Repairs and detailing advice

harrysprout · 08-04-2008, 22:22

Right, I am really into this detailing lark now. So I have a question or maybe a couple.
First off When I bought the car I crashed it driving off the forecourt. The thing had been insured for all of five mins.

Needless to say I did not drive away in my new car that day. To say I was distraught is an understatement.

On picking up the car after repair I noticed a difference in the paint surface to the driver and passenger door, these had been re sprayed with blending into the wing and rear quarter. It is particularly evident on the drivers door, less so on the rear passenger, the paint having a distinct glassy, wavy appearance, compared to the slightly mottled factory spray.

I guessed that this is a result of slightly over zealous polishing by the sprayer. another problem has arisen here, as there seems to be a slight depression in the panel just behind the door handle, I might try the freeze spray and hairdryer technique to see if it comes out. The doors were new so there is NO filler. On a bright sunny day parked on a gravel surface it looks a dog to me, and I despair, yet at other times I can live with it. I had it checked out by two guys who are pretty picky and they said it wasn't a bad job by any means, and the depression is no worse than you see on some other brand new cars.

So after that long winded story, here's the question. Will damned good detailing session even out the differences in the paint work? I appreciate it will never be quite the same, but it may help.

I will get some pictures up when I have had the chance to wash it to show the paint work. This may help some of you guys determine wether the freezer spray thing would work.

Thanks

KR MAN · 08-04-2008, 23:35

It might be worth posting the question on the detailingworld forum with some pics and ask some of the pro detailers what they think. Depending where you live one might take a look at for you.

bigal rallyred · 09-04-2008, 08:10

Sounds like orange peel effect on the door. Polishing alone will not solve this and need to be sanded down with wet and dry then polished. I've been into detailing for about 6 years and I'm still not confident enough to tackle this myself. Might be worth getting either a profession bodyshop or a professional detailer to sort it for you.
They could also look at the imperfection around the door handle.

HTH.

Baker21 · 09-04-2008, 08:13

Can you give more details of the car in question? Age? Colour? Mileage?

Without seeing the car it is possible that a good going over with a DA or a Rotary will bring the old panels up to scratch as these will no doubt be faded and have had some wear and tear.........

harrysprout · 09-04-2008, 12:54

Hi mate I am just waiting for an opportunity to take a few photos in good light so you can cast your expert eye over it. I will upload them asap.

It's beautifully sunny right now up here in Harrogate, but my wife is just going out in it, so collateral damage always looms on the horizon, esp. when she abandons it next to a battered old Datsun Sunny in the Asda car park!

My car is a race blue VRS Octy 06 reg with 18K on the clock.

Thanks for the pointers

cheezemonkhai · 09-04-2008, 13:09

Why don't you just complain to the insurance?

Most bodywork repairs are 3 warranted for 3 years and if they have done a crap job they should fix it.

Baker21 · 09-04-2008, 14:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by harrysprout

Hi mate I am just waiting for an opportunity to take a few photos in good light so you can cast your expert eye over it.

I am no expert but I can at least give you some advice..........I guess for a comparison you could look at the recent work I did on Tom_vRS Octavia in this forum last weekend to see a similar mileage car and the paint coniditon but I will await to see you pics............

As cheezemonkhai has said though you should have a warranty with the repair work?

postmanpat · 09-04-2008, 14:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigal rallyred

Sounds like orange peel effect on the door.

HTH.

Or the opposite, new cars these days seem to come with free orange peel to start with, if the bodyshop as avoided this then that wuild make the repaired door appear glassy compared to the rest of the car. Polishing will have no effect and you can hardly claim against the bodyshop for failing to match orange peel

RichB86 · 09-04-2008, 14:37

this maybe a bit more severe but have you considered a full respray? this will mean all the panels will look the same colour and should fix your problems.

harrysprout · 09-04-2008, 14:38

/Users/andrewrobinson/Desktop/respray5.jpg/Users/andrewrobinson/Desktop/respray4.jpg/Users/andrewrobinson/Desktop/respray3.jpg/Users/andrewrobinson/Desktop/respray2.jpg/Users/andrewrobinson/Desktop/respray1.jpg/Users/andrewrobinson/Desktop/respray6.jpg
Baker 21
Here are my pics....

Baker21 · 09-04-2008, 14:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by harrysprout

/Users/andrewrobinson/Desktop/respray5.jpg/Users/andrewrobinson/Desktop/respray4.jpg/Users/andrewrobinson/Desktop/respray3.jpg/Users/andrewrobinson/Desktop/respray2.jpg/Users/andrewrobinson/Desktop/respray1.jpg/Users/andrewrobinson/Desktop/respray6.jpg
Baker 21
Here are my pics....

Can't see anything mate?

harrysprout · 09-04-2008, 14:40

Why cant I attach the jpg's??

**TaviaRS** · 09-04-2008, 14:55

you need to go advanced, next to where it says quick reply and then there is the option to attach photos, down the bottom.

You've just put links to photos on your hard drive.

harrysprout · 09-04-2008, 15:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaviaRS

you need to go advanced, next to where it says quick reply and then there is the option to attach photos, down the bottom.

You've just put links to photos on your hard drive.

I am trying to do that. I may still be doing summat wrong though.
I hit the Advanced button and then bring up the manage attachments box. I then choose a file on the first of five buttons above each other. I then click upload, and I get 'uploading file please wait. It goes on forever and I give up. I have tried to upload jpgs and a pdf no joy

Dr Zoidberg · 09-04-2008, 15:59

how big are the files?
Resize them to 800*600

harrysprout · 09-04-2008, 17:32

OK. lets give it a try. You wouldn't know I was a designer and send files to clients all the time

harrysprout · 09-04-2008, 17:38

another...

harrysprout · 09-04-2008, 17:50

3rd time lucky...

harrysprout · 09-04-2008, 17:54

last ones, why does this take so long? they are no more than 200kb each.

cheezemonkhai · 09-04-2008, 19:24

I can't see the problem in the picture, maybe the rear door is marginally rougher.

Since it's a new car I'd keep going back to the insurance until you are happy with it.

08-04-2008, 22:22	#1
harrysprout Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 42 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Repairs and detailing advice Right, I am really into this detailing lark now. So I have a question or maybe a couple. First off When I bought the car I crashed it driving off the forecourt. The thing had been insured for all of five mins. Needless to say I did not drive away in my new car that day. To say I was distraught is an understatement. On picking up the car after repair I noticed a difference in the paint surface to the driver and passenger door, these had been re sprayed with blending into the wing and rear quarter. It is particularly evident on the drivers door, less so on the rear passenger, the paint having a distinct glassy, wavy appearance, compared to the slightly mottled factory spray. I guessed that this is a result of slightly over zealous polishing by the sprayer. another problem has arisen here, as there seems to be a slight depression in the panel just behind the door handle, I might try the freeze spray and hairdryer technique to see if it comes out. The doors were new so there is NO filler. On a bright sunny day parked on a gravel surface it looks a dog to me, and I despair, yet at other times I can live with it. I had it checked out by two guys who are pretty picky and they said it wasn't a bad job by any means, and the depression is no worse than you see on some other brand new cars. So after that long winded story, here's the question. Will damned good detailing session even out the differences in the paint work? I appreciate it will never be quite the same, but it may help. I will get some pictures up when I have had the chance to wash it to show the paint work. This may help some of you guys determine wether the freezer spray thing would work. Thanks

08-04-2008, 23:35	#2
KR MAN Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: East of Hull Posts: 111 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Repairs and detailing advice It might be worth posting the question on the detailingworld forum with some pics and ask some of the pro detailers what they think. Depending where you live one might take a look at for you. __________________ 06 Black Magic Fabia VRS - standard til the warranty runs out. Waiting in the garage already - Jabba ARB, 312mm brakes, PD160, more to come.

09-04-2008, 08:10	#3
bigal rallyred Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central belt in Scotland Posts: 588 Thanks: 31 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Repairs and detailing advice Sounds like orange peel effect on the door. Polishing alone will not solve this and need to be sanded down with wet and dry then polished. I've been into detailing for about 6 years and I'm still not confident enough to tackle this myself. Might be worth getting either a profession bodyshop or a professional detailer to sort it for you. They could also look at the imperfection around the door handle. HTH.

09-04-2008, 08:13	#4
Baker21 OEM+ SUPERB Join Date: May 2005 Location: Northants Posts: 2,743 Thanks: 2 Thanked 69 Times in 63 Posts	Re: Repairs and detailing advice Can you give more details of the car in question? Age? Colour? Mileage? Without seeing the car it is possible that a good going over with a DA or a Rotary will bring the old panels up to scratch as these will no doubt be faded and have had some wear and tear......... __________________ Best regards, Baker21 - 'OEM+' SKODA SUPERB PD TDI 130

09-04-2008, 12:54	#5
harrysprout Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 42 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Repairs and detailing advice Hi mate I am just waiting for an opportunity to take a few photos in good light so you can cast your expert eye over it. I will upload them asap. It's beautifully sunny right now up here in Harrogate, but my wife is just going out in it, so collateral damage always looms on the horizon, esp. when she abandons it next to a battered old Datsun Sunny in the Asda car park! My car is a race blue VRS Octy 06 reg with 18K on the clock. Thanks for the pointers

09-04-2008, 13:09	#6
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 13,146 Thanks: 60 Thanked 306 Times in 282 Posts	Re: Repairs and detailing advice Why don't you just complain to the insurance? Most bodywork repairs are 3 warranted for 3 years and if they have done a crap job they should fix it. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

09-04-2008, 14:37	#9
RichB86 Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 719 Thanks: 33 Thanked 23 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Repairs and detailing advice this maybe a bit more severe but have you considered a full respray? this will mean all the panels will look the same colour and should fix your problems. __________________ Must Go Faster

09-04-2008, 14:38	#10
harrysprout Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 42 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Repairs and detailing advice /Users/andrewrobinson/Desktop/respray5.jpg/Users/andrewrobinson/Desktop/respray4.jpg/Users/andrewrobinson/Desktop/respray3.jpg/Users/andrewrobinson/Desktop/respray2.jpg/Users/andrewrobinson/Desktop/respray1.jpg/Users/andrewrobinson/Desktop/respray6.jpg Baker 21 Here are my pics....

09-04-2008, 14:40	#12
harrysprout Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 42 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Repairs and detailing advice Why cant I attach the jpg's??

09-04-2008, 14:55	#13
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,897 Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Re: Repairs and detailing advice you need to go advanced, next to where it says quick reply and then there is the option to attach photos, down the bottom. You've just put links to photos on your hard drive. __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

09-04-2008, 15:59	#15
Dr Zoidberg Decapodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: On the back of an AA truck with a failed turbo Posts: 10,175 Thanks: 15 Thanked 162 Times in 121 Posts	Re: Repairs and detailing advice how big are the files? Resize them to 800*600 __________________ Alex "I laugh in the face of danger, then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk

09-04-2008, 19:24	#20
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 13,146 Thanks: 60 Thanked 306 Times in 282 Posts	Re: Repairs and detailing advice I can't see the problem in the picture, maybe the rear door is marginally rougher. Since it's a new car I'd keep going back to the insurance until you are happy with it. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

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