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Old 03-08-2004, 23:37   #1
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(Well everyone else is at it so here goes. I originally put this together a few days ago as I’m still waiting on before and after dynos. James has a glitch with the software.)

Sorry. Long post warning!

I just thought I’d bring you lot up to speed with developments in rich1068land. That’s if you’re interested of course.

You may know that my beloved Octavia RS has been leased from new (1st February 2003) and as a consequence of this my options for modifications have been slightly limited. By slightly I mean that I could only have what the dealer I leased from approved. This included an absolutely appalling Superchip.

Well I am chuffed to say that as of two weeks ago the car is now mine and the Superchip is out so now I am free to do exactly as I please with the car, credit card limit allowing of course.

My first course of action was to visit JBS Auto Design in Chesterfield (I’m only round the corner in Sheffield) to see if they really did have red glowing eyes and speak in tongues and strangely they didn’t. A thoroughly nice bunch of people, extremely knowledgeable and not at all pushy. They’ve had a bad rep on here mainly due to James’ rather questionable first posts where he hid the fact that he was ‘in the trade’, not a good move as certain Briskodians have long memories. He had his reasons but that argument is for another day.

On my first trip over (Saturday 24th July) I asked James (and his faithful assistant Kev) what ‘minor’ mods could be carried out that wouldn’t break the bank. So in went a K&N filter, Forge/Samco turbo inlet pipe and stiffer engine mount bushes (recommended, gives the car a much more solid feel). I resisted putting my Forge 007 back in as I like the subtle little ‘psht’ that the Bailey DV30 makes. While I was there I also bumped into a couple of other Briskodians. One who left considerably poorer after just popping over for a chat (LOL) and EddyH. I can safely say that the pictures on here of Eddy's motor do not do it justice. Anyway, the slippery slope beckoned once again. I also purchased a nice little sub woofer from Bluespot which, when I get round to fitting it, will be mounted where my autochanger was. The autochanger is now sitting in my colleagues Audi.

All this unfortunately coincided with me receiving my new 0% on balance transfers and purchases Halifax One card (nine months!). So off I toddled again (Saturday 31st July). This time it was for 3 bar 98 RON Revo with before and after dynos. Why Revo? Well, I like the idea that you can turn it off should you need to. I didn’t buy an SPS unit but James offered to do the switch if needed. I don’t intend to ever visit a main dealer for servicing but you never know and anyway the main dealers round me are quite mod friendly. Also, JBS are in Chesterfield, there and back in my lunch hour. I’d also done quite a bit of reading up about Revo and the feedback was largely positive, SCN and UKMKIVs were both very useful. The main reason however was what I’ve already mentioned. JBS are a very professional bunch and basically were not trying to sell me anything I didn’t want or need.

So how does my car go now? Well, if I tell you that on my little play around the Peak District yesterday afternoon I was heard to exclaim ‘**** me! This is fifth!’ then that should give you some idea. You obviously have to adapt your driving style a little after a remap but I’ve found the power delivery to be absolutely spot on, very driveable not all or nothing. I’m so pleased that after a year of poor running with the Superchip the car is now what I always wanted it to be and a little bit more.

I’ll keep you posted.

If anyone else visits, James and Kev both take two sugars
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Old 03-08-2004, 23:50   #2
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Hehe

Tell me about the "2 sugars" lol... I used to make lots of drinks there until Leigh came along! lol

Glad to hear your car is finally running right... We'll have to have a bazz round Derbyshire sometime so I can show you how it's done (jk mate lol).

Hope to see you down there sometime!

I don't have any sugar... I'm sweet enough thanks!
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Rich,

As already said elsewhere, glad you're finally happy with the car

Just be careful with that Halifax card, i just got one too and they're lethal

At least you won't be struggling to keep up any more :drive:
 
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nice one rich!

superchips....yeuch!
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superchips....yeuch!
Now he tells me

Goodnight all.
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Another happy punter for JBS and Revo.

Glad you're happy Rich, always nice to hear good reports.

Review section, for a review of the REVO and JBS, would be nice. Would help other people making their decisions, especially as this thread will probably disapppear down the pages (just cut and paste if it was me )
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That would be me then who left 'considerably poorer' LOL!
 
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Old 08-08-2004, 17:52   #8
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OK everyone, update on Revo/JBS.

As you know I had 3 bar 98 RON Revo installed last weekend and thoroughly enjoyed it from the start. A weeks driving allowed me to get quite familiar with the power delivery and I found that it was equally at home around town and on the open road. I did find that using the power through the gears (say ¾ throttle) I could occasionally feel very slight ‘steps’ in power but it was barely noticeable, most of the time the power was very progressive but Kev reassured me this was quite normal. Dropping to fourth or third for overtaking is an absolute joy and as I’ve already said I can’t recommend Revo enough.

BUT…

I may have mentioned that I overheard James talking to DaveH about 3 bar vs. 4 bar the previous week. In a nutshell Dave wasn’t sure which one he wanted and James was explaining the pros and cons. He also said that for example I had never walked in there saying ‘What’s the most I can get?’ so he’d just steered me towards 3 bar ie the milder and slightly cheaper option. At the time I thought this was very honest and also helped me make up my mind about JBS. Over the course of the week however this had somehow turned into James questioning my masculinity. More seriously I just thought why not? I’ve put up with a half arsed Superchip for the last year, I’m going for the lot.

So that’s why I was back at JBS yesterday, having 4 bar (and the required fuel pressure regulator) installed. (No charge other than for the FPR, in case you were wondering) Obviously James is always late on a Saturday morning so I busied myself making the tea while Kev put on the complete Forge/Samco pipe kit that they just happened to have lying around So now I’m all Revo’d, Samco’d, JBS’d up and couldn’t be happier. The car now goes like the clappers and I swear the 4 bar is smoother. I thought it might be a bit more on/off but it’s not, still a delight around town and scares me to death around Derbyshire. It’s only been on since yesterday so I’m still getting used to it but I reckon 4 bar is definitely the way to go.

As usual, I’ll keep you posted.

Go on Dave. You know you want it...
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60 quid for the fpr?
 
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plus VAT.

That still annoys me.

Are you tempted Jason? You're from CupraNet so you must have read plenty re Revo/Jabba/etc

BTW How was Tatton Park?
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Hi Rich
My god i thought i was a born again maxhead but youve just gone for it big style. what has shmbo had to say,credit card must need thereapy after that lot.
by the way just been re-jabbered with boost controller fitted
have you gone for the burbery cap look nice one with the mods about time too
 
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I think I can see myself falling into the same trap when I get mine done (eventually) ... I'll steel myself just to get a basic remap, then end up with loads of expensive extras bolted on ...
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My god i thought i was a born again maxhead but youve just gone for it big style. what has shmbo had to say,credit card must need thereapy after that lot.
by the way just been re-jabbered with boost controller fitted
have you gone for the burbery cap look nice one with the mods about time too


I'm off down Castle Market tomorrow morning for the cap. Genuine don't you know.

Credit card is warm to the touch shall we say.

Anyway, says you with your re-re-map!
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how much are the engine mount thingys and are they worth it.
credit card still cool ,got to try to figure how to get 19s on car without shmbo noticing
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plus VAT.

That still annoys me.

Are you tempted Jason? You're from CupraNet so you must have read plenty re Revo/Jabba/etc

BTW How was Tatton Park?
always tempted for more speed and yes clued up on the pro's and cons' of them all,horses for courses,but will probably go revo route so th mrs hasn't got to rein in all that power.
tatton park was hot,very hot,but a good turn out and some nice shiny skoda's too,i'll post some pics up when i get some after sun on me napper
 
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how much are the engine mount thingys and are they worth it.
credit card still cool ,got to try to figure how to get 19s on car without shmbo noticing
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It just gives the car a very different 'feel', hard to describe, it feels more solid as the engine isn't flexing as much when you rev. At first you think the car is going to shake to bits as there is a deep vibration but after a few miles they bed in and you don't really notice. That sounds really bad doesn't it?
No performance increase obviously but the car feels 'tighter' Hopefully DaveH will come along and explain this a little better.

About £30 plus 30 minutes fitting.

Good luck getting brand new 19's passed SWMBO
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It just gives the car a very different 'feel', hard to describe, it feels more solid as the engine isn't flexing as much when you rev. At first you think the car is going to shake to bits as there is a deep vibration but after a few miles they bed in and you don't really notice. That sounds really bad doesn't it?
No performance increase obviously but the car feels 'tighter' Hopefully DaveH will come along and explain this a little better.

About £30 plus 30 minutes fitting.

Good luck getting brand new 19's passed SWMBO
As you say Rich, the mounts (which replace the standard mounts in the fore/aft dogbone engine mount) reduce the degree to which the engine can rock backwards and forwards when giving the car some stick. If the engine can't move as much then theoretically more of the initial 'kick' when acceleration will be passed to the wheels. I would guess this effect would be small but Rich has obviously felt the difference. James at JBS recommended them to me for the 4x4 as apparently with a remapped engine and oodles of grip the engine can move so severely that it can snap the turbo intake pipe.
 
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A lot of people from UK-MKIVS have done this mod and think it really makes a difference.
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James phoned me today to let me know that he won't be sending the pdf files of my dynos to me because he's got some all singing, all dancing new software so he wants to run my car again. I've got a feeling that it's just easier for idiots to understand. I just stood there looking gormless when him and Dave were talking about my results on Saturday.

Anyway, Wednesday.
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James phoned me today to let me know that he won't be sending the pdf files of my dynos to me because he's got some all singing, all dancing new software so he wants to run my car again. I've got a feeling that it's just easier for idiots to understand. I just stood there looking gormless when him and Dave were talking about my results on Saturday.

Anyway, Wednesday.
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