, but then the cars were been driven by 2 or 3 people and one or more of those were new drivers. It now looks like 80k is standard for a new clutch and flywheel. I've been through more than one of both and the car hasn't even hit 50k yet.
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12-05-2008, 11:38
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| Re: Single Mass Flywheel Conversion mines was the 1.8 100 tdci, does the vRS TFSi have a dmf then?
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12-05-2008, 11:55
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| Re: Single Mass Flywheel Conversion No idea on the petrol engines I'm affraid.
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12-05-2008, 13:34
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| Re: Single Mass Flywheel Conversion Yes it does. The clutch is 240mm on both vehicles, and I understand they have the same gearbox and flywheels too. However the TFSI isn't as agressive with the torque, so should be more durable. 
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12-05-2008, 14:21
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| Re: Single Mass Flywheel Conversion Is this a G60 Flywheel and clutch and am i reading that correctly that it is for a 2.0 TDI or should it read 2.0, tdi and 1.8t? Performance Cafe - VW & Audi Parts - Aftermarket & OEM Valeo do a kit but it doesn't mention the 2.0 Valeo Service UK and Eire (Unitedkingdom - EN) If so that seems a damn sight better than eating DMF's every 6 months
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