StageII REVO - 2.0T FSI

Makefish · 14-08-2006, 21:15

What are the main noticable differences between Stage I & II remaps. The write up claims it is 'more agressive' but exactly what does this mean, is it going to make day to day driving unbearable?.

Would also like to see the performance curves and figures one could expect from a stage II map.

DanGB · 20-08-2006, 13:26

Me too please..

RevoKev · 21-08-2006, 16:42

Stage 2 software gives a wider range of adjustment to the software as well as slightly more aggressive/higher timing and boost/load levels as default. These can only be utilised by cars that are stage 2 spec though... ie: have a full turbo back exhaust and other bolt on mods.

Indicative power and torque graphs attached...

the 98ron Miltek curves and the Race fuel curves are stage2!

DanGB · 21-08-2006, 23:07

what other bolt on mods please?

**VRStu** · 22-08-2006, 07:35

I would imagine Panel Air Filter, Carbonio or P/Flow. Don't think there is much else unless you go for the Neuspeed pulley or go silly with the second FMIC.

There are a range of mounting bushes to cope with the extra power.

RevoKev · 23-08-2006, 12:27

That car was standard other than Revo and a full miltek!

(aside from the suspension)

Makefish · 24-08-2006, 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevoKev

That car was standard other than Revo and a full miltek!

(aside from the suspension)

Would that have been StageII map by chance.

RevoKev · 24-08-2006, 14:59

Yes, stg2 with the exhaust.

Shifty · 24-08-2006, 17:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevoKev

Yes, stg2 with the exhaust.

I tried stage 2 matey, with a neuspeed p flow, and a full exhaust with 200 cel cat, and as with another map, it caused the car to cut out at 5500 rpm and above, in 3rd gear and higher. Can you shed any light on that. Cheers

DanGB · 03-09-2006, 08:49

any response revo? this is putting me off

***Neo_VR*** · 03-09-2006, 09:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanGB

any response revo? this is putting me off

As quoted by Shifty.. it wasnt just the Revo map that did this... something to do with a weak part in the turbo system not holding boost at high revs..
and i belive hes running revo at the moment too

DanGB · 03-09-2006, 10:05

ah, weak diverter valve I think then.

***Neo_VR*** · 03-09-2006, 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanGB

ah, weak diverter valve I think then.

thought that was the same as a dump valve??

**VRStu** · 03-09-2006, 20:08

I know someone else running stage II REVO and turbo back exhaust without this issue.

DanGB · 03-09-2006, 22:15

ahh good, full speed ahead with my plans then

Makefish · 04-09-2006, 07:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanGB

ah, weak diverter valve I think then.

Had a long chat with Forge at Trax this weekend, in particular about the BOV and the problems with the weak diverter valve. They are currently developing a new stronger version of this component to compensate for higher boost pressures (apparantly the spring on the OEM version is no stronger than those used in a clicky biro!!).

Unfortunately though this is still in development and they would not commit to a possible release date.

Fluffmeister · 04-09-2006, 10:46

But there is an OEM SEAT DV available with an uprated spring for the Leon Cupra 2.0T and I know this was retrofitted to a certain car and made no difference.

In the States the guy I was speaking to at RZ Motoring was mentioning they have had prob's with early mk5's and fuel pump / fuel pressure. He was going to mail me about it, I will give him a nudge as I was to busy nosing around their blinged up gallardo to be paying full attention.

**VRStu** · 04-09-2006, 10:50

I have mentioned that to said person already and checked the two other cars I have in my immediate vicinity. I think we ruled that out Tony.

Want me to PM you the info to check yours??

Shifty · 04-09-2006, 10:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makefish

Had a long chat with Forge at Trax this weekend, in particular about the BOV and the problems with the weak diverter valve. They are currently developing a new stronger version of this component to compensate for higher boost pressures (apparantly the spring on the OEM version is no stronger than those used in a clicky biro!!).

Unfortunately though this is still in development and they would not commit to a possible release date.

They told me near Christmas

DanGB · 21-09-2006, 10:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevoKev

Stage 2 software gives a wider range of adjustment to the software as well as slightly more aggressive/higher timing and boost/load levels as default. These can only be utilised by cars that are stage 2 spec though... ie: have a full turbo back exhaust and other bolt on mods.

Indicative power and torque graphs attached...

the 98ron Miltek curves and the Race fuel curves are stage2!

Hi Revo can you tell me what settings were used to obtain the 271.5bhp.

can you confirm the only performance mods were the Full milltek System and Revo stage 2 program. With stock air filter?

Also do you know what brand of fuel was used?

I am putting mine on a rolling road next month and want to emulate this graph to see how achievable it is.

Thanks.

14-08-2006, 21:15	#1
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20-08-2006, 13:26	#2
DanGB Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: SE London Posts: 375 Thanks: 7 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: StageII REVO - 2.0T FSI Me too please.. __________________ Seat New Leon TFSI Sport. Tweaked OLD: Fabia 1.4 8v

21-08-2006, 23:07	#4
DanGB Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: SE London Posts: 375 Thanks: 7 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: StageII REVO - 2.0T FSI what other bolt on mods please? __________________ Seat New Leon TFSI Sport. Tweaked OLD: Fabia 1.4 8v

22-08-2006, 07:35	#5
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 19,105 Thanks: 67 Thanked 767 Times in 694 Posts	Re: StageII REVO - 2.0T FSI I would imagine Panel Air Filter, Carbonio or P/Flow. Don't think there is much else unless you go for the Neuspeed pulley or go silly with the second FMIC. There are a range of mounting bushes to cope with the extra power. __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Why not take a look in the Member Services Section Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Columbus Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - 2002 Lotus Elise RaceTech, Gunmetal, Radio, Carpet Mats.

23-08-2006, 12:27	#6
RevoKev Site Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 204 Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts	Re: StageII REVO - 2.0T FSI That car was standard other than Revo and a full miltek! (aside from the suspension)

24-08-2006, 14:59	#8
RevoKev Site Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 204 Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts	Re: StageII REVO - 2.0T FSI Yes, stg2 with the exhaust.

03-09-2006, 08:49	#10
DanGB Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: SE London Posts: 375 Thanks: 7 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: StageII REVO - 2.0T FSI any response revo? this is putting me off __________________ Seat New Leon TFSI Sport. Tweaked OLD: Fabia 1.4 8v

03-09-2006, 10:05	#12
DanGB Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: SE London Posts: 375 Thanks: 7 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: StageII REVO - 2.0T FSI ah, weak diverter valve I think then. __________________ Seat New Leon TFSI Sport. Tweaked OLD: Fabia 1.4 8v

03-09-2006, 20:08	#14
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 19,105 Thanks: 67 Thanked 767 Times in 694 Posts	Re: StageII REVO - 2.0T FSI I know someone else running stage II REVO and turbo back exhaust without this issue. __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Why not take a look in the Member Services Section Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Columbus Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - 2002 Lotus Elise RaceTech, Gunmetal, Radio, Carpet Mats.

03-09-2006, 22:15	#15
DanGB Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: SE London Posts: 375 Thanks: 7 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: StageII REVO - 2.0T FSI ahh good, full speed ahead with my plans then __________________ Seat New Leon TFSI Sport. Tweaked OLD: Fabia 1.4 8v

04-09-2006, 10:46	#17
Fluffmeister So rectum roots Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North West UK Posts: 2,923 Thanks: 40 Thanked 79 Times in 71 Posts	Re: StageII REVO - 2.0T FSI But there is an OEM SEAT DV available with an uprated spring for the Leon Cupra 2.0T and I know this was retrofitted to a certain car and made no difference. In the States the guy I was speaking to at RZ Motoring was mentioning they have had prob's with early mk5's and fuel pump / fuel pressure. He was going to mail me about it, I will give him a nudge as I was to busy nosing around their blinged up gallardo to be paying full attention. __________________ All you need in life is HERE The path to enlightenment lies before you ..... HERE Quoting Racing Enriquez "I have an uncle that likes to work the wood"

04-09-2006, 10:50	#18
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 19,105 Thanks: 67 Thanked 767 Times in 694 Posts	Re: StageII REVO - 2.0T FSI I have mentioned that to said person already and checked the two other cars I have in my immediate vicinity. I think we ruled that out Tony. Want me to PM you the info to check yours?? __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Why not take a look in the Member Services Section Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Columbus Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - 2002 Lotus Elise RaceTech, Gunmetal, Radio, Carpet Mats.

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