pc polishing

[funkymonkey]

my black octy needs de swirling but i don't want to fork out all that cash for a pc only to use it once !!!!!would anyone be up for the doing job, or do you know whare i can take it in the manchester area maybe a bit futher

[Makefish]

I have a PC and more cleaning products than you could shake a stick at and I'd be more than happy to give you a hand................but unfortunately I live near Portsmouth so that would be a bit far would'nt it!!.

[funkymonkey]

just a bit mate !!!but thanks for the offer though

[Tiptronic]

Originally Posted by funkymonkey

my black octy needs de swirling but i don't want to fork out all that cash for a pc only to use it once !!!!!would anyone be up for the doing job, or do you know whare i can take it in the manchester area maybe a bit futher

Have you had a look on Detailing World? You could post a request in the regional section on there.

One of the members (Young Guns) has recently set up full time, as Finer Details, and I think he his in the North Manchester area. I've read a lot of his reports on DW, and his abilities are legendary.

Hope that helps.

[funkymonkey]

had a look at a few sites and to be honest " there to bloody dear" were talking £200 plus to remove swirls, i can buy my own pc for that learn how to use it and then charge £100 for the same service

[beedie]

£200 wont buy you the PC and then all the products that a detailer would then use with it!
personally i have had my car done professioally and then bought over a grands worth of stuff since. i can now put it to use however doing other peoples car

[daiking]

Originally Posted by funkymonkey

had a look at a few sites and to be honest " there to bloody dear" were talking £200 plus to remove swirls, i can buy my own pc for that learn how to use it and then charge £100 for the same service

I'd get a quote from someone like Iain/Finerdetails. He might want to see it first to see how bad it is but I doubt it'll be £200+ AND he'll show you what he's doing so you can learn at the same time. Its not just the cost of the pc, there's all the accessories and all your products that'll push the cost up way over the cost of a de-swirl.

[funkymonkey]

Spose You Right!!! Its Just A Hell Of A Lot Of Money And I Think Detailer's Charge Too Much!!! "as I Used To Be One Many Moon's Ago" It Was A Different Ball Game Then, I've Had A Good Quote From A Guy Called Tim Who Runs A Site Called "clean Your Car " He's Not A Professional But He Has Done A Few Cars Before And Comes Highly Recommended Found Him On Detailing World He Can Do It For £130 With My Help , So I'm Gonna Have It Done This Spring, I'll Keep You Posted

[cheezemonkhai]

Mr Fish.... Are you practised with your PC and would I be able to come to some sort of arrangement with you as I'll probably be picking up a second hand car, which no doubt will be covered in swirls.

[Makefish]

Originally Posted by cheezemonkhai

Mr Fish.... Are you practised with your PC and would I be able to come to some sort of arrangement with you as I'll probably be picking up a second hand car, which no doubt will be covered in swirls.

I have used it twice on my car, the second time with stunning results. Have read a lot about on what to do and more importantly what not to do so if you can trust me I would be happy to oblige

[cheezemonkhai]

I'll give you a shout when I get around to getting myself a new motor mate

Ta

[M.A.C]

Hope you're intending to use a PTG, Makefish.....

[Makefish]

Originally Posted by M.A.C

Hope you're intending to use a PTG, Makefish.....

Don't tease me, wtf you on about?

Edit: If you mean a paint thickness gauge, don't be bloody stupid.

[M.A.C]

Well what a rude response, only trying to help......
Carry on with your PC without one then. Although the first time you chew into the primer you'll be the one who looks 'bloody stupid' !!!

[Liverpool-Lad]

Pfft, that takes the fun out of it!

[Makefish]

Originally Posted by M.A.C

Well what a rude response, only trying to help......
Carry on with your PC without one then. Although the first time you chew into the primer you'll be the one who looks 'bloody stupid' !!!

Are you suggesting that for every PC that is sold and operated that a PTG has to be used?.

[M.A.C]

No. Many people are quite happy to carry on determinedly trying to remove swirling until....ooops.
Guess what they go out and buy next ?
I'm a Professional Automotive Detailer BTW.

If you've never used one you'd be probably be surprised at the variation on a panel-by-panel basis - with some unusually thin areas in places. Especially on less luxurious makes of car.......
Often there is a mark, one left by bird lime etching for example, that requires many more passes than usual. If this area is also pretty thinly painted you're on dodgy ground.
Because you cannot always see the effect of the PC pad (because of the product on the panel) its usually too late before you discover the worst.
My advice would be to borrow one, take multiple readings and record any thin areas on a rough diagram of the car.
Then carry on - carefully if its not your car.
Why not go to a breakers yard and get an old bonnet to practice stonechip repair and your PC'ing ? Good also for testing different products before slapping them on your car......

[Makefish]

Originally Posted by M.A.C

No. Many people are quite happy to carry on determinedly trying to remove swirling until....ooops.
Guess what they go out and buy next ?
I'm a Professional Automotive Detailer BTW.

If you've never used one you'd be probably be surprised at the variation on a panel-by-panel basis - with some unusually thin areas in places. Especially on less luxurious makes of car.......
Often there is a mark, one left by bird lime etching for example, that requires many more passes than usual. If this area is also pretty thinly painted you're on dodgy ground.
Because you cannot always see the effect of the PC pad (because of the product on the panel) its usually too late before you discover the worst.
My advice would be to borrow one, take multiple readings and record any thin areas on a rough diagram of the car.
Then carry on - carefully if its not your car.
Why not go to a breakers yard and get an old bonnet to practice stonechip repair and your PC'ing ? Good also for testing different products before slapping them on your car......

Thankyou for your advice and I apologise for my earlier abrubtness, I misinterpretted your comment .

For modern paintwork i.e. on my car I have only used a faily light pad and polish which has done the trick, had not considered getting a PTG purely because I did'nt think it was necessary

[M.A.C]

Sure, no problem.
I don't suppose it would be an issue if they were,say, £20. Would it...? We'd all have one as part of our kit.
But, as with anything expensive (and fairly uninteresting) we justify avoiding buying it, preferring to spend our hard-earned on other more attractive mods - like a HID kit for example......
I've seen the results caused by incorrect use (mainly with rotarys) and a respray of the panel is often the only inevitable solution.
Thats why I bit the bullet and bought one. I find it gives me more confidence to concentrate on the perfect finish also......
If you need any advice or have any products to swap, post here.....

[cheezemonkhai]

I have a few scratches in what looks like the clear coat that I wouldn't mind tidying up, so do people suggest I give it a go with zymol hand polish stuff or scratch X first to see how well that works?

Obviously I really don't want to risk any damage to the paintwork on a car that is new to me, and can't fall back on the insurance.