Caution: Superb car jack.

fofos · 25-05-2006, 20:18

I jacked the front offside of my superb up yesterday evening to take the wheel off,when i took the wheel off i noticed the jack had buckled. So i rang the dealer this morning and explained what had happened, they asked me to take the car to the garage so that they to check it out and sure enough it buckled again after they jacked up the front end , (by the way that was the first time i have use the jack) so they got a jack out of another superb and jacked my car up again at the front end and that jack buckled. I was then told Milton Keynes have been notified and they would be working on that as we spoke with it being a safety issue.
He said it would more than likely be a recall job. Ive got the 2.5TDI V6 Elegance model

Pete

devonutopia · 25-05-2006, 20:24

Heavy front end - I expect they never tested it on such a front heavy car. Glad you've taken it to the right place and pointed it out before someone else did the same thing and came worse off that it simply buckling.

Octygone · 25-05-2006, 20:57

Used mine to put the alloys on..... so all four jacking points and no problem ...is the 1.9 pd 130 a bit lighter?

westerdam2 · 25-05-2006, 21:06

How very alarming

Do we know what year(s), or whatever, might be affected?

Mine is an 03 plate 2.8 V6 (with steel road fund licence holder).

I think I'll put the army on standby an have one of their huge chinook helicopters ready to lift the front end

fofos · 25-05-2006, 21:47

Sorry it' on a 55 plate,the jacking points are sound it is just the jack itself.

cheezemonkhai · 25-05-2006, 23:09

The 1.9pd 130 is just a tad lighter than the 2.5L V6 TDI.

Time to buy a trolly jack for home, or for the car an inflatable jack (saw them at halfords) that inflate off the 12v lighter socket.

mickyg · 26-05-2006, 11:52

I have used mine (1.9tdi) to take on/off all 4 alloy wheels with no probs.... i did however note that the jack is made from aluminium and did wonder myself about its load bearing ability, especially as you sometimes have to remove the alloys with force if they have not been off for a while or were not lightly greased on the mating faces prior to putting on. It is the same jack as used on my friends VW Golf. Wonder if they will recall them all, bit dodgy if it buckles whilst changing wheel !!!

Jon TDI · 26-05-2006, 13:23

I never use the scissor jack. It's bloody dangerous.

fofos · 26-05-2006, 16:14

Just looked at the (Technical Specifacations) and surprisingly the 2.5 V6 TDI with manual gearbox is 19 Kilos heavier than the 2.8 with the Tiptronic box which is the heaviest of the petrol models, weight dependant on level of equipment. Mine has everything bar the solar sunroof.

The 1.9pd 130 is 105 kilos lighter.

peterc10 · 29-05-2006, 16:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by fofos

The 1.9pd 130 is 105 kilos lighter.

And since pretty much all that weight will be at the front end that means another 50kg at least through the jack on each side.

Having said that I ahve jacked my 2.5 Tiptonic Elegance up at the front (puncture) and the jack appeared OK - or at least as OK as a scissor jack normally looks in that position - a bit wobbly.

Can you keep us informed of the outcomne of this please - I don't want to miss any recall.

fofos · 29-05-2006, 21:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterc10

And since pretty much all that weight will be at the front end that means another 50kg at least through the jack on each side.

Having said that I ahve jacked my 2.5 Tiptonic Elegance up at the front (puncture) and the jack appeared OK - or at least as OK as a scissor jack normally looks in that position - a bit wobbly.

Can you keep us informed of the outcomne of this please - I don't want to miss any recall.

No problem, as soon as i get any info i will put it on here.

oc-quattro · 14-06-2006, 14:37

That does seem a little dangerous, I really don't like those scissor jacks anyway.

MichaelD · 15-06-2006, 08:45

Diesels are normally much heavier than petrol engines. In something like a Mondeo the extra weight wrecks the handling, it goes from a very nicely balanced car with a petrol engine to a hopeless understeerer with a diesel. But now that there are more diesels than petrols you would think they would adjust everything to cope with the additional weight

ScoobyChris · 15-06-2006, 09:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelD

Diesels are normally much heavier than petrol engines. In something like a Mondeo the extra weight wrecks the handling, it goes from a very nicely balanced car with a petrol engine to a hopeless understeerer with a diesel.

That's an interesting comment as my mate with a V6 Mondeo was saying how much better the handling in my TDCI was.

Chris

MichaelD · 15-06-2006, 23:38

Now that sales of diesels are so high, they have probably tuned to suspension to accommodate the extra weight. But handling is really subjective, what one person likes, another will hate.

I used to hire Mondeos every week, in the petrol 4-cylinders they could do a beautifully balanced 4-wheel drift at 70-80 mph. Try that in the diesel and it just understeered and felt dull. Hire cars are just so much fun!

Mil · 19-06-2006, 14:57

I like my dealers here so much that I've notified them of what you just told us Pete, and they're going to check all the Superb jacks here right away. They only bring the 2.8V6 models here, and since it's only 19kgs lighter than the 2.5 diesel, they should check it out too.

fofos · 07-08-2006, 21:06

I called in at the dealers today and was given an update about the jack, apparently it only buckles when used on the 2.5 TDI engines.

Pete

mdk1 · 08-08-2006, 19:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by fofos

I called in at the dealers today and was given an update about the jack, apparently it only buckles when used on the 2.5 TDI engines.

Pete

Hope we don't get a puncture on the way to Czech

25-05-2006, 20:18	#1
fofos Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: cheshire Posts: 250 Thanks: 3 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Caution: Superb car jack. I jacked the front offside of my superb up yesterday evening to take the wheel off,when i took the wheel off i noticed the jack had buckled. So i rang the dealer this morning and explained what had happened, they asked me to take the car to the garage so that they to check it out and sure enough it buckled again after they jacked up the front end , (by the way that was the first time i have use the jack) so they got a jack out of another superb and jacked my car up again at the front end and that jack buckled. I was then told Milton Keynes have been notified and they would be working on that as we spoke with it being a safety issue. He said it would more than likely be a recall job. Ive got the 2.5TDI V6 Elegance model Pete

25-05-2006, 20:24	#2
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ooo-ar, Oi be from Devonshire Posts: 29,194 Thanks: 58 Thanked 288 Times in 234 Posts	Re: Caution: Superb car jack. Heavy front end - I expect they never tested it on such a front heavy car. Glad you've taken it to the right place and pointed it out before someone else did the same thing and came worse off that it simply buckling. __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

25-05-2006, 20:57	#3
Octygone Old Git Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 6,583 Thanks: 179 Thanked 103 Times in 63 Posts	Re: Caution: Superb car jack. Used mine to put the alloys on..... so all four jacking points and no problem ...is the 1.9 pd 130 a bit lighter?

25-05-2006, 21:06	#4
westerdam2 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: West Scotland Posts: 1,849 Thanks: 28 Thanked 62 Times in 62 Posts	Re: Caution: Superb car jack. How very alarming Do we know what year(s), or whatever, might be affected? Mine is an 03 plate 2.8 V6 (with steel road fund licence holder). I think I'll put the army on standby an have one of their huge chinook helicopters ready to lift the front end

25-05-2006, 21:47	#5
fofos Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: cheshire Posts: 250 Thanks: 3 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Caution: Superb car jack. Sorry it' on a 55 plate,the jacking points are sound it is just the jack itself. Last edited by fofos; 25-05-2006 at 21:49.

25-05-2006, 23:09	#6
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 13,915 Thanks: 77 Thanked 352 Times in 326 Posts	Re: Caution: Superb car jack. The 1.9pd 130 is just a tad lighter than the 2.5L V6 TDI. Time to buy a trolly jack for home, or for the car an inflatable jack (saw them at halfords) that inflate off the 12v lighter socket. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

26-05-2006, 11:52	#7
mickyg Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Caution: Superb car jack. I have used mine (1.9tdi) to take on/off all 4 alloy wheels with no probs.... i did however note that the jack is made from aluminium and did wonder myself about its load bearing ability, especially as you sometimes have to remove the alloys with force if they have not been off for a while or were not lightly greased on the mating faces prior to putting on. It is the same jack as used on my friends VW Golf. Wonder if they will recall them all, bit dodgy if it buckles whilst changing wheel !!!

26-05-2006, 13:23	#8
Jon TDI Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 3,168 Thanks: 34 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Caution: Superb car jack. I never use the scissor jack. It's bloody dangerous. __________________ Black Magic SEAT Leon 2.0 TDI Sport - Green panel thingy, Upsolute jiggery pokery, Koni FSD/Eibach Pro Kit bouncy stuff, 18" Audi A8 Parabol rims, '08 Cupra black/honeycombe grille. Also driving around in a Mini ONE that thinks it's a Cooper!

26-05-2006, 16:14	#9
fofos Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: cheshire Posts: 250 Thanks: 3 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Caution: Superb car jack. Just looked at the (Technical Specifacations) and surprisingly the 2.5 V6 TDI with manual gearbox is 19 Kilos heavier than the 2.8 with the Tiptronic box which is the heaviest of the petrol models, weight dependant on level of equipment. Mine has everything bar the solar sunroof. The 1.9pd 130 is 105 kilos lighter.

14-06-2006, 14:37	#12
oc-quattro Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: West Sussex, UK Posts: 331 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Caution: Superb car jack. That does seem a little dangerous, I really don't like those scissor jacks anyway.

15-06-2006, 08:45	#13
MichaelD Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North West UK Posts: 104 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Caution: Superb car jack. Diesels are normally much heavier than petrol engines. In something like a Mondeo the extra weight wrecks the handling, it goes from a very nicely balanced car with a petrol engine to a hopeless understeerer with a diesel. But now that there are more diesels than petrols you would think they would adjust everything to cope with the additional weight

15-06-2006, 23:38	#15
MichaelD Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North West UK Posts: 104 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Caution: Superb car jack. Now that sales of diesels are so high, they have probably tuned to suspension to accommodate the extra weight. But handling is really subjective, what one person likes, another will hate. I used to hire Mondeos every week, in the petrol 4-cylinders they could do a beautifully balanced 4-wheel drift at 70-80 mph. Try that in the diesel and it just understeered and felt dull. Hire cars are just so much fun!

19-06-2006, 14:57	#16
Mil Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: United Arab Emirates Posts: 3,801 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Caution: Superb car jack. I like my dealers here so much that I've notified them of what you just told us Pete, and they're going to check all the Superb jacks here right away. They only bring the 2.8V6 models here, and since it's only 19kgs lighter than the 2.5 diesel, they should check it out too. __________________ Milton Kyvernitis Private Government Last edited by Mil; 19-06-2006 at 15:05.

07-08-2006, 21:06	#17
fofos Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: cheshire Posts: 250 Thanks: 3 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Caution: Superb car jack. I called in at the dealers today and was given an update about the jack, apparently it only buckles when used on the 2.5 TDI engines. Pete

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