I need a lowering specialist local to me?

jet · 20-12-2004, 01:54

Hi,

I'm new here, please be kind to me!!

I need to find a local company that can lower my car professionally. I have just purchased a V6 Diesel Superb (04). I want the car lowered with new wheels but need to know the exact size wheels I can fit in the arches & how safely I can lower the car and what springs they suggest?

I live in Worthing West Sussex.

I hope someone can point me in the right direction?

John

morgan · 10-01-2005, 20:14

John
I've been thinking about this for some time , a couple of things to consider- if you fit bigger wheels the car will be higher off of the ground whihc will **** up the geometry and may do something strange to the handling - an unknown quantity, if you then change the springs and dampers to lower it back down again it may move the suspension again with the same results also we could end up with the ride height being back where it started but with the roll centres in different places. the other concern I have is that the Superb is softly sprung - it is a very long car I wonder if the Skoda guys ended up with it this way to ensure that the body didn't get to stressed which is what we could end up with, basically what we need is a great deal more information from someone like Eibach / Koni who should have dealt with all this stuff already, what would be to me the worst case wouyld be to spend a load of money and end up with a bad handling , stiffly sprung car whch would not be a step forward. I think finding a company at all will be a challenge never mind a local one. I spoke to AMD but even they couldnt answer all these questions. Hope this helps, Im sure it can be done but its probably easy to get a package thats nearly there but difficult to get it spot on.

morgan

PetRaN · 13-01-2005, 08:07

jet
I have 18'' wheels and bilstein sprint / eibach suspension

regarding handling, its like comparing day to night. stock suspension is way too soft
when i had them installed, it felt like the car had grown 20cm wider.

if you travel in bad roads though, expect a small change in comfort

if I put suspension now, I'd certainly go for KW3

**TaviaRS** · 13-01-2005, 09:10

I'd agree, go for the KW V3 suspension. For setup, try Powerstation in Cheltenham.

Stuart_J · 13-01-2005, 09:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaviaRS

I'd agree, go for the KW V3 suspension. For setup, try Powerstation in Cheltenham.

I also would recomend Powerstation

ScoobyChris · 13-01-2005, 09:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart_J

I also would recomend Powerstation

Me too!

morgan · 13-01-2005, 20:01

just looked on the kw web site - thye list the A6 and Passat but not Superb ( or any skoda am I looking in the right place??

seems like the dampers are certainly up to the job fancy tinkering with the bump and rebound - just like on my racecar!

Lummox · 13-01-2005, 23:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by morgan

f you fit bigger wheels the car will be higher off of the ground

Not if you do it correctly, by using a lower profile tyre which keeps the rolling radius the same the vehcile height is not altered.

boyced · 14-01-2005, 08:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by morgan

just looked on the kw web site - thye list the A6 and Passat but not Superb ( or any skoda am I looking in the right place??

would the Passat ones not be the same as they are essentially the same car.

**TaviaRS** · 14-01-2005, 08:45

KW for Superb

To order some, talk to Mike at Impossible Performance or Jabbasport. Get them through Jabba and get a remap done at the same time

morgan · 14-01-2005, 09:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross Clarke

Not if you do it correctly, by using a lower profile tyre which keeps the rolling radius the same the vehcile height is not altered.

Ross, I know what you mean but the Superb is already on 225/45 so there isn't far you can go is there. From memory thats why the 205/50 and the 225/45 work out the same when I had my RS.

I will have to have a look at the diffences closley between the Passat Audi and Skoda and see how the chassis differs I know the Superb is longer but not sure about the weight , ride height etc, most Passats seem to be fitted with 16" wheels as well.

**TaviaRS** · 14-01-2005, 09:12

Erm, was the link I posted to the KW suspension for the Superb no good then?

Re the tyres, what has it got on now? What wheel and tyre size?

morgan · 14-01-2005, 09:23

Sorry, yes the link was good just been looking now,
Currently 225/45/ 17 inch ( Toyo Proxies)

To be fair I probably wouldn't change the wheels as they seem reasonable compromise. I think the KW may be the way forward if you can adjust the height if it isn 't ideal more tunability . Does Jabba do a switchable remap for the 130 diesel yet?

morgan · 14-01-2005, 09:30

Just had another look - the part number for the Superb is different from the VW / Audi which are the same part no.

Stuart_J · 14-01-2005, 10:03

TSR have a heavily modded "stealth" Passat, might be worth having a chat with them also if as others have said the Superb is based on a Passat floor pan

atsu · 14-01-2005, 13:57

Has anyone tried the Eibach springs/damper combination?

jet · 14-01-2005, 17:46

Hi Guys,

Sorry for delay in getting back to you, I've been away on holiday. Many thanks for the advice this has helped me a lot

John

PetRaN · 15-01-2005, 10:14

if you install kw3's then your nickname will accurately reflect your car...
my 2p

morgan · 24-01-2005, 19:40

Anyone know who manufacturers anti roll bars ? to go with the new KW's I might want?

morgan

20-12-2004, 01:54	#1
jet Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I need a lowering specialist local to me? Hi, I'm new here, please be kind to me!! I need to find a local company that can lower my car professionally. I have just purchased a V6 Diesel Superb (04). I want the car lowered with new wheels but need to know the exact size wheels I can fit in the arches & how safely I can lower the car and what springs they suggest? I live in Worthing West Sussex. I hope someone can point me in the right direction? John

10-01-2005, 20:14	#2
morgan Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: motorsport valley Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	John I've been thinking about this for some time , a couple of things to consider- if you fit bigger wheels the car will be higher off of the ground whihc will **** up the geometry and may do something strange to the handling - an unknown quantity, if you then change the springs and dampers to lower it back down again it may move the suspension again with the same results also we could end up with the ride height being back where it started but with the roll centres in different places. the other concern I have is that the Superb is softly sprung - it is a very long car I wonder if the Skoda guys ended up with it this way to ensure that the body didn't get to stressed which is what we could end up with, basically what we need is a great deal more information from someone like Eibach / Koni who should have dealt with all this stuff already, what would be to me the worst case wouyld be to spend a load of money and end up with a bad handling , stiffly sprung car whch would not be a step forward. I think finding a company at all will be a challenge never mind a local one. I spoke to AMD but even they couldnt answer all these questions. Hope this helps, Im sure it can be done but its probably easy to get a package thats nearly there but difficult to get it spot on. morgan __________________ Superb Elegance 1.9TDi Full Leather, Sat-Nav, Xenons, Yes it does do 50mpg, no it doesn't go round corners, yes it's got more leg room than a Maybach.

13-01-2005, 08:07	#3
PetRaN Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	jet I have 18'' wheels and bilstein sprint / eibach suspension regarding handling, its like comparing day to night. stock suspension is way too soft when i had them installed, it felt like the car had grown 20cm wider. if you travel in bad roads though, expect a small change in comfort if I put suspension now, I'd certainly go for KW3 __________________

13-01-2005, 09:10	#4
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,931 Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	I'd agree, go for the KW V3 suspension. For setup, try Powerstation in Cheltenham. __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

13-01-2005, 20:01	#7
morgan Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: motorsport valley Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	just looked on the kw web site - thye list the A6 and Passat but not Superb ( or any skoda am I looking in the right place?? seems like the dampers are certainly up to the job fancy tinkering with the bump and rebound - just like on my racecar! __________________ Superb Elegance 1.9TDi Full Leather, Sat-Nav, Xenons, Yes it does do 50mpg, no it doesn't go round corners, yes it's got more leg room than a Maybach.

14-01-2005, 08:45	#10
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,931 Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	KW for Superb To order some, talk to Mike at Impossible Performance or Jabbasport. Get them through Jabba and get a remap done at the same time __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

14-01-2005, 09:12	#12
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,931 Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Erm, was the link I posted to the KW suspension for the Superb no good then? Re the tyres, what has it got on now? What wheel and tyre size? __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

14-01-2005, 09:23	#13
morgan Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: motorsport valley Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sorry, yes the link was good just been looking now, Currently 225/45/ 17 inch ( Toyo Proxies) To be fair I probably wouldn't change the wheels as they seem reasonable compromise. I think the KW may be the way forward if you can adjust the height if it isn 't ideal more tunability . Does Jabba do a switchable remap for the 130 diesel yet? __________________ Superb Elegance 1.9TDi Full Leather, Sat-Nav, Xenons, Yes it does do 50mpg, no it doesn't go round corners, yes it's got more leg room than a Maybach.

14-01-2005, 09:30	#14
morgan Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: motorsport valley Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just had another look - the part number for the Superb is different from the VW / Audi which are the same part no. __________________ Superb Elegance 1.9TDi Full Leather, Sat-Nav, Xenons, Yes it does do 50mpg, no it doesn't go round corners, yes it's got more leg room than a Maybach.

14-01-2005, 10:03	#15
Stuart_J Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Winchester Posts: 5,605 Thanks: 38 Thanked 81 Times in 74 Posts	TSR have a heavily modded "stealth" Passat, might be worth having a chat with them also if as others have said the Superb is based on a Passat floor pan __________________ Speed is an addiction for which thankfully there is no cure

14-01-2005, 13:57	#16
atsu Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: London England Posts: 93 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Has anyone tried the Eibach springs/damper combination?

14-01-2005, 17:46	#17
jet Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Guys, Sorry for delay in getting back to you, I've been away on holiday. Many thanks for the advice this has helped me a lot John

15-01-2005, 10:14	#18
PetRaN Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	if you install kw3's then your nickname will accurately reflect your car... my 2p __________________

24-01-2005, 19:40	#19
morgan Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: motorsport valley Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Anyone know who manufacturers anti roll bars ? to go with the new KW's I might want? morgan __________________ Superb Elegance 1.9TDi Full Leather, Sat-Nav, Xenons, Yes it does do 50mpg, no it doesn't go round corners, yes it's got more leg room than a Maybach.

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