What would happen if...

dcrd · 21-06-2008, 16:22

i lowered my estate more at the front than the back

?

Would it not improve my handling slightly

...

or am i being silly again?

L-Y-K · 21-06-2008, 16:30

you would notice it quite a bit! and your headlights wouldnt work as well.

Taxi 219 · 21-06-2008, 17:13

I would have thought that the rear end would be too light compared to the front after this.

djgritt · 21-06-2008, 17:29

Back end MIGHT get a little twitchy...

streety · 22-06-2008, 08:30

Once you start to corner, the front and rear tyres start to bite into the carriageway to provide grip, if the fronts are providing more grip than the rears on a sweeping bend then the rears will start twitching looking for more grip, until the car is well out of shape and you are all over the road. IMHO not a good plan.!! but then again I am a boring 1.9td 4x4 driver nowadays!

sebulbus · 22-06-2008, 20:36

All the above, and a car that will behave bad when braking sharply, if the suspension happens to bottom out.

dan_the_v8man · 22-06-2008, 21:34

my guess is you'd end up in a field facing the way you came

dcrd · 27-06-2008, 17:26

Firstly thanks for your replys, most illuminating.

Ok then fine it was a wild idea i know but i'm currently investigating ways to reduce the understeer on my tdi estate which at time can be a little excessive.

...and before anybody says it, no, i do not want to just drive slower

Sammycarp · 04-07-2008, 13:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcrd

i'm currently investigating ways to reduce the understeer on my tdi estate which at time can be a little excessive.

...and before anybody says it, no, i do not want to just drive slower

Keep some LARGE bags of sand in the boot at all times?

If you work out how to do it, let me know

sebulbus · 04-07-2008, 23:19

Keep the tank topped up. That's 40-50 kgs (what was petrol's density again?) useful ballast.

dan_the_v8man · 05-07-2008, 13:08

when your front tyres are approaching the legal limit, stick them on the back then when the car under steers bit more lock, hit the brakes, let straight off, nice bit of lift of over steer which is nice and controllable with the throttle.

only down side is, if you ever come round a corner and find something coming the other way in the middle of the road, you go to hit the brakes hard and unless your ready for it, the **** end will have a tendency to step out

21-06-2008, 16:22	#1
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dcrd Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 52 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: What would happen if... Firstly thanks for your replys, most illuminating. Ok then fine it was a wild idea i know but i'm currently investigating ways to reduce the understeer on my tdi estate which at time can be a little excessive. ...and before anybody says it, no, i do not want to just drive slower

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dan_the_v8man Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sheffield Posts: 309 Thanks: 13 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Re: What would happen if... when your front tyres are approaching the legal limit, stick them on the back then when the car under steers bit more lock, hit the brakes, let straight off, nice bit of lift of over steer which is nice and controllable with the throttle. only down side is, if you ever come round a corner and find something coming the other way in the middle of the road, you go to hit the brakes hard and unless your ready for it, the **** end will have a tendency to step out __________________ 57 Mk2 2.0TFSI vRS Estate in Race Blue, jumbo box, cruise control, dual zone climate, zenith 18", maxidot, xenon's, rear parking sensors, light assistance, sunset glass

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