This is a discussion on How to increase your DIESEL tank capacity within the Technical Guides forums, part of the Skoda Model Discussion Area category; At the request of another member, I have been asked to post up this "how to" guide. I have done ...
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| Volkskodian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Edinburgh - "Bonnie Scotland"
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| At the request of another member, I have been asked to post up this "how to" guide. I have done this mod on both my Golf Tdi & my wifes Fabia Tdi, it takes about fifteen minutes to do and it has given us both extra tank capacity, quicker filling and caused absolutely no problems whatsoever. This is a short guide on how to add about five litres or so extra capacity to your diesel tank and should only be attempted on DIESEL engined vehicles & definitely NOT on petrol engined vehicles. It is known as the "ventectomy" mod, very common in the U.S.A. and a quick search of this site will cover all the arguments for and against carrying it out. For those that wish to try it, the procedure is simple and is as follows: 1. Open fuel filler door. 2. Remove Torx screw. 3. Unscrew fuel cap. 4. Remove fuel flap door and inner trim by carefully pulling out at screw hole and moving the whole item (door, seal & drain pipe) towards the rear of the car the whole assembly should come out. 5. The plastic drain hose can be pulled out with the assembly. 6. On the right of the fuel filler neck you will see a black plastic bit protruding out about one inch (on the left on a Golf) The valve you wish to remove is inside this bit & white in colour. Using flat screwdriver it's possible to remove the valve by pushing the white tab in and at the same time levering the valve outwards. This is done via the slot where the valve can be seen in the black plastic outer. It should be levered out away from the filler neck while pusing inwards on the white tab. It helps to push on vent "button" from inside filler neck as well. 7. Remove white valve assembly THIS IS IMPORTANT remove the valve, spring & retainer from inside the white valve assembly and REFIT the white assembly minus the valve etc to the car. 8 Refit the filler door & seal, and secure with torx screw. Enjoy extra tank capacity & vent free filling ! Pictures of this job being done on a Mk4 Golf (virtually the same) at this link: Removal of the Fuel vent in an A4 Golf/Jetta
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| great guide!
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| Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2007
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| On my fabias I used to refill whilst pushing the black nozzle down which gave extra capacity, however my octavia vrs tdi does not seem to have any vent system and I get about the same amount in as the fabia despite the capacity being listed as 10litres more.Any ideas with the octavia? |
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| Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire
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| Will this effect the automatic pump cut off when the tank is full?? If not then I think I'll give it a go! |
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As per Basil I've had both vehicles (Golf & Fabia) modded like this for quite a while now and done a couple of friends vehicles with no problems.
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| Ah ah ah . . no Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Macclesfield, Cheshire
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| I am a little dubious about this mod . . . is there any chance of fuel coming out if you go around a sharp left hand corner soon after filling up? Reason for me asking is diesel on the road, unlike petrol, won't evaporate readily and seeing as it would probably (if) spill on a corner, would mean other vehicles negotiating that bend would have a nice slippery diesel patch to contend with. Not trying to put a damp teatowel on anything, I used to brim fill my fabia, but this thought occured to me a while ago and I thought I should mention it in the light of this thread. ![]()
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| Why I oughta... Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leighton Buzzard
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| I'd hope the filler cap does provide some sort of seal?
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| Volkskodian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Edinburgh - "Bonnie Scotland"
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No sign of this happening at all, being a motorcyclist were this to be the case I would never condone this mod ! Hope that helps.
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| Hiya Vic!!! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sheffield, South Yorkshire
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| This is something i'm toying with myself rather than standing there holding the spring loaded switch with the fuel dispenser etc..... Isn't the filler flap release cable going to need to be detached / re-attached at some point during this as i can't see any mention of it in the guide and i was under the impression it was a git to fit if ever it came off anyway. Cheers Dave.
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| Hiya Vic!!! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sheffield, South Yorkshire
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Nice one..... Might have a go this next week or two. Cheers Dave.
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| Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire
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| I've done this mod today, thanks for the guide!! I've taken a few extra pics, and will make a Passat specific guide on UK Passats. I will refer back to this guide and credit you Td-eye! ![]() |
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| UK Passats :: ukpassats.co.uk :: View topic - Increase your diesel tank capacity - ventectomy. Thanks again for the guide td-eye |
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| Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: North West
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| i just push the little bit down with the end of the fuel pump and it fill the extra bit up as well that way dont need to take car apart |
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| Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: belfast
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| take it your talkin bout wee black button type thing 2" down on left of filler m8???
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| Quote: I couldn't agree more with the sentiments in that link, I am a motorcyclist, BMF Member & VJMC member. What I fail to understand though is why you attach it to this thread about the "ventectomy mod" ? If you are somehow trying to insinuate that by doing this mod you will some how spill diesel on the road, please try and fully understand what the modification entails. The expansion tank and vent valve (modified or unmodified) is part of sealed system and vents back into the tank under the fuel filler cap & in NO WAY will cause any diesel spills. Please clarify why you are posting this ? I would NEVER condone ANY diesel spillage.
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| The modification is to increase your tank capacity is it not? Where exactly is this extra capacity coming from? Is it gained by filling the expansion tank with fuel? Is it relying on the filler cap to stop spillages? If the tank is full, and the expansion tank is full, where will the fuel go on a hot day? The sentiments in the poster are: - Don't overfill your tank - Do leave room for the expansion of diesel in your tank Are you not doing the opposite? Last edited by Paul_H; 30-01-2008 at 21:34. Reason: correct spelling |
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| Diesel expansion is negligible, in the case of the fuel tank and temperatures its as good as non existant. |
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| This news release by the RAC Foundation highlights the dangers of overfilling the fuel tank with diesel. If the tank is brimmed, and the fuel filler cap is then inadvertently left off, there is an increased risk of diesel spillage. As with any mods, I believe that insurance companies would expect this one to be declared. RAC Foundation - KILL SPILLS 2006: FILL IT, DON'T SPILL IT SAYS RAC FOUNDATION
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